Slightly OT: Over-vaccinated | Arthritis Information

Interesting article at huffingtonpost.com

Quotes from the article:

"I'm also starting to think that we should follow the lead being set in veterinary medicine. Studies have provided evidence that the over-vaccination of dogs and cats can result in numerous maladies including cancer, skin and ear conditions, arthritis, allergies, diabetes, aggression, behavior problems and other immune system dysfunctions."

"So here we have several recent findings that all contradict previously long held medical beliefs and raise more questions about the unintended consequences of overuse of some medications and over vaccinating and perhaps the over marketing of these treatments by pharmaceutical companies.

Far too often we are beginning to see physician prescribed drugs (like Vioxx and thalidomide) and vaccines (like the whole cell DPT and Rotovirus) thrust upon the public that are later found to be unsafe."

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And this is precisely why I am vehemently opposed to mandatory vaccination for chicken pox and papillomavirus. Chickenpox, while quite contagious, is more of an economic problem than a public health risk... even the CDC states that one of its main benefits is to prevent a disease that causes parents to miss work caring for their chickenpox-infected children. I say let the families make the choice. Some children who have serious medical conditions (immune disorders, ecxema, etc) should probably get the vaccination, but why forcibly overload all children with another vaccine?

And the papillomavirus vaccine is brought to us by the same company that gave us Vioxx.Jasmine - I love this topic. At first I thought you were going to suggest rabies shots, but I see its on the very meaningful discussion of how vaccines can help and/or harm. The DPT vaccine is a perfect example. It was allowed to only go through one cleaning of the pertussion part, where other civilized countries like Japan mandate a two cleaning system. The pertussion vaccine is a "dirty cell" vaccine because it costs $$$ to run it through a second time. And I have personal knowledge of this as a good friend took her perfectly healthy girl in for her scheduled DPT shot and within two hours she was completely paralyzed and can only blink. That was over 30 years ago now. Disgusting. I like this topic too. I think we way over vaccinate babies. My second
grand daughter was born on an airforce base in Texas. I remember my
daughter telling me she was taking her in to get 8 vaccinations in one
day. I threw a fit. She did it anyway. How could that be good for a new
baby? They even gave her the Hepatitis B vaccine. I strongly feel that my
health went down the tubes after the Hep B vaccine that I was strongly
encouraged for my job. I think I could have done with out it. I don't feel
my risk was any greater than that of the general public. I think we will
get much more information in the future of the potential problems of
these vaccines. We have a policy where I work that we give flu and
pneumococcal vaccines to all patients who are admitted. The last thing I
want when I'm ill, is an immunization and pediatricians are hesitant to do
this when a baby is ill. We as nurses have questioned this practice but it
is an administration rule, not one imposed by the physicians. So now we
have people in the business office deciding what is best for a sick patient.
I make sure that I let each and every patient know they have every right to
refuse. Many of them do. Anyway. Good topic.I am so worried about the HPV vaccine, just because we have to decide very soon if we want it for our older daughter. By the time my little one needs it, I think there will be much more post-market info out there and we will have a better idea what to do.

My older one was in the first round of chicken pox vaccines, and also the first round of kids to discover they wear off. She never had a booster, we were never told she needed one, and she got chicken pox (interestingly, right after my younger daughter had her first chickenpox vaccine). [QUOTE=Suzanne]I am so worried about the HPV vaccine, just because we have to decide very soon if we want it for our older daughter. By the time my little one needs it, I think there will be much more post-market info out there and we will have a better idea what to do.

My older one was in the first round of chicken pox vaccines, and also the first round of kids to discover they wear off. She never had a booster, we were never told she needed one, and she got chicken pox (interestingly, right after my younger daughter had her first chickenpox vaccine). [/QUOTE]

If I had a daughter, I personally would hold off on the vaccine. Cervical cancer is a definite, real risk... but it is also very preventable and treatable with regular checkups. Pre-cancerous lesions can be removed before they cause trouble; early cervical cancer has a very high cure rate. Not enough is known about the vaccine at this point for me.
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I think this is a great topic also. When my oldest was 11 months and 29 days( 1 day shy of 12 months ) He was given his MMR , we were stationed at Fort Knox with the army at the time. Me being a young monther listened to everything the doctors would say. Well when he went back at 13 months I was told that he was given the MMR 1 day early so therefore It was not acceptable and they re vaccinated him that day. Somebody was crazy! Does one day actually constitute too early? LIke I stated who was I to question this. About 1 year later he started showing signs of diabetes and sure enough he was diagnosed IDDM. It was a horrible time, no one in either of our families have had diabetes , not type one. I could blame the disease on any number of things but that worthless 2 nd MMR has me wondering.

He is now soon to be 19 and handles diabetes well but could I have prevented this?