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I know lately that Moana and some others on the board have been having issues with family members who have anxiety  so I have posted below my story about my journey with panic disorder. Included in that account are three techniques marked in red which I used to control and manage this and they worked very successfully.

I thought I would put it up as a post so that anyone could access the information if it was useful to them.

I decided to put in the full story not just the techniques as I do show how I applied them myself at a practical level so I thought that may be helpful for people to see that.

Hope it helps in some way.

Managing panic/anxiety

My process is probably quite sophisticated but considering who I am, that is not surprising, lol. And I suppose it evolved over a period of time as I became more aware of this disorder and what happens to me within it.

But first, let’s go back…as I think you may find the past interesting as it is, of course, part of now. And let’s bring in the RA too because the two are intricately entwined.

My old GP who found the RA told me that my panic disorder etc had been triggered initially by the inflammation mucking up my brain chemicals. I believe he is right.

I also believe I had Juvenile RA and it was never diagnosed. That means from early on I had more inflammation in my body than normal. This manifested in hospital stays at 4, 6 and 8 where my neck fell on my shoulder and I was in pain, no cause was found or disease diagnosed but hey, it was as early as 1972 and how much did they really know about Jv RA back then. Basically though, it was kept at bay until 13 with lots of ballet I did on a regular basis.

My first memories or anxiety or panic were under 4. The chaos of the household with my anxious, fearful grandmother, my dying grandfather and my mother being their carer, this was definitely environmentally based. More memories of panic throughout my childhood but from 4 to 12, it was minimal. I felt safe. I was loved. My childhood world was safe and secure.

Then I remember at puberty 11, 12, 13, 14 the panic being around again. Again change was a trigger…puberty, high school. I remember Mum and Dad always trying to push me in these moments to be more social. This did not help but they had no idea what it was or what to do back then.

And at this time I gave up ballet as I was attending a high school which required me to travel and I couldn’t make my classes in time. The RA also entered a degenerative phase as my body changed and the exercise stopped.

My whole teenage world was panic-stricken. During this time, I did not do any of my extraverted activities I had in childhood – theatre, singing, dancing, socialising. Three different high schools didn’t help either. Nor did the spinal operation at sixteen where I was told I would be paraplegic, again I believe that was RA connected. Then I dropped out of school, couldn’t get a job, their was much family pressure, Dad had had cancer and was retiring and his own depression and anxiety was triggered bigtime. The family moved a long way from my childhood home. All connections lost. All threw this the anxiety/panic/depression continued and I didn’t know what it was, didn’t know what to do with it. I just lived with feeling scared all the time and depressed. Any new situation increased the panic. I never felt safe or that I belonged anywhere.

Again in my twenties, I believe the RA degenerated again…and the panic increased because by now it had become normal.

Then again another phase about thirty when the final and worst phase of RA degenerating began until I ended up being diagnosed two years ago. By now the panic is my normal functioning mode, I know there is something wrong but I don’t know what. Neve’s birth I believe triggered off the worst of the RA and panic until diagnosis. Her birth was so traumatic. More trauma and stress from the marriage deteriorating.

So there started to believe I had Post natal depression, of course. This is when my past GP started watching me weekly and I was getting worse and worse in all ways. He tried 5 anti depressants, none of them worked and I was getting worse. Then he came up with the high inflammation rates were uncovered and I started the journey of a few months towards diagnosis. Of course, most people without panic disorder would panic when things happen to their body like they can’t hold a knife and fork, they get in the car to drive at night and can’t see a thing, they wake up and can’t move, they can’t speak properly, they can’t hold anything, they literally feel like they are going to die but me with still undiagnosed panic disorder…well, it was a nightmare.

Then, Scott my doc, tried another anti depressant called Paxtine. He had to try another, I was a mess. Now with the Paxtine script for some reason, the chemist printed out for me a couple of sheets for me on this drug. Well, that was the breakthrough because Paxtine was particularly designed for panic disorder and this information told me all about it. I was so excited to know what this ‘thing’ was. I also got excited because the medication actually worked. I responded to it. I went back to Scott and said, “This is what I have!” He agreed that I was spot on and it made perfect sense. At that point, my life began to change and has changed so much in the last few years that I am now where I am now which is a damn good place in general.

I suppose once the medication started to help, I started to be able to think clearly again and could see how I could control it more. Before the Paxtine, I was simply lost in the fog and couldn’t even see ways through. And although this was an extremely stressful time environmentally, I was starting to see my way through.

Now up until now for quite a while I would wake up each morning with a panic attack and that deep breathe suck in people do when they wake from a nightmare. That was normal every morning for so long. Panic ruled my every waking moment, I hid it well to a lot of people but it was there always.

With the help of the tablets, I started to take control of small moments, one at a time. My laundry was downstairs at the time and I was too scared to go down there. Not rational no, but very real to someone with this disorder.

In taking control of these small moments, I used three basic techniques. One was I emersed myself in Buddhist philosophy and meditation practice. Breathe meditation and mantras became regular parts of my life. The other thing was cognitive based therapy techniques which I had previously learnt. Something like this is all you need:

Sit up straight and breathe slowly and deeply, allowing your belly to swell with each inhalation. Smile as you breathe. Think or softly say the words following to yourself in time with your slow, deep breaths.
1) Breathing in, I calm body and mind.
2) Breathing out, I smile.
3) Breathing in, I notice this moment.
4) Breathing out, I enjoy this moment.

Repeat the four steps for a minute or so. Acknowledge any "pop-up thoughts," then gracefully let them go.

So with the washing moment, I used breathing to go downstairs and put one load of wash on. I also used cognitive therapy and changed my self talk. My voice was saying, I can’t do this. This is scary. Instead I would say, you can do this, there is no danger, it will be okay. This was just panic and not real, not the truth. The truth was I was completely safe putting washing on.

The same for the morning wake up air gulp, breathing and reminding myself that I was really safe and in my room and this was just a panic attack and I could breathe through it.

One of the most challenging ones was waking up with the air gulp thing and not getting a handle on it and then I would panic about the next thing which was getting Neve to daycare. My brain would say, you can’t do it. You will never be ready in time. She will be late. Again I had to slow myself down, breath and remind myself that I was perfectly capable of getting my child to daycare on time.

Another technique I used a lot back then was slowing myself down. Panic disorder shoots your adrenalin up and makes you want to go fast but if you choose to do the opposite, go slow, it counters it. Slow breathing, slow moving, slow thinking.

I would merely concentrate on the next indicated thing…make a cuppa, have a smoke, make her lunch, give her breakfast, dress her, pack her bag. I broke it down into small pieces all the time, everything I did, talking to myself as I went, focusing only on the next thing. I did this for months with everything until I gained control. This process is cognitive therapy, you can literally talk yourself through anything if you decide to and for someone with PD or anxiety this keeps them in the moment, only managing what can fit in that second, minute. Their self talk is usually telling them they can’t cope and/or manage and it is rushing ahead to prepare them for all the things they won’t be able to cope with in the next hour. No wonder they feel overwhelmed.

And then after about a year all those small moments of management became big ones and I was no longer panicking. Non panic was now my natural state, calm and peace and relaxed were now what I lived with it.

But this is an insidious disorder. It hides, it sneaks, it camouflages itself in little parts of your life. So you may feel fine but there is one tiny part of you that the PD is controlling, that is what you have to what because it spreads and you aren’t aware of it as panic. It may mask itself in worry, or insomnia or fear and many others so you cannot recognise it because it really does seem like the presenting problem is the issue. Underneath however, the panic is taking control small cell by small cell and you think it is something else until you hit a wall with a full blown panic attack and wonder how the hell that happened. Lol.

This is why having people around you who love you and who understand what it is and can call you on it in a direct but loving way is so important.

All I can feel is this yucky feeling in my chest, that is it’s current disguise, so as the person experiencing it, you cannot see.

I am getting better at recognising when it is happening, but sometimes I just cannot see it as someone outside me can. I need their loving directness to pull me into immediacy and unmask it. I hope this makes sense.

Awareness is the key to solving the issue. Once you are aware of what is happening to you, you have some hope of being able to manage it, until then you are awash on a murky sea in the midst of a storm.





Dear Cordelia, thank you so much for taking the time to post this and share your experience. I have been a mental health therapist, trained in cognitive behavioral therapy for many years and have never seen anything expressed so eloquently. With your permission, I would like to print this out and share it with a few of my clients. You really summed up the cbt process and made it easy to understand and easy to relate to. I am proud of you!!! Love, JuliahThanks Julia, glad it can be of assistance to anyone, yes, please feel free to print it out and use it. 

Thank you, Cordy, for these tecniques, expressed so well!

When I was younger, I had panic attacks regularly. I was afraid to let anyone know, as I considered myself the "strong one" who had to make sure everyone else got through whatever was happening at the moment.

Your explanation of these coping exercises is excellent. I wish I had known you and read this in the years that were so difficult, because of panic disorder. Of course, this was quite a long time ago, when the term "panic disorder" was not part of the language. At least, it wasn't well known. Doctors just threw valium at us and pronounced it to be "nerves". Thankfully, we've come a long way in understanding this particular disorder.

Thanks again, for taking the time to write this out for us.

Hugs, Nini

Thanks for sharing Cordelia,

I have struggled with anxiety, caused both by my son's illness and my own.  To cope, I have used techniques similar to what you described.  Every day in the early evening I light a candle, put on some soft music, do about 30 mins of yoga and end with a short period of meditation.  It really does help.  Your description of the breathing technique reminded my of a poem by Thick Nhat Hanh.

Breathing

Breathing in, I see myself as a flower.

I am the freshness

Of a dewdrop.

Breathing out,

My eyes have become flowers.

Please look at me.

I am looking

With the eyes of love.

 

Breathing in,

I am a mountain,

Imperturbable

Still,

Alive,

Vigorous.

Breathing out,

I feel solid.

The waves of emotion

Can never carry me away.

 

Breathing in,

I am still water.

I reflect the sky

Faithfully.

Look, I have a full moon

Within my heart,

The refreshing moon of the bokhisattva.

Breathing out,

I offer the perfect reflection

Of my mirror mind.

 

Breathing in,

I have become space

Without boundaries.

I have no plans left.

I have no luggage.

Breathing out,

I am the moon,

That is sailing through the sky of utmost emptiness.

I am freedom.

 

Thich Nhat Hanh is just fabulous. He is a consummate teacher of meditation and simplicity. 

I really think that these techniques are the only way to get through anxiety and overwhelming chronic illness.
Thankyou Cordy for sharing. My sister has a major problem with anxiety and has just been diagnosed with the same RA that I have, and what took my Mom's life 2yrs ago. I know that this will help her as she always feels so alone having to deal with this daily. Thank you lovely! Sometimes it means more than anything just to know that you're not alone. Ya know?

 

 What an inspiration you are Cordy

 

I suffer from the anxiety and depression also. The breathing is the only thing that has really helped. Ilike you, I believe I have had this since I was nine, and was just diagnosed last year.


Glad it will be useful, everyone. Those techniques are simple but do work if one keeps using them. Especially the cognitive therapy technique of talking yourself through the next moment and then the next is extremely powerful.  Thanks Cordy.  I will get my daughter to read this thread, she 'knows' a lot of it, she just needs to put it into practice.Yep, so many young people are dealing with this stuff and also older people...my 81 year old father suffers from severe anxiety. It is becoming an epidemic we don't really talk about which is one of the reasons I wanted to bring it up. There is still much shame associated with anxiety/panic and depression.

Hope something here helps your daughter, Pam.

Thanks cordelia,

Our daughter is suffering anxiety I believe because of her illness (and not knowing what it is!).  She has started to panic at school when she feels sick and this of course makes her much worse.

We are trying these techniques - the slow deep breaths - positive thoughts and now, thinking about one thing at a time.

Interesting to see that this appears to be quite common among people with chronic illness.  My daughter and I are learning as we go and it does make us both feel better to know others have similar experiences and ways of getting through it.

I suppose its good to know anxiety is a 'normal' part of illness.

Thanx

It's interesting to see how young some of us were when we started having attacks.... 9, 11, and 7 I've seen so far. I wonder why????? Doesn't that seem young to anyone else???

Very young and so cruel!!!

From what I can gather no one knows much about it at all - even the experts don't know why....

hopefully one day they will know why and prevent other people from suffering.

I never knew how much doctors didn't know until we started this roller coaster!

Mystery, I do believe that RA and panic/anxiety are very closely connected as is depression also.

Katie it is young, I just think it is the way society has moved. Everything is done and lived at a frantic pace because that's how we are 'supposed' to do it but are we? It seems to have awful effects on people living at that pace.
I don't know Cordy. I've been thinking a lot about it lately, and I'm wondering if my parent's lifestyle is what caused mine at such a young age. We moved every 2 years, almost like clockwork. I've lived in 15 houses, been to 9 schools, lived in 5 states and 2 countries. And that was all before the age of 15. Perhaps the instability was what triggered me? It's really the only thing I can think of, because other than that my family is pretty laid back and I just can't see where anxiety would fit in.

Except that my mom's side of the family is riddled with it as well. My mom, my aunt, my cousin, my grandmother they all get attacks. Theirs aren't nearly as bad as mine are though and none of them have ever even needed medication. They also did not have attacks during childhood.

What do you suppose caused yours at such a young age??

Funny you mention this - maddis started to get bad when we moved to a tiny flat at our new business - we only stayed there for 6 weeks - and she started school at the same time!

I know for sure, stress at times definitely does bring on her 'bouts'  and can make a bout much worse than it already is.

interesting...

I don't know, Katie, I think many things contribute to it. All the change you had could have triggered it in you especially since their is a family history, you had the trigger already in you.

I definitely see a connection between chronic illness and anxiety, particularly with young people as I think they can be frightened about what is happening to their bodies.

But also I was told the inflammation involved with RA can disturb the ceratonin (sp?) and adrenalin in the brain triggering off anxiety.

And I also think we can be young as kid's grow up much more quickly than did our parents, dealing with much more early on and I think it is too much for them

Cordy, your post means so much to me. I need to ingrain this into my head. I've had bouts of depression over the years, swallowed a bottle of asperin at 14 (didn't even make me sick~someone was watching over me) but the last 7 years the anxiety along with major depression has at times brought me to my knees. Thank you for expressing this in a way that sounds so simple, something I can easily incorporate into my daily life. Thank you for being here.

Alan, the poem is lovely. I'm going to memorize it. Thank you always, for the beautiful poems you share with us.

Thanks, Miles, I am glad it was helpful to you, love. This is such a difficult secondary thing we deal with...RA and then anxiety/depression. It makes the road a tough one.

It was my hope to express it as simply as possible and I have kept the techniques simple for myself because that is all you can deal with when you are at a place where you need to use them.

I think any woman who has raised five sons is a an amazing woman, Miles. Wow, what a football team! I have one bouncy girl and she exhausts me.

Take care.


Cordy that makes a lot of sense. My RD was talking to me about the reason she likes to use ADs as mild pain control. She was saying that people like me, who have had RA for so long, our brains "forget" how to not feel pain. Things like ADs help balance that out. So it's sometimes not that we're in pain (like the mild aches and pinches etc etc) it's just that our poor brain is so burnt out, it can't feel good anymore. Does that make sense? So I wonder if that could be sort of the same idea for other areas of our brain? I think it could be, Katie. It is certainly interesting how many RAers have depression and anxiety.

Change also has a big impact on this issue.

I also find this fascinating having struggled through my own journey on this. I like to think about it and work out the why's and wherefore's.

If you moved that much as a kid and you had RA, those are too big stressors that made you different from other kid's...even with your family being laid back, that is a lot for a kid to cope with.
Sure, and then you add all the additional stresses of being a nerd that didn't always fit in at school, being an only child (therefor not having ANYONE to play with for a lot of the time) etc etc etc and really those are just normal childhood stresses, but I guess those added to the unusual stresses could really account for something.

As far as my brain being "burnt out" on pain, I can TOTALLY see that. When I look back on my RA pains, I reeeeaaallllyyyy should have spoke up a lot more often about being in pain. I sat quietly by and suffered so that I didn't have to take medicine WAY too often. Perhaps I really did burn my brain out on its pain reception. I mean really, what kid wants to be sick over and over and over?
Katie darl, I think all those factors could have contributed to your panic attacks. That is a fair amount for a child to deal with when you think about it too. And I think being a nerd and an only child already means you are isolated to a degree, add the RA and the constant moving and yes, isolation would have been a certainty. Even if you don't remember feeling that way, it still may have been there for you.

I don't disagree with your brain pain burnout either. God knows this disease does enough crazy things to our bodies...why not.
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