Something I found that helps with my pain

I honestly don't understand why ppl get so angry when someone comes here trying to sell something.  They get all riled up...saying things like "I come here to get advice, not to get upset".   As far as I'm concerned they get themselves upset by responding to something that upsets them.  We all know that this board is not moderated, so if you're not interested, ignore the post and go on to something that interests you.  It's really very simple.  And as we all can see, some people are interested in this product.  So why not let everyone judge for themselves.  You're either interested or you're not.

Originally posted by kelstev I honestly don't understand why ppl get so angry when someone comes here trying to sell something.  They get all riled up...saying things like "I come here to get advice, not to get upset".   As far as I'm concerned they get themselves upset by responding to something that upsets them.  We all know that this board is not moderated, so if you're not interested, ignore the post and go on to something that interests you.  It's really very simple.  And as we all can see, some people are interested in this product.  So why not let everyone judge for themselves.  You're either interested or you're not.

WTK Kelstev! What you posted makes sense to me. People around here get riled up so easy. They do upset themselves.  

The group of you that complain made your own forum at Sushi so you could be moderated. You knew it is not moderated here.
 

Guy, you're selling it therefore it's spam.  If you want people to know of the product and how well it works, link it to somewhere in wallgreens or walmart online or something.  Then  we know you aren't a spammer, otherwise if it looks like a chicken and clucks like a chicken then it must be a chicken.

The reaspon people get upset is many of us have horrible RA cases and would wish for the right cure and when people like this come around stating they have it so you need to "buy" it from "them" many will do that.

My first year of RA i spent so much money on qwack things that I have hated these posters ever since.  They took my money and now i don't want them to take other peoples money.

Giving advice is ok, but don't sell the product and leave.  It's just wrong.  Too many people don't know better as to not buy every "cure" that comes along, many can't get meds to work and are desperate and they don't know that these things will not work if they have a bad case of RA.

They are mini versions of the insurance guys that get old ladies to dish out thousands of dollars only to skip town.

I wish people stood up back when i was tricked into these sales persons, I would have saved hundreds of dollars.

It just upsets me that most of these people really never had RA, they just want to make a buck.  It doesn't matter that the product works or not, what upsets me is the "i have it" when they don't, or the "my mom has it" or my favorite "grandma has it and is now cured".  You see it 500 times and it is upsetting.

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bubbagump:

I am the co-inventor of the product that has cause such a stir. However, I did not author the original message to this string. I was alerted - via a webwide search worm program we use - that our company name had been used in a Yahoo forum. I popped in, saw the situation and threw in my 2c worth. (please see my previous post)

I totally empathise with you. I started a cervical cancer group several years ago (had written a book about it). We had several hundred members and helped lots of people; however, the group started to get spammed (BIGTIME). To stay ahead of the problem would require a full time group monitor. Long story short: Everyone got disgusted with the spam and it destroyed the group. Long story short / no one posts any more and the group is dead.

So I get it, bubbagump. It is a bad situation.

Please allow me to proffer a response to your well-made points:

First, we are offering to give 5 members one of our Heating Pouches at no cost / no shipping charges, so that they can test them and make a totally unbiased report to your group. I do not know how one could be more forthright - in that there is always the possibility that one or more of those who receive our product could have some sort of problem with it and make a bad report. (i.e. they may attempt to use it w/o reading the Instruction booklet and ???)

Your concern with regard to those who try to represent themselves as having RA, but do not, is understandable. I had that problem with 'hired lurkers' in our group. It is a BIG problem.

Nonetheless, in this case, I will tell you that the person who posted the original message (call him "Ron") was actually a customer of ours a few months ago. He contacted us recently and said he liked the Heating Pouch so much that he wanted to become a reseller. He was putting together a website where his intention is to sell only products that had helped him with his problems with RA. (He is living on disability.) He purchased a fairly large inventory.

He doesn't know that I posted to the group and, because he was so bothered by the attacks on him, I doubt that he will ever return - on his own. But hopefully, we can salvage this situation. If so, I plan to tell him what happened and ... who knows ... maybe some of you guys will purchase a few units from him later.

By the way, we have only shipped 3 units to the members and we promised 5. So if you want one of the 2, please let us know asap.

Best regards.

William Lewis

310.926.5978

will@jointheat.com

What a bunch of sneaky-snakes they are. First comes that low life eaglepi. He found the product and decided to become a sales rep. He spams his stuff on this forum knowing that it is spam. The other low lifes that you see when you open this forum posted to the left selling miracle cures have paid for the right to advertise. Not these sneaky-snakes. So some of the members to this group give eagle some flak for spamming. Boo hoo hoo we hurt his spamming feelings. Then comes along his boss and lets us know that we hurt eagles feelings and slick willie had to explain the mistakes eagle made and come to eagles defense letting us know that eagle doesn't know that slick willie is writing. Of course rather than apologizing for the spam, slick willie offers to by off 5 members with a free product. The sneaky-snakes continue their free advertisement and sales on this forum.

Okay there are members that see no problem with spammers. If you want to allow spammers there should be a new message board and allow all spammers, not just some very slick sneaky-snakes.

Now it's time to alert the authorities to slick willie and his product and practices. Better call your lawyers willie.

To those of you that know nothing about slick willie and his co-horts, you need to think twice before giving them any of your information.