OT: Chit Chat 9/14/07 | Arthritis Information

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Morning Friends!!  Wanted to wake up at 6 but it is 8am and well I am just getting up.  Kelsay was up earlier but I put Cartoon Network on and she was good to go, then i made the mistake of laying back down.....Owell. Guess I needed it. Feeling about the same today.  Hubby yelled at me saying that Im overdoing myself that he doesnt care how many times we have to do an extenstion its not worth me pushing myself.  So that helped ALOT.  But he did say something that Im not sure what I think about yet. I wanna see what you guys think...Ok, so Im the type of person that even since I've been sick I still have to run at the same speed and do the same amount that I did before I was sick.  I told him that I should beable to do the same amount that he does.  THat I'm sick of letting RA dictate what I can and cannot do.  Well he said that that is never going to happen that I cant expect to be able to do as much as he does in a day (not necessarly the same stuff but as many hours)  So yea, that kinda upset me but I dunno if it just did cause maybe Im in denial that I think I can still do it all...Whatca all think?

Sometimes you'll be able to keep up; sometimes you won't.  I've learned that with my husband and his heart condition and my RA.  Sometimes he leans on me; sometimes I lean on him.  And we each have different strengths and weaknesses.  I can fix damn near anything; he has the patience of a saint with the kids.  Go with your instincts. You're in denial. I know, I have been there. But I think it takes a long time to adjust to living life at a different pace, your pace. Until we can manage to not feel guilty or pissed off about what we can't manage, we run ourselves ragged.

It has taken forever for me to be able to let go of that stuff and stop saying, "But I should be able to do it!" and start saying but "This is what I did do and it was important."

I think this is part of grieving too and the whole loss thing that goes with RA.

At least hubby is supportive and wanting you to look after yourself rather than not understanding and putting pressure on you.

Shannon, I'm with you.  Denial is not the right word, I don't think.  I think determination is the right word.  We are determined to still do what we want to do and not let our bodies stop us. 

In reality, we can't, but either can anyone else.  We all learn our limitations, but I think if we stay determined to keep doing everything we've ever done, at least we're still trying.  I think when people stop trying, they fall into depression and don't know all that they ARE capable of. 

I know exactly how you feel.  You're out to prove yourself - to yourself and others.  Your hubby is being a good guy, and there will be things you will want to let him take over, and that's okay.  You'll find there are things you can take over for him too!  I have become my husband's secretary, his business manager, his editor (his spelling and sentence structure is BAD!), etc.  That's what a real marriage is as it evolves.  You become a team, backing each other up along the way and boosting each other up too. 

I applaud your determination and positive "I can do it" attitude.  It will serve you well!

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I always used to see it as if I slowed down and delegated things then I wasnt coping. It took me a long time to realise that by going full speed ahead I wouldnt be able to cope anyway, at some point I would make myself worse. My family likes to help as they see it as a positive way of making life better.

We all get sick and tired of this RA ruling our lives but its about putting it into perspective and changing a few limits. You are so young Shannon and for you it must be harder as you have alittle one you still want to run at full steam for. Be kind to yourself as it will fall into place. Do what you can and at what speed your body allows and dont worry about the little things.

Take care

Hill, I totally understand being hubby's secretary.  He is dyslexic and his spelling and sentence structure are non-existant.  Merryn and I do all his essays for school.  He writes them out, Merryn and I decipher them, I fix the spelling and Merryn fixes the sentence structure and makes it University grade in presentation.  Some of his typos are sooo funny that even spellcheck doesn't have a clue what he wants to say.  And spell check doesn't always get the right word. He was doing a permission slip for his students for an excursion and unless I had read it over they would have been going on an excision.  Could have been an interesting day.Dang, it's definately fall here, just reached out to turn off the lights and there's a daddy long legs right by the light switch. They start to move in the house when it gets too cold for them outside. Had two in the shower and you know where they came from.

Shannon at least your husband is aware and accomodating about your health. Most days, mine doesn't seem to have a clue until I was in that terrible flare and bed ridden.   It's one thing to be in denial, I was, then the determination set in.  I said I can't be just sitting around and doing nothing.  I used to work in Food Service for 17 years, and I'm glad I did.  The stress on my body was unbelieveable.  You hve to start thinking about yourself.  One woman wrote in that her husband has a heart condition, and they lean on eaach other.  That's how my husband and I are.  He does do a lot of the work, cause I am so tired.  Best of Luck to you.  Hope to see you on the message boards soon.  Take care and God Bless you.         Dotti51

Deidre, I love the fall in AK.  Comes on so suddenly and is so fierce.  I need to go and visit some time.  Bundle up...I think the predictions are pretty cold throughout the US. 

I am at my last day of the week subbing.  I am exhausted and sick still.  I have been doing the whole nose thing, and today it kinda hurt.  I guess that's life...the show must go on!

I really leaned on the husband this past week... the strep throat really kicked my behind.  I was bedridden for much of the week.  He had to get the kids ready for school, work on homework with them, and get dinner ready.  He does tend to take the easy way out... "getting dinner ready" means calling the pizza man.  I found out last night that he actually believed the 7-year old when he said he had no homework... LOL you HAVE to check his backpack!!!!  And I did get the kids into the shower on Wednesday (with much protesting).  The older one exclaimed "But I just TOOK a shower on SUNDAY!  OMG that's nasty.

well I'm not in the same position as a lot of you, but I can see where I fit in. I guess after 10 years I've already gotten used to the fact that I am not able to do everything that my husband can (although he's in pretty good shape and health). I know that if I push myself the way he does, I will be sore the next day and regretting it. Then the next day I am limited in what I can do because of it. So I try to pace myself. I do get frustrated that I dont get as much done as he does. And I am lucky that my job consists of sitting in a comfy chair in an air conditioned cube all day. So it's usually not too painful or physically overbearing.

So my suggestion, think about how you'd feel later in the day, or think about what you might be doing to your body and how it would hurt if you do as much... we need to take extra care of our bodies since we got stuck with this crap :P

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yep, Shannon count your blessings.  I just realized last night how much my husband does not have a clue.  I would be so thankful to have someone on my side that would take some of the load.  I would never think of abusing it, but it would be handy.

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Shannon, my husband is the same way. I dont think he's quite come to realize what I deal with on a regular basis. And even why I try to explain to him, he just think I'm being a "wuss"; probably because he thinks he's such a tough guy. Any suggestions on how to make him realize or understand??

[QUOTE=julez_711][QUOTE=Shelly41]

yep, Shannon count your blessings.  I just realized last night how much my husband does not have a clue.  I would be so thankful to have someone on my side that would take some of the load.  I would never think of abusing it, but it would be handy.

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Shannon, my husband is the same way. I dont think he's quite come to realize what I deal with on a regular basis. And even why I try to explain to him, he just think I'm being a "wuss"; probably because he thinks he's such a tough guy. Any suggestions on how to make him realize or understand??

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Sorry! Shelly41! not Shannon. I dont know where that came from.

Julez, I have no clue...I guess it will come to them...maybe?I have to admit that my DH's denial about my health is mostly my fault, I didn't want to admit it and I didn't want it to change how I managed my life or how he saw me. I helped him build our house, pre RA, I built all the interior walls myself, cut & nailed up all the cedar paneling. I can barely hold a hammer now. It was really hard to admit to myself that I'm not that person anymore and on good days, I can kinda go back to being that person. The youngest DD is writing my biography for English, don't go "Awww, isn't that sweet" she told the teacher biographies are boring and she wasn't going to do someone famous because she didn't want to do the research. So as she's listening to my life story, I'm thinking, holy cow I was strong, and determined and adventurous and I'm really glad I didn't get RA before I got to do all those things.Well all... the pain in my neck is just about gone, so I better get this housework done!!!!

I have a day off today for bereavement leave.  My cousin committed suicide a couple of months ago, and we're having the memorial service tomorrow.  He left behind a wife and 6-year old twins (girl and boy). Family from out of town should be arriving in a couple of hours.  It's a damn shame that we only seem to get together for funerals. Shannon, denial is such a retarded word for this situation. LoL


Hunny, you gotta OWN this sh*t. Don't stop going going going, but don't kill yourself doing it either. Just because you don't feel well enough one day to do as you usually do, doesn't mean you're letting it beat you.

Some days I go go go go. Some days I stop stop stop. But it's MY DECISION. Not the RA's. Otherwise I'd never make it with this crap.

I really don't think hubby was trying to be rude or anything like that. It's actually quite nice that he recognizes that you can't be the same 110% forward moving person *every* day. He gets it: sh*t happens.

I have been SO JEALOUS of you lately. You have all this crap going on, and you're busting your BUTT every day to finish your school work. I'm DYING to go back to school, and I'm terrified that I'll be too exhausted to do it. But there you are, plowing through it and dealing with this that and the other like it's no big thing.

It's alright to take a break. :) You don't have to be super woman all the time.

Just most of the time!

awww guys...thanks for all of your advice and opinions that you have given me.. 

Katie, you made me cry....I do have to own it like you said.  Just becuase I can keep going one day doesnt mean that every day has to be like that. 

THANKS!!!

Ok, so I want to know why old people are refered to as "Old Farts"? Is it because they smell like one? Or because they let old farts?

I mean look at the saying "snot nose kid". I mean most kids do have snotty noses and they always wipe it on your clothes or on the couch EWW!! I have seen this first hand.

I feel a bit better today... it is sunny out and not looking like rain. I have not even been keeping up with the weather. No wonder why I am miffed as to why I hurt when I wake up, because I have no idea about the weather

 

I got out of bed to answer the system beeper at 6:40am. Hubby was kind enough to set up laptop for me pronto. Have only 15 minutes before the backup gets beeped out of bed or shower or whatever.  

Thank God it is Friday. Oh wait..I have the beeper this weekend too. Do I get paid for this? Nope. Pay is based on 40 hour work week - so getting out of bed to answer beeper is free. Oh yes be glad to even have a job. There are 10 straving Indians lined up to take my job.

Come to think of it some Indian sent me this beep this morning - even though the thing that is broken is in his system not ours. He has sent the problem to our group 2 times already this week. He knows that the problem is in his own system. What he does not know is how to fix it. The company fired someone in the USA (who did know how to fix the problem) to hire this guy. What a Bargain.

How's that for crabby?

Hummmm... I actually got the crabby outta that post, Marian!

I say throw that damn bleeping thing into the bleeping freezer and then you will no longer have to be beeped as you "forgot" where you put it, and let someone else find it in the freezer

So Kelsay is going to my dads tonight.  My dad has been in Ohio every weekend for the past 2 weeks so he's missed her.  So they are going to his gf's house tonight for dinner.  It was sooo cute.  My dad said that Amy is "the one"  did I tell you guys?  OMG its the cutest thing.  Its funny cause now him and my mom are very good friends.  He is my brothers Godfather.  But every woman that he has dated he has made a point to tell them that my mom and Alex are a big part of his life, and they have to be ok w/ that or the relationship wont work.  So Amy was ok w/ it but she was nervous that my mom wouldnt like her

OMG!! It is thundering and very cloudy and I guess going to RAIN AGAIN!

And the sometimes where hubby works (7 miles away) it will be raining so hard and off and on all day. And then when he gets home we are dry and have not seen any rain.

OH! It is lightening

 

Shannon, I didn't mean to make you cry? Unless it was a good cry! Then yeah...I'll take all the credit for that...

 

I was going to type something else, but I forgot what it was. There's a shocker...

A cry is a cry, no matter how you look at it and it does the same for the ole mental aspect

"Do not recycle before July 2008"

My arm is still hurting! And there are 7 FREE kitten in the paper today. I called but no one answered the phone

I wanna kitten!

Um. Okay.

I didn't understand any of that. But okay.

 

I'm in a really good mood today. Tomorrow is my "friday" And tonight Justin and I are gonna make a trip to the nice wally world and get some things. I think I'm gonna try to get a couple of little headbands. I think they might look cute with my hair like this. I might even take a pic!

 

Oh, and I asked Justin about helping me take some good photos of the area on Sunday, and he said he would come with me and help! So let's hope that we have bright skys, so the water looks good!!!

Why does it say on sugar free gum..."not a low calorie food"?????

1. Because the phone book will still be usable, and they will not print another one until July 2008.

 

2. Because then people with eating disorders are aware that gum is not considered a low calorie food, and cannot try to blame the gum company. AND because in ratio of calories to food portion (I think this is right) a stick of gum would technically be a high calorie "food"

Hummm... now, Link that is a stumper if I ever did hear one.

What is the answer to my other question of why old people are refered to as OLD FARTS? I bet you do not know the answer to that one

BEING STINKY LIKE AN EGG SALAD FART!

 

"The word "sugar" is defined as: 1) sucrose which is a white crystalline sweet carbohydrate normally extracted from sugar cane and sugar beet, or 2) a generic term that includes any of a class of water-soluble carbohydrates with various degrees of sweetness. Using the first definition, manufacturers can claim that a product is "sugar free" if it contains less than 0.5 grams of sugar (sucrose) per serving. However, it can still contain other sweet carbohydrate mixtures such as molasses, dried cane juice, high fructose corn syrup, or a variety of sugar alcohols like erythrol, mannitol, xylitol, etc. Sugar alcohols occur naturally or may be produced by hydrogenation of monosaccharides and disaccharides. Sugar alcohols usually provide only two calories per gram, rather than four calories per gram like other carbohydrates. If you are not familiar with chemical nomenclature, the total carbohydrate and sugars in the Nutrition Facts label gives you a good idea of the actual amount of sugars in a product. The example above shows a "sugar free" gum that says in small letters "not a low calorie food" and lists 2 grams of "sugar alcohols" which are listed as sorbitol, mannitol, and maltitol in the ingredients. On a weight basis, 74% of this product is carbohydrate (2 grams out of 2.7 grams serving size). "

 

My guess is that it's a trick they've come up with to make things seem healthier. While it SAYS sugar free, because it doesn't directly have *SUGAR* in it, it has things that not only contain sugar, but behave the same way. In turn, sugars should have something to do with calories.....so somewhere in there is your answer....

 

But now I've confused myself I think

 

Joonie, here : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=old+fart

Yea it was a good cry Katie...And Joonie there is a HUGE difference between a good cry and a bad cry

 

Link Blades of Glory was so goofy. It wasn't what I expected it to be though. Let me know how Disturbia is! I've heard good and bad about that one.

How much do you pay? [QUOTE=Linncn]But gum isn't food.  You don't eat it, you just chew it.[/QUOTE]

Tell that to my sister [QUOTE=Linncn]Jas

But now, I only cry if I am hurting or hurt myself.

I used to eat Pina Colada chap stick......

 

And flower petals. They taste all different, by the way.

I use to LOVE to eat the strawberry chapstick. That stuff was sooo YUMMY!!

I ate fish food a couple of times too.

You name it I probably ate it.

But why? [QUOTE=Linncn]I used to lick the back of the car seat.  Got a spankin for it every time I got caught.[/QUOTE]

Now that's weird.  *I* did that.I remember telling my dad, as I was being dragged off for my spanking, that I was only cleaning it. sob sob sob [QUOTE=arriscolwell]

I used to eat Pina Colada chap stick......

 

And flower petals. They taste all different, by the way. [QUOTE=Linncn]I remember telling my dad, as I was being dragged off for my spanking, that I was only cleaning it. sob sob sob[/QUOTE]

I had no compelling reason.  I just did it.

And to this day, whenever I get a new electronic gizmo or computer part, I have to smell it as soon as I take it out of the anti-static plastic wrap.  Don't know why. You licked car seats too?  That is weird.Joonie

 

And I still stick my tongue on 9 volt batteries....

Will be back.It's too cold here tonight to leave the windows open.  I hate Michigan. [QUOTE=arriscolwell]

I LOVE the smell of the copy machine. I'll stick my hands inbetween the fresh copies and smell the "hot paper" smell.

 

And I still stick my tongue on 9 volt batteries....

 

AND GLUE!! omg we used to take glue, and roll it around in our palms to get a nasty gray ball of sticky ICK. And I licked mine when no one was looking. LOL

[QUOTE=arriscolwell]

I also love construction paper. Mmmmm the smell!!!!

 

AND GLUE!! omg we used to take glue, and roll it around in our palms to get a nasty gray ball of sticky ICK. And I licked mine when no one was looking. LOL

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Never had a taste for glue.  But my sister would eat the mint-scented paste that had the spreader built into the cap.
I like letting white glue dry on my fingers and then pulling it off.  I guess I'm easily entertained.Or hot wax is good for that too

Yeah. Did that one too.

 

Now that I'm thinking back to my childhood here, I once stuck a key in an outlet.....I wanted to "start the car" I think I was like 3 or so. My little fingers were just BLACK as can be, and my friend went out into the living room and said in his SWEETEST voice "Katie made fire!"

 

Tererra: Hey Katie, I brought you hot copies!

Katie: Oh SWEET! Thanks! Mmm so warm!

Tererra: Don't hog it all, I didn't smell them yet!

Katie: Oh, sorry, here you can have the last bit of warm. I'll copy something later and share, I promise!

I wouldn't take what your husband said as anything bad.  I think he was just trying to be understanding.  As for me, I'm the same way as you.  I do everything I used to do regardless of the RA. I have had to slow myself down a little bit because the fatigue from RA on top of being tired from the doing just got to be too much.  Especially with a 2 yr old running around.  I like your attitude on this and I like Hillhoney's response.  I try not to let this illness beat me and be the control.  I try to maintain as much control as I possibly can with having RA.  Just don't overdo too much.  I'm a big overdoer and I pay for it frequently.  Rest if you need to. 

So, Katie...you are not the only one that likes the smell of hot copies.  I also like the feel of them.  Although I do like the smell of Sharpies, Rubber Cement, and Expo markers.  Man, that may be why I became a teacher?!Moderation is hard to achieve.  I feel I am constantly looking at if I am going to pay for this just tomorrow, or for a long time after that.  It is hard though.  Katie,  I haven't been around for a bit so if you've already shared this, I apologize. Did you find a car yet?  Linncn, I used to do that with glue too.  Also easily amused.  LOLI HATE white glue!  I do love the wax thing...ooooo, maybe that will help my hands tonight.

 Hey ya'll, I used to like to eat burned ends of matches and I loved to smell dirt like in a basement when I was pregnant

Shelly I loved to smell magic markers when I was in school

Do you know what happend to the Phats fit club did everyone give up all ready? 

OK, ya'll are a bunch of freaks! 

I actually love the smell of burned matches, but I sure don't like to eat the ends Mo!

Hi rahrahbrick! Sorry, but I don't know what happened to the diet thread. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get my butt in diet mode, so I haven't been paying much attention.

Linda from NJ

RahRah...I did see it earlier today...don't know why it disappeared. 

Mo'  ya...magic markers!  Well, that explains a lot about my lack of memory...occupational hazard!haha

Yes Linda, we are definitely a strange lot! LOL

And no, we don't stay up at night trying to come up with the next day's topic...all this craziness is spontaneous! 

 

Gale

If I dont get myself in diet mode I think my butt will be in trouble or at least one size bigger LOL

Linda from NJ

 

   What??? We talk strange??? How can you say that Linda?

Brisen is the only strange one around here, she's a valley girl

Oh Princess Fatback...do not open that can of worms!j/k

is it craziness or all the pain meds we are all taking we forget what we were watching on TV when we click on commercials but we have not forgotten how to laugh and be silly

 

Linda from NJ

Hmmmmm, one has to wonder what's more strange...a valley girl or a fatback girl??? 

Oh, The later it gets the sillier(sillyer??) I get...hmmm and I can't spell it even!

LOL Linda! That's called 'RA brain'!

 

 

 We have the patent on SILLY!

hurting+tired+meds+us=silly!

 

I have even rearranged whole family groups in one message!!  Gosh I'm good.  Of course that was after my first Remicade infusion.  Remind me to get off early on Wed.  I could have the whole board living together.

 Yeah Shelly gets really confused sometimes

I LOVE FATBACK!

Ok, where is Special K???  Did you all scare her away?? [QUOTE=moana]

 Hey ya'll, I used to like to eat burned ends of matches and I loved to smell dirt like in a basement when I was pregnant

Shelly I loved to smell magic markers when I was in school

Do you feel better now?

I guess thats why I love the smell of the basement, reminds me of the farm house

Yuck! I hate musty basements...I have one, and it needs cleaned...help anyone???

I am much better now.  I went to the gym tonight, but I forgot my swimsuit.  I thought it was in my locker at the gym. I don't think I have a favorite smell. In fact, so many smells really bother me. My husband says I have the nose of a hound dog...I'm always telling him it smells like the brakes are burning when we're in the car and it drives him crazy!

My basement is finished on one side w/den, bath, and bedroom. On the other side is concrete and cinder blocks. Doesn't smell like anything but gets those ugly spiber crickets in there and they jump *shudders* and they look like an alien! YUK

What's a SPIBER cricket? Is a 'spiber' cricket the same as a cyber cricket???  

YES, Gale it is our job to drive them crazy...some are just better at it.j/k

 

 ROFLMAO

SPIDER crickets

Gosh, I love that the princess cannot spell after 8pm!!!  My son got a chuckle about the cyber crickets!

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Kelly...I could have used the hot tub and steam room....your little nose thingy is not clearing the stuff.  I still feel like the right side of my face has been beaten. 

YES, Gale it is our job to drive them crazy...some are just better at it.j/k

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Perhaps it's time to call the doctor.  If it were allergies, it would be both sides... if it's one-sided, it may have gone into an infection.  I used to always get sinus infections on the left side.  I've had CT scans, which show some scar tissue and narrowing of the passages, but not enough to warrant surgery at this point.  Besides, with regular neti pot use (even when not feeling crappy), I've not had a problem in the past year.
Moana, if they're cyber crickets, just turn off the computer and they'll go away Well all... I've got to go take a shower.  After sitting in a bar discussing politics, I smell like... well, A BAR.  Back in a few!

 

I have already had surgery on the right side.  Yep! never do that again....no, no, no!  It feels better on the lft side, and it feels ok after the use, but on the right side it seems to be getting sorer by the day.  Now I have added that beautimous sinus cough. 

 

The princess is a good speller, just not a good typer

Now how does that neti pot go? How do you do it?

*sings*

I got a kitty! I got a kitty! I got a kitty!

Congratulations...where's the pictures!  You won you lucky duck!

 

awww Joonie I wanna see!!! What's it's name??

 

good night all! 

Nite Shelly!  Good night Shelly!

I know, I have alot to be thankful for. I can fly out to see them anytime I want. Believe me, I'm counting my blessings and I have to have more patience.

Joonie, you got a kitty? What does it look like? How old is it? Is it a girl or a boy?

I want one too!

Living in a different state than our kids is really hard. My daughter has been in Idaho for the past 2 years, and we're in California. Fortunately, she's moving back to San Diego next week!WOOHOO!!!  A kitty!  Details, please! We want pics joonie!

 

 Wow Miles that sure is a big loss, but I don't blame you for wanting to be near your boys. Besides I've heard Oregon is beautifil!

I don't know what I'd do if one of my kids moved too far away

Good luck selling your house

 Thanks Joonie the kitty is sooo cute and oh look, its so little

 

Grrr... one of the kids must have left something somewhere that's rotting in a corner.  There are a bunch of gnats flying around.  That usually happens when someone takes an apple and sets it down and forgets about it.  They like to roll under the radiators (probably from the kitties playing fruit salad hockey).  I hate going on these scavenger hunts...

Where the heck is joonie???

How dare she blow in here and then blow right on out without giving us details! [QUOTE=Brisen]

Where the heck is joonie???

How dare she blow in here and then blow right on out without giving us details!

 Well thats just what she did Brisen

 

Miles2go - just remember, that if you're having to lower the price of your house, so is most everyone else right now. Yeah, we're gunnin' for her now!

Or Joonie is paying for the kitty [QUOTE=moana]

 

Or Joonie is paying for the kitty Nite Kelly! Talk to you tomorrow!

It has rained here hard all day lond! We hadn't had hardly any rain for a month. I hope it clears tomorrow, we're planning to go up in the mountains to an apple/Brown Mountain Lights Festival.

 Good Night Kelly

 No Brisen they're there all the time, just not every night. We've been a million times and I've only seen them a couple of times. Kinda creepy but really neat. They're colored balls of light and they just float on the side of the mountain here to there. Been around since the 1700s. Their in all the NC history and science books. No one really has ever been able to explain them. Some theory's and ghost tales

Have you ever tried to take a picture of the lights?

 

 They're in the Linville Gorge and thats about 20 mins from us... they're having an arts and crafts fair, ghost story telling, live "mountain" music, foods, pottery displays (which I am nuts for) and all kinds of neat stuff

 No I've never seen a picture of the lights come to think of it....Yeah Joonie would freak and Karen would try to contact the ghost

 COME ON hop a plane!!! it would  be so much fun!! This is only the second year they've had it and it was huge success last year.

Google The Brown Mountain Lights, theres lots of stuff!

I think I'm going to hit the hay too...my Ambien is starting to kick in. Have fun tomorrow Mona! TTYL!

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 Thanks Brisen You too, Good Night
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