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Ah...anybody preterm?  This is kind of amazing.  I have to think about this.

Pip

That's.........different......

 

So...what do they DO for it? They screen them, and then what? Is there a way to prevent yourself from even HAVING it, so the baby doesn't get it???

 

It almost sounds like this is a common "shrug your shoulders" thing that women have??? Am I wrong??

What I found so disturbing is that the testing is showing that somehow the babies are exposed to this stuff (pretty concretely if my interpretation is correct) but the longer time in the womb and more time to either 1) get some sort of natural defense against it, possibly from the mother or 2) the babies develop it themselves given more time.

This shows how this stuff could be 'heriditary'.  Heriditary, my pootootie!  It could be passed from parent to child.  This has mostly been theorized before...yet here it is.

Pip

I still don't think I'm really grasping it. I'm trying, but I guess the whole "80%" statistic is throwing me off.

Why are we just now figuring this out?

Because for years all this stuff was just theorized.  Dr. Brown said it...but everybody else thought he was a quack.  The 'your body is attacking itself' became the theory of choice. 

Then Dr. Barry Marshall proved that these tiny microbes lived in stomach acid.  And people started looking again.  Then they developed the Darkfield microscope and said..."whoa, what is that stuff".  So more and more people started looking into the infection connection and keep finding links.  Gee!

One problem is the myco tests are pretty much garbage.  We see that for RA all the time.  I bet as the tests get better it's going to be a lot more like 100%. 

I'm just wondering what is going on in the body that reduces the amount of these myco's?  It's got to be something that happens at the end of pregnancy.  But what?

Pip

What about those hormones that make your bones and cartiledge soft so you can give birth?  Don't those come on mostly in the end months?

Pip

Ooo I didn't even think about that!

 

So what about the poor women who DON'T get that, and are forced into C-Sections? (My cousin!!!)

 

 

So you're saying, you think, that the suckers are they 100% of the tme, we live with them and usually it's in harmony. It's only a danger to the baby. And our body knows it, so at some point before they're born, we rid ourselves of them. Or....we're supposed to anyway.

Yep, pretty much what I think.  :-)

But maybe not rid ourselves of them...maybe install some sort of protection.  Pretty much everybody has myco's but they don't necessarily get sick...depends on other things like good gut bacteria and stress and diet etc. 

My baby was C-section and she has an AI disease...but she was also on antibiotics twice in her first year...and nobody said anything about probiotics.  So...she had exposure in me...then lowered immunity...then....

I just can't believe they're checking the babies and finding this stuff...

Really makes you wonder how the hell anyone did it back in the day? Women giving birth out in covered wagons and sh*t!!! And their babies made it!!

What have we done to ourselves between then and now, to make so many of our kids so sick????

Okay, I am going to go way out on a limb here, and ask the question, do most mammals continue to have sex after a pregnancy starts, or is it only humans?  Perhaps its contracted from the man.  I bring this up because of the work on the theory that menstruation is for cleaning the womb monthly from all the toxins deposited from semen.  Sorry, a little out there, but if anybody knows about mammal sexuality and pregnancy and can shoot this sick idea on my part out of the water, it's appreciated.  C

Woah. That's actually a REALLY good question JSNM....

 

I bet Link might know!!!!

Some ancient cultures had ritualized 'cleansing' rituals after mense. 

And if you think about it...most dietary restrictions for religious purposes had a solid basis in science.

Pip

Ah....stealth pathogens come into their own. Thanks for the VERY
INTERESTING article, Pip!

Do you ever notice how often these days Dr Brown is finally vindicated? And
so far I haven't seen anything to disprove what he said, either.As far as I know aside of one particular primate, humans are the only "mammals" that have sex for any reason other than procreation.  My guess would be that animals do not mate when the female is pregnant.  I'll check that out for sure with my bro though.Didn't even have to ask him, some animals DO mate when the female is preggo.  I stand corrected.Hmmmmm well thats interesting either way!Linc, I think Katie outting you as the "expert" on the board about sex is well, interesting
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