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hi guys, my name is erica. i'm 27, full time mom, student, & bartender :) and i was just diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. i had always considered myself an intelligent person, yet i was surprised at how clueless i was to RA. i considered it an old lady disease & had visions of gnarled yucky hands and shuffling around with a walker and i was horrified when i got the diagnosis. i read up quickly on the net, while i was waiting on the xrays and bloodwork to come back (sad to say it but the net can be your worst enemy when researching anything medical) and freaked out so i abandoned my googling efforts. however there was a considerable bit of 'trustworthy' sites that i gleaned enough knowledge to know that my first perception of RA, who gets it, and how it would effect me were SOOOO wrong! i stumbled on this board and i'm glad that there is a place where people from all walks of life can talk to other people facing the same situation.

a quick rundown of what led me here:
i started having intense pain, stiffness and swelling in my shoulder lasting a day or so. then my ankle, then my wrist, then finally my shoulder again. i had been feeling like crap for a while, sore throats, general malaise, run down, fatigued kind of nonsense and my PCP gave me a sulfa drug to get rid of the 'virus' when my shoulder started hurting again i finally had enough and went to the emergency room. *side note* first wrong diagnosis & negative run in with medical professionals...they had me wait in a room for three hours bawling i was in so much pain, finally a rude dr came in, jerked my shoulder around some, declared i had a pinched nerve in my neck, shot my hip full of delaudid and sent me packing. in their defense a woman at 4am crying in pain with no injury they assume drug seeking behavior and they treat you like dirt. he managed somehow to give me a RX for predisone, and said to see my regular dr. i did and he said i had an autoimmune reaction to the sulfa drug *second wrong diagnosis* and told me even though the er doc was wrong he still gave me the right course of treatment. well a few weeks after the course of prednisone which made me want to eat my own arm off and made me gain 20 some pounds the pain returned. my doc said i mustve had rheumatic fever, he assumed all the sore throats and junk were strep that went untreated and he just listened to my heart and sent me on my merry way. *third wrong diagnosis* well i was starting to feel like a real jerk by now, a hypocondriac a sissy a cry baby you name it. my boss was giving me loads of crap saying i was faking to get out of work and to toughen up...well deep down i knew there was something really wrong, and i wasn't myself and even though i was a sissy, i know pain. i had two children one completely unmedicated and i refused to believe that this is normal in any way. finally i went to a different doctor, gave him the detailed long version of what i had been going through and he did blood work, said he thought i had lupus *fourth wrong diagnosis i think i have lost count haha* and referred me to a rheumy. i was wary of course but i decided i had nothing to lose. i had swallowed my pride told the dr everything and left it up to a higher power. my labs came back with a high rheumatoid factor and my doctor didnt really tell me what that meant, he stuck to his lupus theory and i went to the rheumatologist. he was super thorough and understanding, and gave a thorough exam, each joint and all that. he sent me for xrays, more labs, (think 14 vials of blood) to rule out other autoimmune disorders and diseases, and gave me a tentative diagnosis of rhematoid arthritis. my labs (all except for the RF) the first time were good for the markers of inflammation like sed rate, ana, etc, and the new round of tests showed an elevated sed rate, positive ANA, pos crp, still pos RF, and a strongly positive ccp of 127. i was a bit alarmed that only 2 weeks before most of those were normal but regardless it was def a step in the right direction to fixing me! my xrays were all normal as were all of my other blood tests. he said that the good thing about being a sissy was that i came to him while my RA was still in the early stages and no permanent joint damage was done. i felt very vindicated in my quest to getting someone to notice that i wasn't ok. however diagnosis is a double edged sword. i felt immediately relieved to know that i was indeed right, and following my instinct had saved me permanent harm, and at the same time completely intimidated about the prospects of dealing with a life long incurable chronic condition which is known to be debilitating. also the pos ccp test is usually an indicator of a more aggressive and erosive form of the disease. the felt a gamut of emotions ranging from complete and utter devastation and depression and resilence, like ok fine now i know and i can take preventative measures to keep my life as normal and pain free as possible. with two kids 7 &2, i cried buckets over stupid things i take for granted like coloring and diaper duty. you would've thought they'd told me i had cancer the way i reacted. in some ways i think i grieved for the future i had dreamed about without really being realistic about how the worst case prognosis isn't always the erica case...

i have to go back to the rheumy on friday and he wants to start me on immunosuppressive drugs to try and keep the harmful stuff at bay for as long as possible. sorry to write such a long novel about this, but its the first time i have really been able to get out everything in one setting since i got the diagnosis. i guess the important thing is that you know your body, your instinct can be more powerful than anything especially stupid people who don't want to listen to you and being your own advocate and sticking up for what you know is true is all you can really do. also i let my imagination run wild after a google experience and that is something people should avoid. the internet is great for quick facts, but RA is a very personal thing, its different for everyone and how and where you hurt varies so much, and you cannot read the horrific stuff and let that stress you out. hopefully everyone can find a dr that they feel comfortable with and ask him a million questions until you get the answers you need.

the emotional side of RA is understated everywhere i read. i feel like i shattered into a million peices, however picking them up and putting them together again and going on with my life has been a big part of how i coped with this. i realized that laying in bed and crying only hurt me more. taking small things for granted was now the bane of my existence. i made new goals, and new plans and i hope that i am strong enough, and have enough support to carry them out. like losing some of this prednisone weight, exercising more frequently and in a low impact way. like changing my diet to include more fruits veggies and lean protein and less junk. like adopting a more positive and proactive way of managing my life and my families lives. all of these things are important to staying of top of this and not letting it crush me into a depressed pit of self pity and agony.

i hope that this isnt the longest post

Hi Erica, welcome to the board. I'm sorry for what you're going through---I
think most of us have been there. The first year is definately the hardest
because it's so scary and it kind of takes over your life at first, but it does
get better and easier. Your story of trying to get a diagnosis is not
uncommon and in fact it has taken some people years, so good for you for
persisting and getting some relatively speedy help. There are all kinds of
therapies and miracles out there, so please don't be too quick to discount
the internet as a source of information.

This board has a lot of collective knowledge, so if you have any questions
just ask and you're sure to get a bunch of answers. Hang in there! The two
best bits of advice I got from people with RA when I was diagnosed were "Be
really nice to yourself" and "Live a happy life".

Welcome, Erica, your explanation of what happened to you is unreal! It reminds me of so many things I've been through in my life, not just about RA, but many other things too. YOU are sure right that you have to stick up for yourself, stick to your guns! I can see why you were so scared at first, as you were getting no help from 'the doctors'. Honestly, you got the run around. I think you were right that people were thinking you were a hypocondriac, as I got that same BS from my doc's office after heart surgery , YES heart surgery. My RA went ballistics and I had to keep going in for that, my Gen Practitioner didn't get it and his 'crew' were not helpful. I just started hanging out at my RD's office and didn't even include the GP. I was in screaming pain and even saw a Pain Management guy. 30 pill types including gabapinton in such large doses I fell in the shower! I finally got on 15 mgs of Prednisone which saved me.

You did not deserve this treatment, and I'd be mad as hell if I were you. But, I can see you are very brave and able to think of your little children and how you need to get this dang stuff under control and plan your life in the future.

I think now you are on the right track. So many of us have had this disease, or one like it, for years and are in various stages of dealing with it. We all take pretty serious medications to protect our joints and are constantly adjusting them , depending on how they are working for us.  

I hope you will let us know what kind of drugs are prescribed for you, as it helps us to know what response to give you. I took methotrexate for 10 years and it worked to control the damage to my joints and didn't cause me any problems. Now, because of the heart thing, (and the terrible flare afterwards) I'm taking Remicade, also. and just got off of the prednisone.

You are so wise to examine , and deal with the emotional side of this disease and you will find this forum its really full of wonderful, supportive, caring  people who understand and they are pleased to read your posts and get to know you.

WELCOME,sorry this stuff has gotten you, and please keep posting. As some say 'this is the beginning of our journey together. Lynda

^thanks guys!  gimpy, i understand what you are saying about the internet.  it has been a  good sourse of info for me now that i have an answer and  a different more realistic idea of where i stand with RA, aka no joint damage yet and what the plans are to prevent it as long as possible.  i think though that when i was still in the dark, like labs were out still, and i had  no idea what i was facing, being the curious person that i am i turned to the net and got the scary pessimistic side of RA.  you know the worst prognosis and ten years down the road version and it scared me and intimidated me.  i think now that i have some preliminary answers i can better evaluate what really pertains to me and what i am facing.  knowledge is power, but knowledge in the hands of someone like me with  really no clue yet what my personal situation was the knowledge caused crippling fear, paralyzing anxiety and caused more stress than was necessary.  if i'd been a good little girl and waited to talk to my dr and find out my results before i scoured the web i might not have been so easily brought down by  the information and it would have been more powerful like it is now. 

lynda i will definitely update you guys, i have an appointment friday.  i had to call my dr today bc i was having some bad side effects from the prednisone like my gums were bleeding really badly when i breshed (easily and with a soft brush) bruising super easily from the slightest contact and oddly my hair began falling out!  like when i brushed gobs and gobs of hair were coming out.  he backed me down a lil from the prednisone but said the hair thing was strange, that usually people grow more hair, like facial hair :(  he said friday we would discuss the drugs out there and start one of those. 

i have a few questions, mainly about my labs...as i said (thank the lord) my xrays are still normal!  woot, but i had several markers of inflammation that were abnormal...sed rate, crp, ana, RF again (43, then 47), and the anti-ccp test was strongly positive at 127.  <- i couldnt find what a normal ccp was?  i saw somewhere that someone with severe RA had a ccp of almost 400 so i wasn't sure what mine suggested other than being a step closer to a 100% diagnosis and also that in the long run i was more likely to have aggressive and erosive ra. 

also what side effects did you have with the drugs you were prescribed, prednisone and the other immunosuppresive drugs? 

pain-up til now i have had what he called palindromic rheumatism where the pain comes and goes like waves.  he said this is early RA.  but for you guys that have full blown RA what is your pain like all day everyday stiff painful cant wash your own hair pain.  or just mild stiffness and junk with periods of severe pain.  do the meds help keep the pain away completely?  do you have more severe flares where nothing works? 

i noticed the prednisone (aka the devil drug) made the cycles of pain smaller for me.  while i still had stiffness swelling and pain, the pain is less severe and lasts a lesser amount of time.  however i am a ragin lunatic when i take it.  like bipolar mood swings and my husband is taking the brunt of it.  not to mention my face looks like a pizza and given the fact that i am a ravenous raging bear most days haivng my face resemble a pizza is a very bad thing!  i am telling you i wanted to eat everything in sight.  this low dose i have been on recently however has made my stomach hurt so bad that i had no appetite.  it was the tapering 6 or 10 day doses that made me a monster eater.  can you guys tell me how it affected you.  i tried telling hubz that my mood has to do with that darn pred but he is starting to look skeptical lol! 

treatment makes a big difference in pain levels.  it is difficult to predict how you will do as each case of RA is individual.  Getting the disease caught and treated early is a HUGE advantage in preventing damage.

Print out a list of side effects of pred for your husband.  That is the drug we love to hate.  It does wonders for the inflammation but its list of side effects is ugly..and almost everyone gets some kind of side effect from pred.  Most rheumatologists now want to keep pred fro a short term treatment so part of your goal should be to find another treatment so that you can wean off the pred.

I know that the diagnositic process can be frustrating.  As you discovered the early symptoms can resemble so many other things.  It is only when they can be evaluated collectively, and sometimes it takes a while for them to appear, that a clearer picture appears

< =text/>_popupControl(); Hi and welcome to the board!!  What a road you have been on to get to us! Wow! 

I am going to *try* and answer some of your questions...hopefully I can lol.  AS far as the pain goes...it jsut really depends on the day.  It can be all day..stiffness can last all day.  It is just so varied and different between person to person and just really what kind of day it is.  There are days I can't move.  Then there are days where all I take is my maintenance dose of pain meds.  It is the hope of the docs and us that the meds do keep the pain away.  That is really the goal.  If you have no pain you either have gone into remission or the meds have calmed everything down a whole lot.  I can only speak for me where I have had severe flares (just spent 4 days in the hospital from one) where nothing does work and I have been hospitalized for flares.  That has happened twice this year. Even on the meds you can have flares.  A lot of times those are weather related or you might have really just pushed yourself too far.  When I was on meds that were working..I would still flare with the weather.  They just weren't really bad flares.  Not enough to really keep me down.  Just enough to make life a little uncomfy.

Wow...you really had some bad side effects to pred.  I usually just get sick lol.   Yes, pred can affect your moods and the ability to think properly.  When I was on 60 mg of pred...I was just a mess.  My moods..I couldn't the words from my brain to my mouth or fingers lol.  What really can work is just telling your family that you are going to be moody and when you get out of hand..to please gently remind that you are getting out of hand and to just sit down...relax...take a deep breath...and start over.  I'm on 30 mg onow and doing much much better lol.  Ah yes, the pred munchies.  Very common.  And you will find yourself craving weird and unusual things at weird and unusual times of the day.  I had to have pancakes and over easy eggs at 11pm last night lol.  My hubby being the good guy he is...made it for me lol. It was really make it or deal with a cranky wife lol. 

As far as side effects from the dmards and biologics...those can vary from person to person but generally they are the same types of side effects.  Intensity just varies.  Folic acid helps to decrease the side effects from MTX.  I do still have some hair loss from it tho.  However, I don't get the mouth sores.  Your doc should prescribe folic acid along with mtx if that is what he prescribes for you.  MTX is famous for tummy upset, fatigue, and hair loss.  I avoid the tummy upset by injecting mtx instead of doing the pills.  For me..the side effects from the biologics has really just been fatigue and a loss of appetite from the remicade infusions. 

I cant really answer your lab questions but I can tell you this about labs.  It doesn't matter really what your labs are because that is just one diagnostic tool of many to use with RA.  Some people like me...are what they call sero-negative...where the Rh factor does not show but they have a mild to severe case of RA.  And the other labs can also be relatively low but you have a raging case of RA.  I was just in the hospital and all my labs were only slightly elevated.  But that also tells me that the 2 remicade infusions I have had are working.  Some people just don't show this disease in lab work. 

Erica - and start an excel spreadsheet with all your blood tests so you can watch for patterns.  Good luck and we are all pulling for you in here ~~ Cathy

Welcome Erica!!  I'm a newbie around here myself.

I remember feeling a lot of the same stuff and going through the same emotions.  Most days I'm pretty "up beat" and positive, but some days not so much.  Like yesterday.  It's been cold and rainy for three days, and my left arm is useless.  Riding home in the car with my 13 yr old son after his karate class, i just broke down.  Every day I tell myself "suck it up", but somedays it just gets the better of me.  And i've decided that that's ok.  It's ok to have a day now and then where I can say "poor me, bless my heart".   Like skittles said once on another thread, pitty parties are ok, but like all parties they must come to an end, and we move on.  It sounds like you have an excelent attitude, and I for one am a strong believer that attitude makes a ton of difference.  I too recently embarked on a quest to eat healthier and get what ever exercise my body will let me.  More veggies and fruits, less junk food and fast food.  Stuff thats good for me and good for my body.  I've found out there's a wealth of combined knowledge here.  And you're right, RA is personal.  But also it IS different for everybody, which makes this board such a life-saver.  What ever you're feeling, whatever you're going through, you can be sure that somebody here has been through or experienced the same thing.  Take care of yourself!!!

meldozRA39380.2905902778

Hi Erica..welcome!

Palindromic?!?!?!  I'm Palindromic! 

www.palindromic.org

In my opinion (I'm not a doc) you have a REALLY good chance of beating this.

www.roadback.org

Pip

Hi Erica,

I'm 32 and just been recently diagnosed beginning of October so I know exactly how you feel.

Just keep in mind that now you will get the treatment to control this disease and you need to keep a positive attitude.

It really makes a difference!

I am sending you tons of positive vibes from sunny Panama!!!

< =text/>_popupControl(); Panama!!  How neat!! I don't think I welcomed you to the board.  So...welcome to the board!!! 

Hi Erica glad you are here. My heart went out to you when I read your post. I was diagnosed with sero-neg RA and fibro this year so I know this is alot to take in. Hopefully your RD will get you going in the right direction. I started with MTX , really kept me nauseous all day so I went off of that . I am now on enbrel and sulfasalazine and doing fairly well.

 Just a note on your hairloss I was on prednisone 10 mg ( a fairly low dose ) for about 6 months..My hair started to fall out about 5 months into it. I have been off for about 3 months and finally it has stopped. I read that just having an autoimmune disease like RA can cause your hair to fall out too.

I wish you  much luck at your appointment tomorrow. Take Care !  

Hi Erica and welcome.  It made me sad to read your post and see you are a young woman with a family and job to deal with along with your RA.  I have a special awe and respect for those who are dealing with all these things at once....I don't know how you all cope.  Being retired, I can rest when I need to (except when my grand-daughter is here for a few days each month) and I can't imagine having to show up at a job or school function when I was feeling so bad.  My heart goes out to all of you and my hat is off to you as well for handling this multiple load so well. 

You also have a very mature, positive attitude about this whole issue and I feel certain you're going to do very well in the end.  For the young people on these boards, I really believe there will be a cure that will keep you all from having to deal with this for the rest of your lives.  That is the one positive thing about being young with RA, if you have to have it at all.  Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.

Welcome Erica. All our stories are similar and yet so different (how querky is that?

I took advice before I went on holiday and had a couple of steriod shots, I dont take the tabs on a daily basis... thank goodness. I started Sulpha a couple of months ago. I have been very sick, lost hair, and weight, had boils and ulcers but I have to report that my body (as I was told it would), has adapted and generally I feel good.

The caring, sharing nature of this site is fantastic. There is lots of support when you need it, and we're always open to questions that need researching (there's a lot of people who love researching on the site).

A psychologist colleague of mine who has had RA all his life  said that the our bodies get used to the drugs, eventually, but it takes our minds much longer to accept our bodies new limitations and that once we are able to accept our 'normal has changed', things will get easier to bear. I think your positive attitude is already helping you and we're all here when the down times come.

 

Welcome Erica!!!

I'm fairly new here too and am so glad and happy that I came across this fantastic forum! 

I was diagnosed with RA when I was 5, making me not so helpful with discovering it at a later age.  I consider myself lucky that I was so young as I don't know anything different.

I am so sorry to hear of the runaround the doctors gave you!!  One of my sons has some medical issues and I know the bologna they can put you through!  The only thing I can tell you is to do what you have already been doing.   If you don't like what one doctor said, then go to another, then another, then another, until you are satisfied!  Even your rheumy!  I've gone through 4 of them until I found the one that clicked with me (and he is absolutly fabulous!!).  A couple of them worked in the same office together but they rubbed me the wrong way or I just flat out didn't like them or how they treated me.  If you don't like how you're being treated, there are many more fishies in the ocean!!  Don't settle for one just because it was the one you were refered to, settle for one that you like and will work for you and WITH you.

This is a rough disease and can make you have more ups and downs than the ocean's waves.  I have 4 kids (14, twin 8's and 6) and know how hard it is to manage life and kids and the house and a job (when I had one) and this disease.  Some days are great and you forget you have this horrible condition and other days you'll be down and out for the count.  Stay positive and keep your chin up and chat with us!  There are a lot of wonderful people here who are willing to help you and go through everything that you are.  Keep us posted on how you're doing!!
[QUOTE=justsaynoemore]Erica - and start an excel spreadsheet with all your blood tests so you can watch for patterns.  Good luck and we are all pulling for you in here ~~ Cathy[/QUOTE]

ohhhhh THIS IS a GREAT idea!!!

wow can i just say what a godsend you guys are!  seriously!  i cried like i had just seen a huggies commercial when i read all of your supportive and welcoming replies!  you guys are true survivors and have been through so much!  i feel really ignorant to alot of the lingo and stuff, but i am sure it will all fall into place soon enough!

honestly hearing about all of your struggles and suffering and overcoming what seems like an insurmountable obstacle has really strengthened my hope for myself and my family!  i was so afraid about the future when i first found out it was ra yet you guys seem so strong and resilient and even on a bad day there is the forum to rant to!!!  thank you guys so much not only for the words of encouragement but also for making this such an open and active place to get info and education and support!  i am so glad i found yall!!!!
 

Welcome to the Board, Erica!

 

Welcome Erica and the other good people I think I missed welcoming.

I have had some good, some bad days. The weather really bothers me as does my time of the month when Aunt Flo comes for a visit. LOL My dx is just over two years ago and I am still working on the right combination of meds. I have been taking humira for months and have noticed I have more energy and less morning stiffness. I have damage in my right hand and left foot. I also have had bursitis in hip. One thing I have noticed since being afflected by ra is you must have patience (that is really hard for me). A journel for yourself and dr is a good idea to keep track of aches, pains, and swelling, etc.

I am so glad you found this site. SOOOO many people are going through the same thing and can offer so much insight, compassion, and excellent advice.

Best wishe


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