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Hey friends.  I'm going on a Candida diet!  When I first got diagnosed with JRA, the first thing my doctor told me was to see an allergenist.  The allergenist suggested that I had candida, a yeast overgrowth  At the time I was 15 and hadn't even understood JRA nor accepted it so I didn't watch the movie, hoping my RA would just sort itself out, or I would just get better naturally... anything to keep it out of my head.  Since then, I have accepted the disease and have been pursuing THE CURE.

I haven't had any sugar today!  Also, I went to the store and bought some candida friendly (or unfriendly lol) foods.  I'm always pretty healthy when it comes to what I eat, but now I'm even more healthy which kind of exciting.

I will officially start this experiment on Friday, but I have already began prepping by cutting out sugar.  I still have to pick up some anti-fungal stuff, some Acidophilus, and maybe some other food items.

I would really appreciate some support!

Ty




Well, you have my support and my attention! I am seriously considering doing the same thing. The AP I'm on is working great so far, but it's also become obvious to me I have yeast issues, so not only do I support you but I'm curious about the details.
I take acidolphilus and other probiotics twice a day, but I'd like to find more natural sources of probiotics such as homemade kefir or sourkraut. I still eat some processed flour and sugar, too much sugar! But less than I ate in the past. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was my anti-Candida diet!
There's another woman on this board, Pip, who may soon start an anti-candida diet, so I'm sure she'd also like to hear about it.
What kind of anti-fungal stuff were you thining of using?
Well, so far so good.  For breakfast I had some brown rice puffs which have less than 1g of sugar and are gluten free gurudami39343.4458217593Rockin'! Question - besides the obvious for females, how do you decide if you have yeast issues? I can't see any signs of yeast on my daughter (except maybe her occasional Notpsoriasis rash, which remains unexplained by our medical herd).    Suzanne, I don't think there's an easy way. You can take this quiz:

http://altmedicine.allinfo-about.com/features/quizcandida.ht ml

(You have to cut and paste, I'm sorry, for some reason my link keeps going to Wikipedia. Don't forget to remove the extra space between t and m in html)

I took it but it was "inconclusive". I think your doctor can also do some kind of test. I've been a bit of an Ostrich about the whole thing myself but it's time to face the yeast....
Gimpy-a-gogo39343.4567708333Thanks Go-go!! She's also inconclusive, and really most of my 'yesses' had to do with being on an antibiotic - if yeast is causing any of her symptoms, I think I would have had more yesses for things outside antibiotics.

Yeah, GoGo's right - I'm not building the diet in a day either.  You think I'd be less of a sissy about it.

Guru - man, keep posting!

OK, how about 1 Tbsp of apple cider vinegar in a 8 oz. glass of water.  Yet another thing that I have to gag down - but it's supposed to work on acid levels and PH and be anti-yeast.

Pip

Gosh!  After a 1.5 days of no sugar, I had an apple... and WOW!  I was spinning around in my chair at work lol.  I'm going to have to cut all fruit for the first week or so.

I had lentils, rice pasta, and some rutabagas and carrots for dinner...  Remember, lentils (beans) + rice =  a complete protein.

You know what's funny?  My mom wants to do this Candida diet with me lol.

Gimpy - I posted some antifungal stuff on my blog.  I was thinking about for sure starting with Garlic, Pau d'Arco, and Acidophilus.  I may get some citrus seed extracts depending on the prices of everything.  I'll let you know what I get.

Suzanne - Try this Candida test with your daughter.  It seems funny, but it works!  Also, does she have cravings for sugar? breads?

Pip - I'm not sure about apple cider vinegar as vinegar is acidic and fermented... If I were you, I wouldn't be putting more acids into my body.  Does it seem to help?  Have you noticed any Candida "die off?"

Anybody else enjoying the anti-inflammatory (cooler) weather? gurudami39343.8572685185

Guru -

Yeah, I thought that too.  Just saw a bunch of posts on how bizarrely it worked the opposite of what we'd think.  I'll see if I can find them for you

I don't know if it's helping yet.  I can't seem to do it more than once a week.  My stomach really hates the entire idea.  I get the heaves. 

My stomach seems to hate anything not chocolate.  :-)  Whole lemon drink.  Heaves.  Vitamins.  Heaves.  It takes me a long time to work up on anything.

Pip

I don't know a lot about alkaline diet theory, but I do know that foods that
are acidic don't necessarily cause your body to be more acidic. Lemon, for
example, is an alkaline food.
Acid reducing diets and anti-candida diets are different, so maybe it would
be less nutritionally complicated to stick to one at a time?"My stomach seems to hate anything not chocolate." lol!

Lemon and other citrus extracts are used in the treatment of Candida... illogical, but true.

The reason acid reducing steps compliment the Candida diet is that when the yeast cells explode, they release alot of acidic poisons (wastes).  Since all body waste is acidic anyway, acid reducing supplements are good to use.  This does make things a bit more complicated, but acid reduction steps will probably ease the initial hump during the Candida die off, accelerating the whole cleansing process.
Gurudami - Hubby is out of town, so maybe we will all spit in cups in the morning LOL. I'm already planning a group 'epson salt/peroxide spritz' tonight. (He always acts like stuff won't work, but then I catch him after the fact trying things on himself....)

My daughter does not crave sweets at all, or bread. She likes salty chips and crackers and cheese, eats only the cheeses on pizza, etc. She likes most fruit, too.

Thanks for the picture of the spit test! I've seen it described many times, but the diagram is helpful.Wow, I thoroughly enjoyed the website and I will be following this closely.  Thanks you so much!  

There is a sure fire natural cure for candida, yeast thrush and other bad things and you don't have to change your diet. Easy to find if you use the internet for reasearch as you would for chit-chat. Who or whom will find it first? Begins with the letter g and is three words long or 3 letter abbreviation. Practically a miricle cure that actually is.

LEV

 

Have you been to Peru recently?  Do you know someone name Kuan?  I think I saw you on the E True Hollywood Story recently.

Hillhoney, Not to peru but everywhere for research for this disease that i have. It's called rheumatoid arthritis. I have no concern for peoples kitties and doggies and Oprah and other silly stuff. My disease leads my life and i am bound and determined to make it better. I watched a program a short while back about parents that had a son with a very rare disease. So rare that no one or company would research it. The child was to be dead by his teens. The parent raised over 5 million dollars, found science researchers and their son is cured and alive and just graduated from high school. I have found naturals that have helped me with the disease that i have. I haven't found a cure, but certainly a couple of natural helpers that have allowed me to cut my prednisone in almost half in less than 3 months, my methotrexate from 25 to 20 and will continue to go down with both pred and mtx. I was going to come back here and tell you all the good news but thank you for reminding me who you are.

LEV

Guru,

Good luck on your diet.  I wanted to support you.  I have struggled with my sugarfree / gluten free diet for over a year now.  Our society does not support this life style.  I have to CONSTANTLY read labels. 

At work I have to pass up all of the free food.  My co-workers have a hard time understanding why I can't eat the cakes and cookies and candies they are constantly snacking on.  Temptation is EVERYWHERE.

The best advice I got was to shop around the outer walls  of the grocery store.  The isles in the middle contain all of the processed stuff ( of which so many have sugar... even pretzels and potatoe chips

I have eliminated all refined sugars from my diet.  But I have to admit that I have been unsuccessful in reducing my fruit sugars.  I often crave sweets and a piece of fruit is my only option.

Are you allowed to use agave as a sweetener on the candida diet?

Please keep us posted on your success

Marybeth

 

 

[QUOTE=Gimpy-a-gogo]I don't know a lot about alkaline diet theory, but I do know that foods that
are acidic don't necessarily cause your body to be more acidic. Lemon, for
example, is an alkaline food.
[/QUOTE]

Yep - I remember that from biochem 3.  Citrus fruits alkalinize the body.
You can have stevia on an anti-candida diet. Drrrr....In knew there was
something i needed when i was at the hippie store today. Stevia. It's sweet,
but not a sugar!Being supported by you guys makes me feel good, so thanks Interesting - "In the United States, it is legal to import, grow, sell, and consume stevia products if contained within or labeled for use as a dietary supplement, but not as a food additive." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

"Wow, I thoroughly enjoyed the website and I will be following this closely.  Thanks you so much!"  Thanks now & then, I am flattered!

I will be going to the health store today after work to see what kind of anti-fungal stuff I can find.  I'll update you guys with what I find.

Gimpy I always pictured you as a hippy....am I wrong???(hippee storeLOL)

Stevia is good, although for me it does very strange digestive stuff. 

 

Garlic clove water? Great Yogurt Conspiracy?

I don't think I won....wasn't have much success filtering out the commercial sites; some are still listed as orgs... Ok after spending alot of money, this is what I got lol.

1. Grape Seed Extract
gurudami39345.7626851852

Guru

Don't forget the water.  I have learned the hard way to drink lots of water when dealing with die-off and detox.   Ten hours after one of my treatments I was on the bathroom floor at work because I was so sick with diarrhea, cramping and dizziness.  Mostly because I hadn't drank enough water to flush the toxins out of my system.

The other thing that worked for me was to substitute healthy choices for the sugar.  I was addicted to Mountain dew.  I found a product called Switch or Izzy which are sodas that use fruit juice and no added sugar.  This helped ease some of the psychological dependance I had on Mountain Dew.   I still drink some diet pepsis once in a while but not nearly as much as when I was drinking mountain dew.

Family support is a must as well.  My sister even tried to go sugar free.  The week she succeeded was enough to get me on my way.

Finally , I read it takes about 21 days to develop a habit.  So I had a board in my dining room where I counted down the days.

This is worth it.  Keep the faith.

 

Yes, water is good, almost forgot!  *chugs water*  Well, today the experiment begins.... I'm going cold turkey on ALL sugar for the first week... then maybe add some fruits. Hey I checked out your site---it's pretty good! That diet looks prohibitavly restricted, though. Are there any candida diets with more latitude?

I stayed up really late reading about kefir again, and I talked to my GP about it today when I was there for an unrelated issue. It seems to be agood, affordable, fresh, homemade probiotic source. Some people say it's better than yogurt because it has more variety in the starins of bacteria (plus, it only takes overnight to make it). I've decided I'm going to try it. First I have to get my hands on some decent kefir grains. Once I found an international kefir grain exchange and gifting site, and there was someone about a block from me who had some. I have to find that site again.

I also went to this naturo-pharmacy and asked the homeopath to cook me up a tincture for candida control I can take every day. This pharamacy has regular drugs too, but mostly they have homeopathic stuff and they have clinical phramacists that make sure none of the homeopathic stuff will be contraindicted by your pharmaceutical meds. They have ready-made candida tincture but I can't use it because of the echinacea in it, so they made up a special blend for me. It's surprisingly cheap, too.

I will keep those interested posted on my kefir progress!
I have relocated the kefir grain exchange site, and have emailed some people close to me. Soon I will have an endless supply of kefir!

It is grapefruit seed extract, GSE. I have always believed that parasites and worms and microbes that nest in our joints is the cause of many joint problems. GSE is excellant for yeast thrush and so many other things. I started at 20 drops in juice 3 times a day. I did feel run down for a few days i guess to the overload of dead things leaving my body thru liver, kidneys etcs. I did that for 7 days and now usually take 3-5 drops twice daily. I feel so much better and have been on it almost a month. Anyway, one of my secrets is out. Here is some reading material. But, do your own GSE search.

LEV

Why Grapefruit Seed Extract?

After 30 years in use by naturopathic physicians, clinics and the general public grapefruit seed extract has been proven to be a safe and effective multipurpose (broad spectrum) compound with countless uses.

Grapefruit seed extract is being used successfully in humans and animals alike to fight many types of internal and external infections caused from parasites (single and multi-celled), viruses, bacteria, fungus and more!

The greatest benefit is due to it's multipurpose (broad spectrum) effect. It is effective even if the causes of the infections are known, unknown or misdiagnosed. Grapefruit seed extract naturally detoxifies, enhances and supports the immune system.

Grapefruit seed extract contains high levels of vitamin C and E, and bioflavonoids. The important substances have an antioxidant action and can neutralize free radicals that damage cells and cause a number of illnesses.

Another important benefit of grapefruit seed extract is that it is helpful in alkalizing the blood. Alkalizing the body fluids (raising pH) is one of the single most important health regeneration benefits available as disease causing microforms (fungi, bacteria, virus etc.) cannot survive in an alkaline oxygenated environment. Though lemons, limes, and grapefruits are chemically acid, tests show that when they are metabolized in the body they actually have an alkalizing effect. They have very little sugar and they contain an abundance of oxygen. This is a plus for anyone fighting candida or any other disease. Conclusion: Eat more fresh vegetables and less processed foods as most all vegetables are alkaline forming in the body.

Grapefruit seed extract is effective at very low concentrations. During 1989-90, an international research team (reported in the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, Volume 5, No. 3, USA, 1990) examined the effects of GSE and compared this with 30 effective antibiotics and 18 proven fungicides. GSE was found to perform as well as any and all of the tested agents. Without the harsh side effects. It is a natural alternative to strong antibiotics.

Grapefruit seed extract is nontoxic. According to an independent laboratory testing "Acute Oral Toxicity", it would take at least 4,000 times the normal dose of gse to produce a 50% chance of poisoning (called LD50).

Because grapefruit seed extract does not exhibit the harsh side effects and high cost of pharmaceuticals it is becoming the alternative health choice for naturopathic physicians, clinics and the general public.

Internal uses include but not limited to: Digestive Upsets, Gastrointestinal Disorders, Diarrhea and Food Poisoning. Infections from: Parasites (single and multi-celled), Bacterial, Viral and Fungal. Candida Yeast Infections, Thrush and Chronic Fatigue. Oral Infections: Tooth Plaque, Gum Disorders, Breath Freshener and Mouthwash. Colds and Flu, Sore Throats, Strep Throat, Ear Inflammation / Pain, Gassiness, Sinusitis and much more!

External uses include but not limited to: Acne, Athletes Foot, Nail Fungus Infections. Skin Infections: Fungal / Bacterial / Parasitic / Viral / Ringworm, Cuts / Wounds. Warts, Poison Ivy/Poison Oak, Rashes, Jock Itch, Shaving Itch, Dandruff, Cold Sores / Herpes, Head Lice, Chickenpox, Cracked Lips, Toothbrush Cleaning and much more!

Physicians have observed that the herpes simplex virus becomes inactive just ten minutes after the application of grapefruit seed extract.

One of the most important applications for grapefruit seed extract is in the support and protection of individuals with chronic immune system problems (AIDS, Chronic Fatigue, and Candida patients). See more: benefits of grapefruit seed extract.

 

How Does Grapefruit Extract Work?

According to studies, the activity of the active ingredient of grapefruit seed extract appears to develop in the cytoplasmic membrane of the microorganisms. The active ingredients of the extract disorganize the cytoplasmic membrane, thereby preventing the uptake of amino acids.

At the same time, there is a leakage of the cellular contents with low molecular weight through the cytoplasmic membrane. The pathogen is then inactivated. The time for this is generally shorter than that of most comparable preparations.

Grapefruit seed extract does not allow germs to build up a resistance. To date there is no evidence that any type of organism has ever built up a resistance to grapefruit seed extracts active ingredient. Due to the mode of its activity it is believed that this resistance is impossible as grapefruit seed extract disrupts the organisms cytoplasmic membrane.

What is not known is how GSE can affect the cell membranes of such a diverse group of microbes with virtually no toxicity toward animal life (The "Acute Oral Toxicity Study" performed by an independent laboratory concluded that you would have to take 4,000 times the normal adult dose to risk a 50% chance of poisoning). And to complicate matters further, since viruses do not have a cell membrane of their own, how is it that GSE can act as a remedy as it does.

Grapefruit Seed Extract and Protozoan Infections

Louis Parish, M.D., investigator for the department of health and human services, Public Health Service, Food and Drug Administration, reported in his prospectus for the FDA that grapefruit seed extract is "...as effective as any other preparation now available, perhaps more effective ... it does not cause the side effects." For intestinal problems, including dysentery he believes that grapefruit seed extract, "Gives more symptomatic relief than any other treatment."

Nearly 200 patients were treated for Entamoeba histolytica and giardia lamblia by Dr. Parish and his associates over a two month period. Dr. Parish went on to say "it (grapefruit seed extract) gives symptomatic relief more than any other product. It would be hard to overstate the value of grapefruit seed extract to my medical practice. It has no inherent toxicity.

 

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Candida Yeast Infections & Parasitic Infections

By Dr. Leo Galland

There's something unique about this particular substance (grapefruit seed extract). Whatever it does, it does without the debilitating side effects. It has the advantage of being very safe. In the treatment of candidiasis it appears as effective as nystatin, caprylic acid, and other non-absorbed intestinal antifungal agents.

Dr. Galland considers the availability of grapefruit seed extract to be "...a major therapeutic breakthrough for patients with chronic parasitic and yeast infections..."

Many drug sensitive individuals find GSE to be much better tolerated than other antifungal preparations, and I have several patients in whom this product alone helped control chronic candidiasis when no other medication was tolerated or effective. In a test of 20 patients with vaginal yeast infection, 15 had relief of their symptoms in only 3 days after douching with grapefruit seed extract every 12 hours.

 

Grapefruit Extract Safety

Grapefruit seed extract has been extensively tested and proven safe and effective by many laboratories and research centers throughout the world.

Grapefruit seed extract has no inherent toxicity and exhibits no negative impact on beneficial intestinal bacteria. There are no known side effects or interactions. Grapefruit seed extract can be taken for long periods of time with no ill or toxic effects.

It is non-allergenic. Even people who are allergic to citrus have had no adverse reactions. This is largely due to its harmonizing effects to cope with body stress. Although about 3 to 5 per cent of all people are allergic to citrus fruit and could therefore also display a sensitive reaction to grapefruit seed extract. These people should start with a low dosage and perform a patch test to be sure.

Grapefruit seed extract can be used safely by most people. Even infants and the elderly, as well as those with compromised health. Pets and animals of all types and sizes can benefit greatly using grapefruit seed extract.

Grapefruit seed extract has been safely used worldwide for over 25 years by countless doctors, alternative health care practitioners and veterinarians.

 

How is Grapefruit Extract Made?

Grapefruit extract (GSE) is made by first converting grapefruit seeds and pulp into a very acidic liquid. This liquid is loaded with polyphenolic compounds, including quercitin, helperidin, campherol glycoside, neohelperidin, naringin, apigenin, rutinoside, poncirin, etc.

The polyphenols themselves are unstable but are chemically converted into more stable substances that belong to a diverse class of products called quaternary ammonium compounds. Some quaternary compounds, benzethonium chloride and benzalkonium chloride, for example, are used industrially as antimicrobials, but are toxic to animal life. The B vitamin choline is also a quaternary compound, but is nontoxic and even essential for maintaining healthy neurological function and fat metabolism.

Grapefruit extract features the best of both worlds. While evidencing none of the toxic side-effects of chemically-derived quaternaries.

The finished product is a viscous, yellow-amber colored liquid that features a taste that is both bitter and acidic. Pure vegetable glycerin is added to reduce the bitterness and acidity to a tolerable level and to reduce the possibility that incidental contact could cause irritation to the skin or mucous membranes. Grapefruit seed extract has a slight citrus smell.

Eh, why no echinacea? 

Why do I feel like I just failed PE?  I should know this.

Pip

Pip,

I have read that Echinacea shouldn't be used by people with Auto-immune diseases.  This is in the German E-Commission.  (Kind of like the bible of natural medicine).

From my own experience, my symptoms really set in after I had a cold which I agressively treated with Echinacea ( every 2 hours for almost 24 hours).  My cold went away but then the joint pains set in.

Here is an interesting article on 3 cases studies against the use of Echinacea in people with auto-immune diseases.

Medical Herbalism: A Journal for the Herbal Practitioner