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MAybe off topic maybe pred related. Geuss steriods can cause diabetes. And vitamin deficiancy B 6 and biotin can cause hypoglyciemia and there are even auto immune insulin syndrome and auto immune hypoglycmia. Anyway now i know when my pupils are dialated for no reason it is hypoglycimia. Well besides blood work all of this stuff i thought was RA related was indeed hypoglycimia. Shakiness sweating pins and needles fatigue how is one with RA to know? Dialated pupils. Staring glassy eyes. Well one could go crazy trying to figure out whats wrong with them. As i am supposed to tell the docs if i feel like i have potasium deficiency or low or high blood sugar. Well i have symtom for all most of the time. I am going to have to purchase my own blood lab. LOL

Can you PM me any of the info you found on AI hypothyroidism and AI insulin syndrome.  I'm guessing the last one is LADA but if not...I NEED the info.  This is what my husband is going thru.

You'd be surprised how many of our meds can cause other diseases.  Or replicate the symptoms we have.  Check out the side effect profile for protonix if you want to scare yourself to death.  That one did it for for me. 

Hugs,

Pip

Still reading and am pretty sick PIPERS. Oh AI hypoglycima rare but very interesting. The words never mind printing them, come to mind. Yes LADA sounds pretty much like it. And education of how to keep up on sick days, yes i need that. CAn not even blame the pred. I was remembering being sick i was about 15 and a Mormon kid i think they called them Mormon elders but he was a kid told my Mom my pupils where dialated. Well i said i do not know i took some sulfa antibiotics and a tylonol as i had strep was all. Non obiese type 2 symptems with symtems of type one sounds like me. As i had been tested a few months back maybe six or seven months ago and a few times over the years. but you have to catch it right even now it is my blood sugar has been flying around high and low. And i had a female doc and a female RD and was fighting with them a flare or two ago and even my Tsh 4 or whatever to fevery to get this alright today. was even out of range and tehy said probably a mistake at the lab. Fired them both after begging and crying for help and the nurses laughed at me. They at time refused to test me for any AI disease as had been tested for everything a few years prior and said take your flexeril. And even they said i was complaining about medicine side effects. Well i have teh Omacor for thyriod. blood sugar and high cholesterol but it makes me pee and my potasium gets to low. Sort of conflicting. She did not even want to check my cholesterol she said oh you are to young why should we check it. Went to new doc. Well because it was 290 all bad and no good. Like i would lie that i had always had high cholesterol. That is the only cosistant thing i do. My blood work one day is thyriod then investigate mysteriously better, then liver enzymes mysteriosly better. Maybe it takes a few months but things go away and everyone scratches there head. That would be nice if all went away. So now this scares me i had dialated pupils at age 15 and i got pregnant at age 15 the poor boy he has problems, we had to work hard at trying to get him well and functional , very , very hard. He wieghed 7lbs 3oz and next son wieghed 9 lbs 3oz signifigant difference as to how my body changes. So i have been right about the sugar problems. I just ate well and excersised walked a few miles a day when able. But all the fruit or the flare is bringing this to a head. Or i did not complain enough. You know you do the fasting test and you feel like an idiot but you know what is wrong and people convince you that you are nuts or something. It is not probably the pred at all. The raise in pred for allergic reaction helped if anything. But i am lowering now and just infection is bad i am confused at what to eat. I am tired and not hungry. But i am trying to do the right thing and eat well. PIP when i feel a bit better i will let you know what i figure out. My stupid antibiotic i can not take the vitamin because of the iron and binding. Aggg. But the other antibiotics where not strong enough. Sorry your hubby is going threw this. Just googling myself at the moment. I see the specialist soon. Thats all i know. And if i am dieing before that go to the hospital. Arggg. So i know potasium will drop but i can not help that just stay on top of it. I am just frustrated about lack of knowledge and not knowing what to do to fix all of this it is to confusing for me. I change from one problem to the next everyday is different. Hard to keep up. My shrink said so you are a little high mantainance nothing wrong with that. I guess that would be a good way of looking at it.

We just found out my niece with Ulcerative Colitus (spelling?) has super high cholesterol.  Hmmmm.  Mycoplasma live in plaques - heart, brain, fibroids, fibrosis, kidney stones, gall stones - I mean, it appears to my totally non-scientific mind that the body is trying to 'isolate' these things. 

JSNM says the thyroid is the 'canary in the coal mine' - and I agree with her.  Like you, I had something going on with my thyroid - but my doc (since fired) refused to test further.  I wonder if they would have caught this in the beginning would I have been able to avoid all this?

Keep on the probiotics - just saw something (can't for the life of me find it LOL) that said HALF of our immunity is made in the gut with processing of the foods we eat.  You can eat banana's until the cows come home - but without enough good bacteria to convert it into fuel for your cells - no way are you going to get enough patassium into your body.  You'll just pass the 'unused' potassium out.

Sigh,

Pip

I know i have been reading on bacteria and the stomache i believe it is a good thing to take probiotocs i really do. It is just I got so sick when i was taking them. And so i am not taking everyday but some and seem to be doing better. I am sensitive. I wish i could be normal i am just not. I honestly thought they improved my mood, fixed my skin, made my tummy feel better. But my blood sugar plumitted and so did my potasium. And well that would scar anyone. I am taking it slow. Heck it even scared my doctors. Well it made me super hungry and i was eating everything in sight like a sick person that could not stop. But i do not remember i was maybe eating the wrong stuff? It was crazy! Maybe knowing what to eat that is potasium and alot of it. The pred is the only thing helping blood suger i think. Diet it isn't working must be the AI kind. That is all i can figure out. I think i need some probiotic but not so much my thiamine needs a place to land. But for other things like biotin and vk sure ther eare others it is a good thing. I think a happy medium. But i was reading self allergy. Partial sleenectomy, partial pancreatic removal. Sure PIP i would rather take a probiotic, you know if it will work i will try anthything. milly39454.4689930556Anyway my new doc is not trying to be stubborn he knows i am sick. I get tested for everything next week. My doc knows i am complicated and need a specialist. Well the sad thing is i had one and was reading old blood work. Well the thyriod thing it said low Free T4 is associated with serious illness and a higher mortality rate. And most of my RA titiers are the positive negetive kind. But when i was fighting with the specialist i had an RF score of 13. I mean 14 would have solved the argument. Of course it is higher now. So i will see how the thyriod is holding up. It was all crazy few years back except for relationship to calcium was good. Except for the low free T4. They thought i might be alright but every part of it was low or high on the thyriod and graves disease is big in my family so is high cholesterol but i get that from my grams and her mom, and hardening of the arteries great grams died of at 83 and grams she almost died but they caught it in the nick of time i still have her she is 84 or 85. And my mom and her dad had the graves disease.Anyway i came up with this last night on my own so no responsibility on you my friend Pip. There is a window of oportunity were i can take my vitamins while taking the Cipro and i do not mind the probiotic if i am taking the vitamins. See i was not taking anything but vitamin c for a while because of the cipro. Then i was taking Keflex and vitamins but the infection came back, so back to cipro.  Anyway if i time everything just right it will work if i get to tired and sleep all of the time i am going to be in bad shape. I mean if i have the AI thing doubtful as to much of diet will help. This was a funny one i read that the antiboties attache themselves to pork and beef i think that was it. I remember All i wanted was ham. Just ham and alot of it. I was a ham eating frency girl. I ate some veggies and some bananas and rasins. But mostly ham. Good thing or bad thing i do not know? But usually we crave what we need. I have heard of iron defiencies and people craved dirt. But i know i was hypoglyciemic now because of the dialated pupils. Once my head dropped and i was barely concious as to what was going on and could hardly even breath. I was also feeling a bit manic had a headache, pins and needles sweaty and had a bad rash from the Arava and was rather tired. I thought the pred or meds had to do with the hunger surges. But if you can imagine hunger surges beyond that. What a belly ache. And this was going on for awhile not like one day or anything. But sort of come and goish like RA, what kind of day will this be. So i was just trying to tune into what i thought made me feel better and what did not. And it could be my body just does what it wants and could care less what i do.Milly -  There are so many symptoms you can have from RA and fibro - it effects everything in our body.  Sadly, it does not change a thing if we put a cause on our symptoms - at least for me - rarely does that change my treatment plan
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