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An opth shares his experience at a Restasis lunch:

http://pharmagossip.blogspot.com/2008/06/medical-whoring-just-say-no-to-lunch.html

The first direct link I posted didn't work; hopefully you can still get to it through Pharamgossip; you have to click on 'more' for the whole article.
Suzanne2008-06-11 05:33:18Good blog Suzanne - you have quite a collection of these guys now!

 
Pharma Pimps and Medical Whores - sounds like a great new rap remix!
 
Pip
medical whores..   A gossip blog?  I'm surprised that you would post from something that says it's a gossip blog; maybe it's ok since its the pharma industry.  I know that there have been times when I've posted stats or research and I've been told that it's supported by a pharma co. or insurance co. and the info is slanted towards the supporter and implied that it's not accurate.  It's not only happened with me but also other posters.  I really enjoy reading ALL of the posts but sometimes I feel censored because the information that I'd like to post is supported by an insurance company and I know that I'll get flack about it.  But now I see  it's ok to deal in gossip.  Thanks guys, that opens up a whole new world of posting. 
 
I think its fairly apparent by the name "pharma gossip" or whatever its name is, just what this website is about -- talk about pharmaceutical issues, legitimate issues that appear in the press, printed and tv.  I don't use it myself, I prefer to read newspaper articles.
 
The website you posted is the "Foundation for Health Care Coverage."  It isn't readily apparent, unless you dig a little, that its funded by the insurance industry and that the Executive Director is also with the insurance industry.  Now insurance company foundations have funded some good projects, but in this case, the website's "message" is that the number of uninsured isn't that high and in fact many of the uninsured are eligible for government programs but don't sign up.   My take on it -- spinning this issue, attempting to minimize our health care crisis, so an increasingly anxious public  won't insist on reforms that would bring about restrictions or regulation of the insurance industry.   Just my opinion. 
 
I think the important thing is "transparency."  Knowing who is behind what website so that the public can better evaluate their information and message.
 
I Got all my information from a Christmas Cracker    Boney,
 
Now would that be www.christmascracker. com or www.christmascracker.org? 
 
(what's a christmas cracker?  a cookie? or as you say in Merry ole' England, "a biscuit")
 
LOL Joie a christmas cracker is either

a cardboard container which is pulled by 2 people and contains jokes
and novelties..

or Santas Helper may be a Christmas Cracker  whoooo hooooo 

Believe me Joie I knew the website was the Foundation for Health Care Coverage.  I'm quite familiar with their organization.   

Sometimes you have to meet in the middle. There's almost always an agenda, slant or spin  to stats, irregardless of who's doing the statistical work or the research.   You have to  read different takes on the same subject and develope your own opinion about the subject based on your many different observations. 
 
I think most people on the forum do that, and don't need to have it pointed out to them continuously that the site doesn't have viable info because it's supported by such and such a company.  I guess I was guilty of doing just that when I pointed out the site was basically a gossip site and post.  I should have assumed that readers would realize that without my post.  
 
I think the increasingly anxious public are crying out for reform, irregardless of spin, slant, or opinions from the health insurance industry.  I've been involved in politics for a long time and health care, insurance industry and medical reform are usually the primary interest of the general public.  It usually bounces between health care reform and the economy. 
 
Hey Boney, can I read your Christmas cracker?  I think I missed it when searching out info. Lindy
 
    
Boney,
 
 
Ohhhhh, yeah, my niece buys those for the holidays, I think they may be called "poppers"  You pull them apart and stuff flies out. 
 
Interesting thread --  from medical whores to christmas crackers! 
 
[QUOTE=LinB]

Believe me Joie I knew the website was the Foundation for Health Care Coverage.  I'm quite familiar with their organization.   

Sometimes you have to meet in the middle. There's almost always an agenda, slant or spin  to stats, irregardless of who's doing the statistical work or the research.   You have to  read different takes on the same subject and develope your own opinion about the subject based on your many different observations. 
 
I think most people on the forum do that, and don't need to have it pointed out to them continuously that the site doesn't have viable info because it's supported by such and such a company.  I guess I was guilty of doing just that when I pointed out the site was basically a gossip site and post.  I should have assumed that readers would realize that without my post.  
 
I think the increasingly anxious public are crying out for reform, irregardless of spin, slant, or opinions from the health insurance industry.  I've been involved in politics for a long time and health care, insurance industry and medical reform are usually the primary interest of the general public.  It usually bounces between health care reform and the economy. 
 
    
[/QUOTE]
 
I'm glad you're familiar with the fact that the insurance industry funds the website you recommended as a source of info on the uninsured.  I was pointing it out to others who might not know, and might not take the time to investigate further.
 
I agree its good to get info from a variety of sources, and I do, and I read quite a bit about the issue of health insurance, and that is why I was very puzzled about the Foundations statement that the number of uninsured was not that high, which is contrary to what I have read from a variety of sources.  In fact, I'm glad you mentioned this website, because now I see where several people on this forum get their info.  Now, I understand.
 
I have followed the issue of health care for decades and have seen little progress to improve upon our health care system.  Access to affordable health care is now impacting working middle class families, how much worse must things get before the American public demand reform?
   
[QUOTE=Joie]Boney, [QUOTE=Boney] [QUOTE=Joie]Boney,
 
 
Ohhhhh, yeah, my niece buys those for the holidays, I think they may be called "poppers"  You pull them apart and stuff flies out. 
 
Interesting thread --  from medical whores to christmas crackers! 
 
[/QUOTE]

thats not a christmas cracker.. they are about 6inches long and have
party hats inside and little toys and jokes..are you sure you dont know
what crackers are   [/QUOTE]
 
uhhhhhhh, noooooo, I'm not pulling your crackers. 
 
crackers -- poppers -- they're the same.  now I remember, they have paper hats and little goodies in them -- it's been awhile . . . . .
 
doesn't crackers in England also mean looney, crazeeeeeeee ? 
 
LOL  [QUOTE=LinB]A gossip blog?  I'm surprised that you would post from something that says it's a gossip blog; maybe it's ok since its the pharma industry.  I know that there have been times when I've posted stats or research and I've been told that it's supported by a pharma co. or insurance co. and the info is slanted towards the supporter and implied that it's not accurate.  It's not only happened with me but also other posters.  I really enjoy reading ALL of the posts but sometimes I feel censored because the information that I'd like to post is supported by an insurance company and I know that I'll get flack about it.  But now I see  it's ok to deal in gossip.  Thanks guys, that opens up a whole new world of posting.  Oh, and for true gossip, that I would never post, check out www.cafepharma.com.  Message boards for pharma insiders that will make you want to cry.  It's all anonymous, so no way to know what is BS.  The other day it was posted that there is no growth in the JIA market for biologics.  If that's true, looks like many parents (physicians?) are staying away.  If it's true, that is.....  I spent not a few years working for journals in the photo industry. Because the publications relied on advertising revenue from the industry, we were frequently wined and dined and given various freebies and so on. This was so common, that after a while it really didn't matter who gave us what. We needed samples of whatever we were writing about to put together a story.   [QUOTE=Suzanne]Oh, and for true gossip, that I would never post, check out www.cafepharma.com.  Message boards for pharma insiders that will make you want to cry.  It's all anonymous, so no way to know what is BS.  The other day it was posted that there is no growth in the JIA market for biologics.  If that's true, looks like many parents (physicians?) are staying away.  If it's true, that is.....  [/QUOTE]

I can attest to the fact that there is a whole lotta bullsh!t on cafepharma... lots of young sales reps looking to create drama.  Separating the wheat from the chaff is all but impossible over there. [QUOTE=JasmineRain] [QUOTE=Suzanne]Oh, and for true gossip, that I would never post, check out www.cafepharma.com.  Message boards for pharma insiders that will make you want to cry.  It's all anonymous, so no way to know what is BS.  The other day it was posted that there is no growth in the JIA market for biologics.  If that's true, looks like many parents (physicians?) are staying away.  If it's true, that is.....  [/QUOTE]

I can attest to the fact that there is a whole lotta bullsh!t on cafepharma... lots of young sales reps looking to create drama.  Separating the wheat from the chaff is all but impossible over there.
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