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Seems like I remember see a discussion on this subject in the recent past but not sure that these facts were brought up, any way if so here it is again......................LEV

 

Hutch experts discover why pregnancy curbs arthritis

When Denise Swanson developed rheumatoid arthritis nearly three decades ago, it was like a sudden storm of pain, swelling and fatigue.

It was excruciating for the then-21-year-old college student just to pick up her backpack. She couldn't even write. Medication eased her pain and stiffness, but not much.

"I would move like an old lady," said Swanson, now a 49-year-old special-education teacher in Seattle. "It was scary."

But then a few years later Swanson and her husband, Tom, did something that happened to bring total relief from the devastating disease: They decided to have a baby. All of Swanson's symptoms disappeared about a month after she became pregnant.

"With all the things you're supposed to cope with in pregnancy, this was a joy," Swanson said. "I really did well. I felt like [my arthritis] had gone away forever."

Scientists — and many new mothers — have long known that pregnancy relieves rheumatoid arthritis. What hasn't been entirely clear is why.

Now researchers at Seattle's Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center have delved deeper toward an answer, for the first time identifying that DNA from dead cells naturally sloughing off the growing fetuses probably results in the pregnant women getting relief from their arthritis.

"The bottom line is we could see a specific effect on the arthritis," said Dr. Lee Nelson, an expert on pregnancy and immunology, and leader of the recent study reported in the journal Arthritis & Rheumatism.

"If we can understand this better, we could possibly work toward specific treatments for autoimmune diseases."

DNA

Rheumatoid arthritis occurs when the immune system attacks the synovial membrane, tissue that lines the joints. Some researchers believe this autoimmune reaction happens after an infection in someone who is genetically susceptible to arthritis.

The Fred Hutchinson scientists looked at the amount of DNA from the fetus circulating in the blood of 25 pregnant women with arthritis and found that the fetal DNA was plentiful in the blood of almost all the women. Those with higher DNA levels had significant relief from the disease. Four who had little or no relief had low levels of the DNA.

Then, about two to four months after delivery, almost all the women with arthritis relief experienced a return of the painful disease.

Pregnancy has also been known to relieve the symptoms of multiple sclerosis and Graves' disease, a thyroid disorder, both of which also are autoimmune diseases.

The Hutchinson scientists speculate that the fetal DNA acts as a sort of decoy: The mother's immune system focuses on the fetal DNA instead of the mother's synovial membrane cells. Immune cells decide the fetal DNA is OK, so they back off their attack on the mother's joints.

Fetal DNA is technically "foreign" to the body, but the immune cells are programmed not to attack DNA from cells that have died as the result of a natural process, rather than from infection or another cause, said Drs. Kristina Adams and Zhen Yan, other researchers on the study.

Swanson found arthritis relief through three pregnancies. But after each delivery — with Graham, now 20; Isaac, now 17; and Chris, now 12 — her arthritis returned after about two months. When participating in the Hutchinson study with her last two pregnancies, the researchers found the measured fetal DNA levels dropped soon after delivery, and her hands were soon too stiff to manipulate diaper pins or even hold her baby to nurse.

"I would get stiff and more and more uncomfortable," Swanson said.

Swanson's medications for arthritis have ranged from aspirin and several other anti-inflammatory drugs, to shots of gold, which acts more broadly on the immune system. The medications have controlled her arthritis fairly well, but she has suffered side effects, including mouth sores, stomach problems, raised blood pressure and weight gain.

1 percent

About 1 percent of the population has rheumatoid arthritis or juvenile arthritis, and women are more than twice as likely to have it as men, experts estimate. The diseases can be debilitating, eventually deforming joints and making walking and using the hands very difficult.

Women with the disease are more likely to deliver prematurely or by Caesarean section and may have longer hospitalizations, other recent research has indicated. A drug that would better target the basic autoimmune process of rheumatoid arthritis would be welcomed by millions of patients like Swanson, Nelson said.

Nelson and her colleagues are the first to examine the role of fetal DNA in arthritis remission during pregnancy. Other scientists have investigated how the genetics of the fetus and biochemicals that regulate the immune system influence arthritis.

Next, the Hutchinson scientists hope to expand the study to examine the activity of immune cells and look more closely at fetal proteins that may help trigger the immune system's response.

Nelson predicts that a medication could be developed in about five years, depending on drug-company interest.

This latest research was financed by the National Institutes of Health and the Washington Women's Foundation, which awards grants for work in health, social services, arts and culture, education and the environment.

So they've been studying this for at least 17 years? Well, I hope it turns into something, it will work for me, my RA went away when I was pg with our second daughter and I realized I was pg the 3rd time because the RA disappeared. I'm thinking I should maybe clean out DD's drain, gather up some of those dead cells.This is good news. I have always wanted kids, but after reading some of these posts it makes me not want to have kids anymore. It is really sad. I have always had very mild RA and I am afraid if I get pregnant it will come back even worse.  I know that this is  probably a selfish reason and I will still end up  having kids but I know I will have that fear during the entire pregnancy. [QUOTE=cah1418]This is good news. I have always wanted kids, but after reading some of these posts it makes me not want to have kids anymore. It is really sad. I have always had very mild RA and I am afraid if I get pregnant it will come back even worse.  I know that this is  probably a selfish reason and I will still end up  having kids but I know I will have that fear during the entire pregnancy.

That is how I had an inkling I was preggo with my son... most RA symptoms disappeared and I did not have a need for celebrex... all symptoms were managble.

Thanks for the article, i always like to see hope.  Maybe one day they will fix this and i won't have to worry about my daughter getting it.
 
I had Jr. RA etc. but didn't know it (didn't test for it back then) and when i was pregnant and up to 5 or 6 yrs after my daughter was born the pain was gone.  Then it slowly came back and made me very unhappy.
 
I am wondering why i did so well after though for all those years before my knees said, "oh yah, i'm supposed to hurt".
 
Thanks for the article :)
Oh Larry..... If they hadn't taken my baby maker out!!!!  I would proably have a kid just for the relief. ..... Just kidding ...  Sigh !!  It's a thought

Lev, I'm printing this off and taking it with me to my next Rheum appt. I had a hysterectomy in 2002. I have polysystic ovaries (which they left in). Every so often I get PMT (you know big rock hard boobs, fluid retention), when I get these symptoms I am totally pain free. I lay in bed and listen to a body thats normally yelling in pain and hear nothing.

I've had a terrible flare for the past 4 weeks and at the beginning of this week (11.2.8) I had all the signs of PMT and I've been pain free for a week. Its fab, I feel normal. I have asked various people on the board if their pain eases with PMT and had come to the conclusion that I was going MAD
 
Having read your post just confirms it for me that the girly hormones are having some seriously good side effects (obviously not the rocks etc
 
Hubby wants to know if I can take something to keep me in a state of permanent PMT!!**
well I can attest to this----both of my pregnancies sent my arthritis into a wonderful remission---only to come back with MORE POWER after I gave birth!
I have always said to my docs that the drug companies need to do more research into this. Instead of all the biologics with terrible side effects---design a drug that makes our bodies think we are pregnant and maybe we will go into remission for longer periods and our arthritis damaging our joints will slow or maybe come to a stop altogether.

although what will they do for the men??Men with MOOBS, not a nice thought. Not being flippant just had a picture in my mind. Hubby wont believe this conversation. I almost feel relieved.hmmmm--men with man boobs and PMS maybe!!   that could be funny.It makes sense that it would be something hormonal when the stats say that twice as many women as men have RA.  I sure hope that serious research has and is being done!  I guess maybe I'm just not understanding their study, cause I don't see how this is even close to being "the reason"
 
They're talking about how pregnant women with RA have more of the baby's DNA floating in their blood.
 
Well yeah..........but wouldn't ALL pregnant women? How does that DIRECTLY relate to a pregnancy remission??
 
What about non-pregnancy remissions?
 
Shouldn't they be looking for a common ground there??
 
Am I off base? Maybe someone can simplify it for me??
 
 
PIPPY!!! GIMPY!!! LOL
Katie -
 
You hit it again!  This is an old newspaper report about a study which has since been disproved.  Not that we don't get remission - we do - but if I remember correctly it was later determined that the increase in fetal cells was more in relation to RH factor.  I might have it wrong but I do remember both the original study coming out and the 'rebuttal' one.
 
If I remember right - the higher fetal cell ratio was explained more as a allergy reaction.  Like the husband was RF positive and the wife RF negative. 
 
Or not.
 
Just as yet another 'study' - how many of us with RA were RH incompatible in pregnacy?
 
Pip
 
Edited because I also can't spell allergy
Pip!2008-02-15 20:54:28Do ALL women with RA go into remission with pregnancy?Damn, you lost me Pip. I really think my brain is shut off tonight. *sigh*
 
 
TOML - that's a GREAT question. I don't think I've ever seen an answer to it.
 
 
 
HOWEVER - Now I beg the question......if you see a link to heavier flaring during your period........what of pregnancy? Would that be any indicator??? Hmmmmm
If a woman has O negative and the man O positive - the baby can have serious problems.  The body kind of attacks the baby.  My cousin lost her second baby when that happened.  They tried to do a transfusion but it was too late.  I am also negative RH and my husband is positive - so I had to have rhogam shots so the baby would live.  Whatever is in the rhogam shots messes up your blood - when I got the blood clot after the baby was born the new lab tech kind of freaked as he'd never seen that on blood typing and they had to explain to him that I'd just had the rhogam shot.  LOL
 
So, the rebuttal study said all women have fetal blood in their systems (duh, because they'd been pregnant) but those with the higher ratios had 'rh incompatibility issues'. 
 
The hormone links are pretty obvious to me but I don't think that would be an indicator.  You should ask here - anybody with RA prior to pregnancy...did you flare during mense?  And did you have pregnancy remission?
 
Hugs,
 
Pip
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Okay I don't feel so dumb. I didn't understand because I didn't know wtf RH was. (Hey, I've never had a kid, leammie alone. LOL) But now it all makes sense.
 
That is a good question pippy, I think I shall start a new thread!!!
Pip , I am Rh a negative to. They give me a shot after every pregnancy.  My brother in ( the day ) was called a blue baby, he did have to have the transfusion. In all his baby picture's he always looked kinda of sickly.From the first that I read that ra symptoms were eased during pregnancy I thought that the reason was one of the shut down of the bodies defenses to allow a foriegn body to not be destroyed. Just as an organ transplant from a family member is still attacked by the immune system so would the fetus with a foriegn dna so this makes sense to me and so the shut down and slowing of these destroyers also aids in the relief of ra symptoms:
 
Rheumatoid arthritis and pregnancy

Bonnie L Bermas, MD

UpToDate performs a continuous review of over 375 journals and other resources. Updates are added as important new information is published. The literature review for version 15.3 is current through September 2007; this topic was last changed on September 20, 2007. The next version of UpToDate (16.1) will be released in March 2008.

INTRODUCTION — Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) affects 1 to 2 percent of the adult population in the United States. There is a female predominance in RA, and many female patients are of childbearing age [1]. Thus, the management of RA during pregnancy is a common challenge. In many patients with RA, disease activity improves substantially in the gravid state. However, modification of treatment so as to minimize the potential for fetal toxicity while maintaining adequate disease control can be difficult in patients whose RA flares or remains active.

IMMUNOLOGY OF PREGNANCY — Many immunologic changes must occur during pregnancy in order to maintain the viability of the fetus. Immunologic alterations occur at the maternal-fetal interface to prevent "rejection" of the fetus [2]. Among these are changes in cytokine secretion from a Th1 predominance to a Th2 predominance [3], an estrogen-induced increase in the synthesis of complement components by the liver, diminished activity of natural killer cells, increases in soluble tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNF) receptors, and increases serum plasma levels of interleukin-1 receptor antagonist [4-7]. Increased binding of circulating TNF and antagonism of interleukin-1 (IL-1) may contribute to the symptomatic improvement of RA symptoms in some women during pregnancy.

In one study, improvement of RA symptoms during pregnancy correlated with greater HLA mismatch in one study [8]. This effect could be mediated by antibodies against HLA class II antigens or the induction of suppressor mechanisms. However, this correlation with HLA mismatches has not been observed in all reports [9].

HORMONES AND RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS — The increased incidence of RA in women suggests that sex hormones might have an influence on RA. As an example, women have noted improved symptoms during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle, the time when the production of gonadal steroids, particularly progesterone, is maximal [10]. In addition, oophorectomized female mice demonstrate a heightened susceptibility to collagen-induced arthritis [11].

Pregnancy related changes in circulating hormones may contribute to a shift to a less inflammatory state during pregnancy. Both premenopausal and postmenopausal women with RA appear to have lower serum levels of adrenal androgens (eg, dehydroepiandrosterone [DHEA]) [12,13]. DHEA, cortisol, estrogen, progesterone, and norepinephrine, all of which are elevated in pregnancy, contribute to the Th2 dominant cytokine profile that emerges in pregnancy [14]. (See "Immunology of pregnancy" above).

levlarry2008-02-16 08:33:45Oh,
 
One more thing, yes pip you are wrong, it's not a newspaper article, it is the findings of a study from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. To those with more interests of the research and findings and further researches by this fine research center, fhcrc, go to this link and yes they are continuing research to help us all:
http://www.fhcrc.edu/util/search?q=rheumatoid
levlarry2008-02-16 09:23:43Hi All;
 
This is so amazing...Just the other day, my husband and I were talking about how
my Mom, who suffered terribly with RA, found relief during her pregnancies which
probably explains the 7 kids in our family.
 
Before reading all the helpful information (thanks Lev) we surmised that it would
be relatively simple to investigate the blood characteristics of a woman before her
pregnancy and those characteristics during Pg-ism and no pain.
 
We then concluded that all the chemists would then need to do is duplicate whatever
the difference is....And there is your cure!   Ta-Da!
 
Of course, this senario could be far too simplistic but history has shown that some
of our greatest inventions come from the most basic of formulas...'Penicillin is mold!'
 
Can't wait to take the info. to my great RA Doc!
Pip, you'd think if it was as simple as pregnant women with RH factor were the only ones to get relief, someone would have seen that. I am negative and got the shots too. From Lev's article it sounds like their study is looking at some of the same things the biologics are working on.

OT/We have a friend who was only able to carry one pregnancy to full term, all the ones after that ended in miscarriage, 7, I think. She said her ob/gyn finally told her he felt her body was attacking the fetuses as too foreign and she should stop trying, they eventually adopted.Bumping this up for those that may have missed it or didn't take advantage of the link that was posted, this one:
 
http://www.fhcrc.edu/util/search?q=rheumatoid
 
And this title both from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Occupation and Rheumatoid Arthritis
 
http://www.fhcrc.org/about/pubs/center_news/2007/nov/art7_autoimmune.html
 
LEV
On that second link you posted:
 
"The results showed that some occupations involving exposure to the public (such as nurses and teachers) were associated with an increased risk of dying from a systemic autoimmune disease, but this was not the case with all jobs involving public exposure (for example, food-service jobs). Farmers showed increased risk of death from systemic autoimmune disease, particularly for those who worked with crops. In addition, several industrial occupations including mining and textile machine operators, timber cutters and loggers had an increased risk of death from this group of diseases."
 
 
1. Nurses and Teachers - I think we see that trend here, not with death per sey, but damn aren't they sicker than most on here??????
 
2. Farmers - PESTICIDES!!!!! Lordy they're bad all around, can you imagine being exposed to high amounts of them DAILY for YEARS?? How horrible!!
 
3. Mining/textile/timber/loggers - they have so much exposure to nasty things ANYWAY it seems obvious that if you had a comprimised immune system you'd be more likely to have your job kill you.
 
 
So I guess really, it makes sense in any scenario. Our immune system SUCKS. The jobs listed run a risk of illness ANYWAY, and then to throw our "types" (lol) into the mix is almost BEGGING for trouble. Right?
 
*edited because I can't space things right...lol*
arriscolwell2008-02-18 19:21:01
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