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Hi -- I'm new to these boards and as I read the posts, I'm struck by all of you in your 40s who mention that your doctors want you to wait for replacement surgery because you're too young.  My ortho says that at 44, I'm definitely on the young side for replacement, but he's not going to let my age stand in the way -- sure, I'll probably have to have another replacement somewhere down the road, but the advantage of replacing them now would be that I'm still young enough and in good enough shape to become active again and really enjoy the new knees!  We're going to try to buy some time with Synvisc, but if that doesn't work, I'll go under the knife next year. 

Other than replacements not lasting indefinitely, is there another reason doctors should want to avoid replacement on people on the younger side?  Just want to make sure I'm not missing something.  Thanks. 

Well I can only tell you what 3 doctors have told me about hip replacement.  Wait until it is seriously impacting your quality of life.  I am 49 and my right hip is beyond ready for replacement, my right knee is close behind, and all indications are that the left side is slowly but surely heading the same way.

The problem with replacement in your 40's is that you will be active and really "use" your new joints - unlike most elderly patients.  The joints will wear out for us more quickly than they will for older recipients.  When it comes time to do a second replacement, it is much more difficult to do, with a much lower success rate.

My doctors recognize that I won't make it to the desired age of 60, but they do want me to wait as long as I can.  I'm trying to hold out as long as I can.  With all of us baby boomers aging, the need for joint replacement is skyrocketing, and a lot of research is being done to find better methods or alternatives.  Maybe something better is right around the corner!

The reason they want to wait as long as possible is because with each time you have a replacement the recover is harder and they can only do one and maybe 2 revisions. So if you have your first one young (40) and it wears out in 15 years, at 55 you have your next one and then what happens when it wears out? Some people dont get even 15 years. If you have complications you could be looking at a revision in the first year. It is not a surgery that you canjust keep having over and over again.

But, I do think having replacements is a good option if your arthritis keeps you from living your life and it has effected your mobility to the point you cant walk. I was diagnosed in my late 20s with OA and we did everything imaginable to put off replacements until I was in my 50s. I had one last year, and still need the other knee done, but I am waiting for a while yet to have it. Also I have found there are still many things I cannot do with this knee even after replacement. Personally, I think the expectations of this surgery are to high. The reality is you will gain back mobility, but you will always know you dont have a real knee in there, and once they are replaced you just have a whole other set of issues to deal with. Atleast that has been my experience. I still cannot, kneel, squat, put any direct pressure at all on that knee. no running, jumping or any activities that can damage the replacement. 

I am very thankful I had mine replaced but Im also glad I waited as long as I did. This is not a surgery one wants to keep having over and over again.

The doc told me at age 28 that my knee was completely distroyed from arthritis. Over the years I had 3 arthroscopy surgeries and many injections, trying ot buy more time. 

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Yep, those are the reasons the surgeon told me he would scope my knees every year if they needed it.  I would hate to have to repeat any surgery, but I do know that if I can keep on top of the knees than they will last a little longer.  My hip is not to the place that it needs to be, but I am concerned about the ankles though. 

 

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The reason they want to wait as long as possible is because with each time you have a replacement the recover is harder and they can only do one and maybe 2 revisions. So if you have your first one young (40) and it wears out in 15 years, at 55 you have your next one and then what happens when it wears out? Some people dont get even 15 years. If you have complications you could be looking at a revision in the first year. It is not a surgery that you canjust keep having over and over again.

But, I do think having replacements is a good option if your arthritis keeps you from living your life and it has effected your mobility to the point you cant walk. I was diagnosed in my late 20s with OA and we did everything imaginable to put off replacements until I was in my 50s. I had one last year, and still need the other knee done, but I am waiting for a while yet to have it. Also I have found there are still many things I cannot do with this knee even after replacement. Personally, I think the expectations of this surgery are to high. The reality is you will gain back mobility, but you will always know you dont have a real knee in there, and once they are replaced you just have a whole other set of issues to deal with. Atleast that has been my experience. I still cannot, kneel, squat, put any direct pressure at all on that knee. no running, jumping or any activities that can damage the replacement. 

I am very thankful I had mine replaced but Im also glad I waited as long as I did. This is not a surgery one wants to keep having over and over again.

The doc told me at age 28 that my knee was completely distroyed from arthritis. Over the years I had 3 arthroscopy surgeries and many injections, trying ot buy more time. 


Celine, I wanted to have your posting here to answer it as I read it with great interest and can identify with what you have gone through.  I had double hip replacements at the age of 52 and walked with a cane and one crutch and then two for ten years.  I had cemented joints and not bone ingrowths as I am very thin and petite and have such bad osteoarthritis he felt my bones were not strong enough.  Having taken three years to get totally off of an assisted device (cane or crutches, I have never been without pain.  A year and a half ago my right knee started hurting and I found out it was almost ready for replacement...now the left is worse then the right....I am in constant pain and frustrated and some days can barely walk.  I found that good sneakers help support me so I can walk with less pain and do my shopping, etc., cooking. I like New Balance wide shoes and style #504 and #609 seem to be the most comfortable for me. I have had cortisone injections and am done with those as the relief was short lasting. I find it of interest that you state the artifical knee is nothing like your real knee and it is noticeable.  I am not anxious to have more surgery and pray every day to go as long as I can.   Thanks for letting me vent...
JCG

I'm 62 years old and from the day I was diagnosed to surgery was one year.  I couldn't drive either my car or my husband's because both had clutches.  My left knee was very painful and would crunch and grind when I put in the clutch.  I didn't drive for a year and didn't golf for several years due to pain and lack of stability.  I fell 3 times in the year prior to the replacement. 

Needless to say, I was looking forward to having a new knee and my expectations were less than Celine's.  All I wanted to do was drive my car, golf, walk up and down hills, hike, ride my bike and just keep up with my friends and family.  My new knee has exceeded any expectations that I had.  I'm able to do everything and anything.  Sure, I can't squat, get down on my knees, but I do everything else.  At my age I don't want to squat or get on my knees and wash the kitchen floor.  I do play pickle ball (an active senior's version of tennis) where I lunge and run some.  Most likely I'll be a candidate for another knee sooner than later but by that time I'll be 72 and surgical implants and technique will be better than ever.  I'm going to have the other one replaced in about 18 months or as long as Synvisc injections work.  LindyHi, the Road Back Foundation treats arthritis with Minocycline, many have good success with this protocol. I have had excellent success with treating a sudden flare of Osteoarthritis.
 
The RBF just put in a new message board. http://www.rbfbb.org/
 
Ron
Hi,
I have had a total right hip replacement at the age of 53.(2002)
I have to say it was the right decision to have it done. It was amazing that the next day after surgery I was able to stand with absolutely no pain.
I now have my life back. The only activity I cannot do is run.
Hi
My name is Sharon. [lyme_arthritis] I live in S.E. North Carolina...by way of Cape Cod,MA
I am new to this group and just had an appointment yesterday with a new Ortho/Surgeon.
I am 48 years old, severe osteo in my knees, hips and elbows from lyme disease and my surgeon did everything he could to 'talk me out of' knee replacement surgery at my age.
He said I could end up not only needing a second surgery but probably a third if I start now.
He even commented that "This is how I make my money, through surgery" but talked me out of it. So instead I opted for cortizone injections, anti-inflammatories and pain management with PT. Then I bought myself a new cane.
My knees are in terrible shape. Pain every day. I am not a candidate for the new biological drugs because I am also a cancer survivor and a side effect of the new drugs can be Lymphoma. I am allergic to aspirin and codeine.
Right now I use Tramadol for pain, but it makes me walk in my sleep if I take it anytime after 4PM.[seriously]
I walk every day...even though it nearly kills me.
Is there anyone else here with chronic lyme disease or lyme arthritis?
I look forward to many helpful discussions and I hope this forum is the right place for me to be. Thanks.
Sharon
 
To Hillhoney...
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Hi Sharon,
 
I have Lyme arthritis, a x-ray in 2000 showed hip damage and a recent x-ray showed no damage. I give credit to Minocycline which was offered to me by a rheumatologist in 1987 for chronic Lyme borreliosis.
 
If you feel feel that your Lyme is causing ongoing infection you might want to check out The Roadback Foundation which you can find on my Osteo page in my sig.
 
I also get a kick out of Hillhoney's sig every time I look at it.
 
Good Luck!
 
Ron

I am just shy of my 37th birthday and was diagnosed with severe OA in my left knee, moderate (but quickly deteriorating) OA in my right knee and moderate OA in my neck and lumbar spine in conjunction with spondylosis at the L4/L5 about 2 years ago. With the exception of my knees, I can tolerate the daily pain with the help of Aleve and not doing anything too stupid.

I was medically separated from the Army after two scopes (one for a cleaning and lateral release, the other to do a picking to create fibro-cartilage to correct an Osteochondral Defect) and VA first said they wanted to perform a replacement (as stated by an ortho resident) and now they don’t (as stated by the ortho attending) due to my age. I have done my rounds with Cortizone and Synvisc, and he mentioned something about Halican (sp?) (another 3 shot series). The other two normally only provided 2-5 days of relief, with the effects normally kicking in after 6-12 hours, but the pain in conjunction with the injection just hasn’t been worth the “gain”.

The attending did a great job of explaining the issues with a replacement at my age and the complications with multiple revisions, but I really would like to hear from everyone who has had a TKR if they regret not having their procedure done earlier or if they are glad they waited as long as they did. The attending did say that he would go through with the procedure, but with grave reservations.

Thanks a lot for any input, and advice.

Folks,
 
Good morning!  Just wanted to say that I am 52 years old and 10 days post knee replacement surgery. 
 
I have no regrets due to the terrible quality of life I had before.  If I can help anyone with their fears and questions, please let me know.
 
Gina

My husband got his bilateral knee joint replacements when he was 62 because he could no longer walk with those old knees and had had all the cortisone shots he could have.  That was done in Dec. 15 years ago and, thus far, he is having no trouble with the knees, other joints, yes, but not those knees.  He tells everyone that it's the only way to do it and that the follow-up therapy is critical to doing well and walking well afterward.  His doctors told him that he could be the poster boy for knee joint replacement.  I had my knee replacements when I was 42 and 43.  Within 2 and a half years I went from fit and healthy to bone on bone.  It took me 3 GP's and  4 surgeons to finally decide that what I needed was a replacement not another scope.  I am 50 now and have had a great result with my knees.  I was to the point that we were talking about putting a ramp up to the front of the house and making it wheelchair friendly.  I know that down the road I will need to have the replacements revised but as my surgeon said,,,, it's about quality of life.  If you are ready to have it done because you can't keep going as you are, then it is time.  I am looking at hip surgery sometime soon, maybe not a replacement yet, but surgery all the same.  I will be young but I would rather be active than in a wheelchair for 10 more years while I wait 'to be old enough'.  My mother had her first hip replacement 24 years ago and has had no trouble at all. 

I am definitely happy I had the knees done and would do it again in a heartbeat.
Dear pammy416,
 
I was so relieved to see your post regarding your knee replacements. I am 43 years old and have OA in both knees.  I've had two surgeries on my right knee, the first a scope for a patella shave & lateral release.  The first surgery actually made things worse and 1 year later I ended have a partial (patella) replacement.  Two years later I am still miserable and in pain every second of every day.  I have 3 children, two of whom are young, and I feel like I can't do anything with them.  My quality of life is completely affected by this.  The doctor that did my partial replacement has told me that I should wait until I am at least 50 to have a total.  I don't know if I can live with the pain for 7 more years!  I have recently seen another orthopaedic surgeon and I will be going back to see him next week for my MRI consultation.  They told me that I definately have fraying of the meniscus and possibly a tear, which I know can be fixed by doing a scope.  The problem is that I don't know if I even want to try that.  I'm so frustrated at this point that I just want to tell them to just do the replacement and get rid of everything!  I don't care so much about the loss of mobility from the replacement as I do having to live in pain every day.  I guess my question to you is, having been through this yourself, are you absolutely satisfied with your decision to have the replacement at your age?  Thanks in advance for your response! 
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A study conducted by the Rothman Institute which it presented during the 2010 American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons' annual meeting showed that hip replacement procedures are now performed on younger and more active patients. Additionally, the life expectancy of Americans is getting higher. This change in trend should spur major industry changes regarding hip replacement devices. Hopefully, sturdier and longer-lasting implants would be manufactured to support this change.

However, typical devices usually last 15 to 20 years. And each revision surgery you undergo is more difficult than the previous one. Not to mention recovery and rehabilitation takes much longer. You might be looking at a life in your 80's having increased trouble doing activities. Unless your hip gives you a huge pain in the  neck, you may want to hold off on a hip replacement surgery. " I look forward to have a new knee and my expectation is less than Celine. All I want to do is drive my car, golf, hill walking, hiking, biking, just me and my friends and family. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/knee-replacement/MY00091
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