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did anyone have normal levels of these when they were first diagnosed? I did and still do most of the timedid anyone give you a reason for this?



I've got a completely normal sed rate and crp. The nurse just told me not to
worry, sometimes it just doesn't show up. My labs have all been in the normal range for 20+ years.   In my case, it's called sero-negative RA.   

My levels are normal. Doc says not to put "too much" into blood work. He believes me when I explain my symptoms.

Mike

Julie; I totally agree with Mike; you are far too concerned with this matter.

Refocus you energy elsewhere.

No, its not that, its because I am going to see a new rd on Wednesday.

So far I can't get help because i have normal esr and crp

Doc wont take RF into account because it is only a weak positive

They wont take a strong pos anti ccp into account because they don't use that test

They said isotope bone scan is clear so they won't use that

They said there is no swelling so they wont take that

There is no doubt in my mind that i have ra and as EVERYONE here keeps telling me, you don't need swelling or abnormal results to confirm RA, so I'm sorry if I seem like i'm going on a bit, i just don't know what else to do because I have no idea how everyone else who's joints and labs are all totally normal get a dx.  Right now, i don't have anywhere else to refocus my energy other than getting this sorted - sorry - i know it must be very wearing for everyone, but sadly , I don't have an rd who believes my symptoms - and everyone here, including me says they sound pretty much like ra and in my eyes a positive anti ccp proves it - so i am sitting here, not only without meds but without help or anyone who will dx me apart from one rd who will not treat me.  So where else can a focus my energy

Julie, I see your point. There is a big difference in health care systems across the Atlantic. I have one suggetions to help you when you visit your doc: Research on the net. It make take some time, but there's nothing like hard copy "in your face" to back up your story. I'll be looking for articles for you.

Mike

thank you so much - i know, i'm a nightmare just now, i'm never like this - it's just the not knowing and the battling all the time - takes it right out of you.
Thanks

Julie, "(and try not to scare myself up a tree while i'm at it

Mike

What are your symptoms that make you certain you have RA?
just curoius because my CRP levels are highly sensitive to my disease.
Anything above normal indicates activity. For example my last CRP was 27.
Have you tested your ANA?
Cheers
Cathy
Julie, if you're ever planning a trip to Australia you're covered by the
reciprocal healthcare agreement here I'm pretty sure. :oP I got a diagnosis
with no positive bloodwork, just based on symptoms.

julie. just wanted to say i've been reading all your posts and know how you feel and hope that maybe this new rd will suprise you and give you a dx on symptoms...surely he(she) will know that 20-30% of dx'd with ra are seronegative..  I wonder if the ones fresh from med school are more likely to be agressive? maybe you should try to find a young one

mary

Julie,

 I am also seronegative. My sedrate is normal, while my CRP is elevated. I also have had from time to time a titer on my ANA. But the titer is considered negative, because of the speckled pattern. But still no postive RA factor. But my RD feels this is RA. Good luck to you!

Hi everyone, thanks for getting back to me.  Hiphop, the reason i think i have ra is because i started getting excrutiating migrating pain in my joints and its now settled in my feet (toes and balls of feet), the back of my ankles (the tendons, I have to walk flat footed and it hurts to crunch my toes), my knees, sore to kneel, stand, sit, my right elbow, two knuckles on my left hand, sometimes red when they are very sore, and the left side of my jaw.  There are all really painful for a good few hours in the morning and ease of a bit through the day.  I also have days, especially in the morning, where i feel shivery and ill, like i'm going to come down with the flu, but i don't and i always feel exhausted.  I just can't think of anything else it possibly could be, when the rd told me to ignore my rf because it was weak, that's when i went and got the anti ccp test done privately at an independent GP service and it came back strong positive, but the rd's here will not take that into consideration even though it is over 95% specific for ra and is likely to be an indicator of more erosive disease.  My ANA's are negative.  I have a weird theory - because my white blood cells are low, (maybe due to an old infection or something) i think that this is why there is no swelling just now.  once they build back up again maybe then it will be more obvious.  I agree Mary, the doc that dx'd me with ra and said he couldn't treat me because i went to him privatley practically admitted himself that he was 'old school' and didn't keep up to date with the latest developments.   it's so frustrating. 

Julie, you are not alone with this.  I went for the first time to an RA doctor in August.  She got my blood work done and tell's me I dont have RA.  Hell I don't, she took me off every single med I have been Humira as well.  I am very stiff my hands sometimes can hardly do what I am thinking they should do.  I go thursday so she can see how I am doing without the drugs.  She also told me I had Hepatitis and my doctor did blood work and said there was no sign of it.  I read that immuno suppressant drugs can cause a false positive with hep.  I feel this RA should have taken this into account.  She sent my results to the state.  I get a letter that I need to do this stuff.  The only thing I did was tell them I do not have one sympton and I have had another blood test which is negative.  I am not going there.  My thought was maybe Humira might give the test a false negative.  I have been positive for RA for 10 years almost.  The RA said she did a kind of more extensive test to see if I did.  I know what I feel like and If I do not have RA then I have some God awful other disease.  When the RA and the nurse talk to me I kind of feel like they are looking at me saying yeah yeah! but your test say there is no RA.  You feel like a dang liar.  So know you are not alone.  Good luck though

 

Unbelieveable!  How awful for you Franny

I know this subject has been covered a lot lately.  (negative tests)  Many of us are posting at the new board.  You might want to copy and paste your post over there, too. . . . to get the most replies you can.

http://www.rafriends.com

 

 

 

Wow Franny...did the doctor you saw in August put you on humira? They must have thought you had RA...your story is confusing

Ok I don't mean to sound like a moron but can ya please tell me what CRP and ANA is?

As for bloodwork all I know is I have an RA Factor of 189 and my last sed rate was 30.

Peace & Love...Neasy

c reactive protien - it's a test like the sed rate except usually more sensitive.

ANA is anti nuclear antibodies - folk with lupus usually test postive for them and about 30% of ra folks do too.

Thanks Julie....appreciate it.

Peace & Love...Neasy


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