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Which I've always said - and who in their right mind would give that 'stuff' to kids.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions all along.  I didn't know how it would be bad for you, but my little ole brain told me that shooting one's self up with botulism can only lead to...............something bad.  Lindysad  to read..... 

i thought botox was fat taken from 1 part of the body and transfered to another
part.. never heard of this med.. is available in the uk ?
Boney, it's used to disguise the deeper lines in your face.  I think it paralyzes the muscles, thus the frozen look on many famous people's faces.  It causes the lines to be less prominent.  I'm sure it's used in the U.K.  It's been around for years and very popular because people were assured that there were no side effects, excuse me but it's botulism.  Lindyhi  linb  i understand what you are saying.. but in the article it says botox drug
treatment.. so i though they had developed a drug from peoples fat..
hope i am not looking a little dumb here..
wishing you well  ...  Boney
LOL Boney, are you thinking buttocks, instead of botox? knew i was going to regret typing that..

but the wife did say i have it on the brain  Boney2008-04-07 12:39:48 Thanks Boney for the chuckle.  I needed it desperately.  Don't regret it, made us all smile and that can only be a good thing.  LindyBotox saved my sisters life. She has achalasia and her food tube had collapsed, she went from being a size 14 to a size 6 in 4 months as she couldnt swallow even water. she had botox injections in her tube and it opened it up again, shes had this done twice now. hi pin cushion.. would you please explain a little on this..

Boney

Boney2008-04-07 13:22:06Pinn, I'm interested also.  I'm sure there are medical uses for it other than frown lines and it would be useful to know about them.  Lindyhttp://www.digestivedisorders.org.uk/content/pdfs/01_Achalasia_fact_sheet_2005.pdf this explains it quite wellThanks Pinn.  Lindy LinB2008-04-07 13:36:08thanks pin cushion.... [QUOTE=Pip!]Which I've always said - and who in their right mind would give that 'stuff' to kids.

Hugs!

Deb

I've heard that botox has been used for neuropathic pain. Other than a medical reason for using botox, I don't see the point of injecting something into me for cosmetic reasons.My sister is ok thanks deb, she will eventually have to have an operation, she has put on some weight now and still has problems swallowing her food from time to time though. Its quite a weird condition and took so long to get it diagnosed.I have had Botox injected into my temples to target the nerve endings causing me almost 30 years of dibilitating migraine headaches. It's worked. I am no longer on massive doses of Imitrex (which I think is far more dangerous than the botox). My initial dose was a 25 mg nasal spray of Imitrex, that dose did nothing. Gradually I progressed to Imitrex pills, maximum dosage 100mg pills. Some days I would take as many as 5 or 6 and cover my head with a pillow and cry from pain. Botox was the only thing that would help. My Migraines would last sometimes for 5 days. Horrible. I swear by Botox.I had no idea Botox was used for so many medicinal treatments.  I knew it was used to stop excessive sweating, but that's about it.  It seems that for the uses posted here, the risk, if there is any, is clearly worth it.  There's always that risk vs. benefit part of taking any drug, but it's a no-brainer that it's stupid to use it for wrinkles if there's any chance at all that there could be a problem later.  My sister prides herself on her young appearance but I hope she'll reconsider any future treatments.  It's just not worth it.  Botulism it a known bacterium.  My question is, what came first, the neurological problems (from some sort of bacteria) or the disease?  If somebody choses to use Botox they should know and understand all ramifications -> and by my logic, that would mean the eventual onset of these diseases.  There is absolutely no way Botox is neuroprotective.  Instead, it masks symptoms. they don't have inject the bacteria, just their byproducts. Many antibiotics are also bacterial byproducts.               Pip, I have to disagree with you. Many of the drugs we take for our RA can cause other problems but we take the risks and take the drugs for a chance at a a better life. Why should you think someone taking botox for a help would be any different? Because nobody in their right mind thinks botulism is a 'good' bacteria.  Seriously, I'm not trying to diss somebody's med, and in the right case, maybe it's the appropriate choice.  But to add that stuff to the human body for VANITY (and I'm as vain as they come ;-) never struck me as a good idea.  There are other, better neuroprotective meds - I'd try those first.  I'd also try natural and see if that worked.  When JSNM told me Aloe Juice would cut my GERD I thought she was...silly.  6 months later and no improvement on other meds I was willing to give it a try.  Guess what...it worked and worked well. 

I agree that I wouldn't inject myself with Botox for vanity.  Just doesn't make sense to me and I'm as vain, if not vainer than most.  I'd look at alternatives. 

Rat poison has saved more lives than it's harmed (except for the mice)  For many years it was the only anticoagulant on the market.  When it comes to dissolving a pulmonary clot or using an unproven method then give me the rat posion.  In some instances the quickest acting medical treatment is the best route.    Lindy

rat poison (Coumadin) helped keep my husband alive after his heart attack and subsequent total cardiac arrest. It also helped save my stepmother recover from and avoid additional pulmonary embolisms.                   And to this day, arsenic is used to treat disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic_trioxide
Dunno about tapeworms... but maggots are used for wound debridement.  I think I would throw up and pass out at the mere suggestion of maggot therapy by one of my doctors.

Jas, I'm with you on that one but my closest friend just had a mastectomy and the site became infected and wouldn't heal.  The center used maggots on the incision site and it worked like a charm.  The infection cleared after the maggots debrided the site and she was finally able to start chemo.  She grew so fond of them she named them.  The wonders of modern medicine or ancient medicine.  Lindy

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