Misery and belly rings | Arthritis Information

 

But this might.  To take my mind off the pain, I would like to bore you with my dilemma and ask your (that's everybody) opinion on this subject that is of great importance to my just shy of 16 year old daughter.  She wants to get her belly button pierced.  Now, I am not against piercings, although I don't like it when people go hog wild and pierce everything they can stick a needle through.  But to each his own and if you want to do that you might regret it later, but if you're 18, go for it. 

 

But the thing about the belly is this~ I just think it's too sexy.  If she were to get hers done (which the answer has been no) naturally she'd want to show it off.  I simply don't want to give my girl a reason to go showing off her skin.  Modesty is not popular with teens these days but it is still very popular with me.  And no, my daughter doesn't think that's one of my good points Linncn2008-03-06 23:33:38As a father my first thought is no.

When my daughters were young one of them wanted a nose ring, I just flatly refused to allow it.
I still cop stick to this day from the X about how cruel I was and that my daughter saw that as disapproving of her.
That was total rubbish, I just did not think that it was the right age for that sought of thing.
She was only 12 at the time.

Having aged a bit since then I would have to say that if it was going to cause a lot of trouble in the house hold then I might relent on the belly button.
I would want a very firm comitment from her that this is a one of, and that there will be no more request of similar.
Have her sign a contract that can be shown back to her.

This is just one grumpy old mans thoughts at the moment.
When she's eighteen, would be my response...however unpopular that makes you. I have told Neve she can't have her ears pierced until 10 or 12 years old. How shocking!!! But our culture and the media are insisting our girls grow up way too fast these days and I think it is our job as parents to halt that in any possible way. They sell clothes for Neve's age that are the same cut as a sexy woman's style. Have you read a book called Raising Ophelia. It is exactly about this issue and would probably help tons with your girl. I suggest you get it and read if you haven't discovered it already. Your instinct must be saying no or you would have already said yes.

Break the damn bottle if necessary...you can then get the meds you need and put the rest of them in a container you can damn well access. Then have a cup of something warm and soothing...tea and when I am in pain sometimes and I can't sleep, often I find sleeping on my tummy (or another way), which I never do usually gets me off.

I hope you get some rest, Linda.
I sorry you are hurting, Link. You are mom your the boss. At sixteen they have the great looking tummies and they want to show them off. Really i thought this would be out of style by now. Try telling her thats old school and out dated see where that gets you. LOL My ex boyfriends daughter got hers pierced a few years back and she was sixteen. Of course she was living with her mother at the time and good old dad well they never asked what he thought. Still i feel she was a great kid belly button ring and all. She was validictorian and 17 when she graduated, a brillant math student, she was the best big sister to her little sis and tutered her all of the time so the reputation of them being brillant would carry on. She also held the same part time job that she got at sixteen till she went off to college.  But of course the ring is for showing off. The shirts get shorter if you have a belly button ring. Does her father have an opinion? Or is all of the pressure on you? And have you asked her what kind of shirts she plans to ware if she gets her belly pierced?Oh by the way i hope you feel better soon. LOL You had me wondering with the title who the belly ring was for. Pain seems to be bringing me out of bed tonight also. I thought 35 mg of pred would take the edge off the pain for me. I just don't like to take to much medicine so i skipped the pain pill. I got a medicine tray and it is almost harder for me to get open then the bottle. I manage so far but it sure is hard on my fingers. My hands are not to bad left thumb and left toe are very sensitive. I bumped toe every so slightly on the chair at dinner and yelled out loud ohhh ohhhhhhh. Barely touched it. And i walk ever so slowly as to not upset the toe.Actually i thought you were going to day your belly ring was swollen along with the rest of you.Linncn- My eldest daughter had hers pierced when she was 16, I was against it at first for the same reasons you have, but I saw her side of it and we compromised. She only showed her belly ring off when we went to the beach andin certain outfits where we knew she wasnt going to be at risk of looking too "sexy" for a 16 year old. As she wore a school uniform it wasnt on show at school at all, At 18 low slung jeans became fashionable so it was on show a bit more but by then she wasnt as fussy about wearing it a lot. She is now nearly 20 and its like earings, she wears it when she remembers to put it in but her jeans have gotton a bit higher and the tops have got a bit longer so its no longer on show much anyway. She has asked for no more body piercings thank goodness. I think it has got to the stage where they think of the belly like they do their ears, its just a normal thing to do.I dont think sticking a needle through your belly button normal but then I'm not 16.  Still, it can't hurt  to hear what other people think about it.  Cordy, I checked out that book on Amazon, did you mean Revivng Ophelia?  Looks good.  Bodak, it's always good to get a mans point of view, thanks for taking the time to respond.  Milly, she says that she doesn't want to show it off, she just thinks they're cool looking.  I think she thinks that's true, but I also think that if she had one she'd feel differently and want to show it off.  I don't let her wear cropped tops just because the jeans are all so low cut.  I'd let her wear a shorter top if she has higher waisted pants on.   We don't really clash too much over clothing though. Linncn2008-03-07 02:04:36

Yeah Pin I think you're right that they aren't the same kind of thing they were when they first came out.  Actually, I think their pretty.  If they'd have been around then I was young, I would probably have had one.   I'm thinking when she gets a bit older.  And even then with the same sort of guidelines that you set with your daughter.

Yep, Link, I did mean Reviving Opheila, bother, sorry, tired and knew it was right enough for you to find it. Great book for anyone raising a girl, especially a teenage girl. Might be a good guidebook for where you are at with daughter.  Reviving Ophelia is an excellent book. I was brought up in South Africa as a teenager, where 16 year olds were still 16 year olds, not 16 going on 21. There was little television and schools were very strict about dress code ( uniform only). My days were of school, coming home and spending the long lazy sunny afternoons swimming with friends and evenings were a time for family entertainment Bringing up a teenager in the UK is an eye opener, I only have one child at school now and her school is also strict on uniforms so there is no pressure to look better than their friends and only on fund raising days are they allowed to wear their own clothes.We do a lot as a family and my kids are encouraged to bring their friends round so we know who they are. They have chores  and we give them a lot of self respect but expect it back too. I see too many children hanging around the streets at night time, bored and boredom is when they get up to things they shouldnt. I used to work in a school where a lot of kids spoke to teachers and their peers like dirt. Kids are under a lot of peer pressure. There is so much teenage pregnancy here, its like a badge they wear proudly. I think we can tell our kids whats wrong and right, guide them as we know best, lay down rules and try to explain to them why we say no to things we feel might not be good for them. It has thankfully worked for my eldest daughter and my son , they are generally good kids( never perfect) I am just starting the teenage thing with my youngest and keeping my fingers crossed. Having RA has helped my kids to be patient and understanding too.

And find it I did!!  I only asked because their are a couple of books about teenage girls with Ophelia in the title and I wanted to make sure I was looking at the right one before I purchase.

Lisa, when I visited SA, even in Zimbabwe, the difference in the children was amazing.  They were quiet, they were so repectful and polite.  My kids (aside of my girl, they're grown now) were well behaved, but not like these African children.  I was impressed.

well snow.  My post about BB rings was really a post about  the terrible flare I am in and how much pain I was in last night.  It was late night, I had no posistion I could sleep in and I was really trying to occupy myself to try and get my mind off the pain.  The kind people that were awake at that time talked to me and they were very helpful.  

I haven't taken Allie, I could not comment on your post.  Sorry mine seemed so trivial to you.  And now I'll try not to feel upset that you'd post that.

Yep, yep, yep...Reviving Opheila, which of course means that innocent childlikeness in our daughters. Well, worth purchasing with a teenage daughter. I think you will get much from it. A great book.

So sorry that you had such a rotten night sleep. That sure does happen with RA, when everything hurts more than our ability to sleep. Blah!
 Cordy,you know that better than I do.  How are you feeling anyway?