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Holy cow! I used that for the first time the other night on my toes. My foot was so bad that I had to use SOMETHING. I couldn't sleep! Anyway, Oh my heavens, after using it, not only did the pain stay, but this intense burning started happening. So my feet were then throbbing AND on fire. Of course THEN I read the label...it says it is derived from chili peppers and that burning can last for up to 48 hours. Yikes, they were still burning the next day. Has anyone else had this happen to them from using this? I threw mine away!schell2008-08-20 07:23:43No schell I haven't used it and never will. Thanks for the heads up!I think a lot of us use it here - it's a natural "icy hot' or whatever.  Did you put a ton on?

 
Pip
I like Biofreeze.  It seeems to work well for me.I remember the doctor telling me to use it after my jaw replacement.  (On my face).  He said it may burn a bit but after a few days the burning stops.  Then it takes a couple weeks for you to actually see improvment.
 
Forget that!!  One use and no way would I ever use it again.  lol
I like that its a natural antimicrobial and that its what they're studying to 'cure' diabetes.  To me, I would use it for that reason alone.  But thats me. 
 
There is a pill you can take but I'm still wussy about the Oil of Oregano (still on the counter) so...maybe I'll work up to that.
 
Pip
Capsaicin is not like Icy Hot - there's no cooling sensation to go with the burning.  You can mix it with Icy Hot if you wish. 

It's some serious stuff!!! When used in high concentrations (much higher than OTC stuff) for severe nerve problems, it's applied in a clinic/hospital by a nurse/technician wearing full protective gear (including face mask/respirator), and they pretreat the area with EMLA cream for 30 minutes or so first.

It works by depleting "substance P" from the area it's applied to.  This peptide is responsible for the pain sensation.  Once it's burned up by the capsaicin, it no longer hurts when it's applied.

Start with a low concentration cream and work your way up.  Be very careful - use gloves.  You don't want it on your hands when you touch your eyes, nose, mouth or hoo-hoo.

In the past, I've sprayed Lanacane on the area to be treated first, and then put the capsaicin on after that for the first few applications.  An icepack can also help dull the burn.

Once you get past the initial burn, it helps quite a bit.
That subabstance P is what they're going after in Type I diabetics.  Seems like when they inject that into the pancreas, it cuts the inflammation - and the pancreas starts producing insulin again - which they had previously thought would never happen again once it was 'under attack' by the immune system.
 
Pip
Some of my friends at big pharma have been involved in studying the vanilloid receptors which capsaicin binds to; interesting stuff.

For now, I'll just get my capscaicin in the occasional batch of salsa or fajitas.  Too many bad experiences of getting the cream in areas where you definitely don't want it... When my osteoarthritis in my spine started to get bad about 16 years ago, they told me to put Zostrix cream on my back. The active ingredient in Zostrix is capsaicin. It burned like fire the first week. ..in fact I would move around the bed all night to find a cool part of the sheet.  One thing to remember is that you don't want to try to wash it off with water, even cold water. It just reactivates the heat of the cream.
 
Gradually, I became less sensitive to it and it did ease the pain a bit for a couple of years. Of course, my arthritis became worse and worse and it ceased helping at all. But by that time my joints were becoming severely damaged and not much of anything helped the pain.
 
If you can stand it long enough to allow your body to get used to it, you might get some relief from it.
My PCP said to use it for the nerve pain I was having in my thigh due to damage from my two pregnancies.  Well, it works, but I invariable rub my eyes sometime later and YIKES!!!!  Like Jasmine said, even washing your hands won't get it all off.  Now it comes in a roller so you don't have to touch the stuff.  I have to say, it did work but I don't use it anymore because the RA meds, for some reason, have helped with my nerve pain too, even though it was caused by pregnancy damage and not an autoimmune disease.  Very odd. 
 
So, now, what do I do with the leftover Capsazin?  Hmmm, if I mix it with some Vaseline and put it on my lips, maybe it will give me lovely, "bee stung" lips, like Angelina Jolie! [/QUOTE]

I LOVE this!! Wouldn't we ALL like to look like her!Tried it once.  Didn't like it at all.
 
Jan
I tried it for 3 days and had the same experience and quit using it.  Does anyone know how long it burns before it actually starts to work?I feel for you after that kinda burning pain! 
 
I shouldn't be cracking up here ( and its not at you) but ex hubster had an injury from playing soccer one day and decided to rub his thigh with this stuff.  Well, he was not good at reading directions and vigourously rubbed for 10 minutes or so. Just after that he was in a cold shower leaping about then spent the next few hours with packets of frozen vegetables wrapped around his thigh!!!  lololol
 
Sorry you had a nasty experience. Beware of things like Tiger Balm too, I have had an issue with that. Mind you, just cutting chillies at home then forgetting to wash your hands ( or wear gloves) teaches you pretty quick. I wonder tho', WHY am I a slow learner?
 
Cheers   
 
Lyn
 
ETA: Forgot to mention that it needs to be gently massaged into skin. Best to do a little first and wait 10 minutes and see how you are going. My ex rubbed far too hard and for far too long. Less is more in this case!!
 
 
 
 
 
LyndeeNZ2008-08-20 17:41:11I have used this on my hands before my diagnosis - tried pretty much every cream to try to get the aches out of my hands! So I put it on my hands - then (since it was bedtime) - figured I'd put on some rubber gloves over it so it wouldnt get on my bedding (or my eyes) - well I lasted about 45 minutes before I was in complete tears - I dont think you are supposed to wear tight- non breathing plastic over it. After that I tried it again while watching tv - put it on my hands - washed it off after an hour or so. Then every time I would wash my hands for the next few days with warm water - it reactivated the heat. It did work - it took the pain away.
My BF has back problems - so one night he asked me to rub a little on one spot of his back - he then put a tshirt on over it and went to bed. I warned him that it gets hot. Well about 2am he woke up screaming - wipe it off - wipe it off! It is some strong stuff! LOL!
If it's good for nothing else, it's good for laughs!!!!!!!
 
Jan
[QUOTE=reegie]I tried it for 3 days and had the same experience and quit using it.  Does anyone know how long it burns before it actually starts to work?[/QUOTE]
 
My guess is, as soon as it finishes eating away at your flesh and obliterates your bones.
 
I tried it once.  Thought I was going to burst into flames.  I put out the fire with a double margarita, and tossed the tub in the trash.
 
It did teach me that there ARE worse things than RA!
I bought some with the spongy applicator and put some on my ankle. Yes, it did burn but my ankle felt good! It lasted for a whole day and night. I wouldn't put it anywhere close to sensitive parts of my body because it will burn!Check this out - apparently you put it in your nose?!?!?!
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?orig_db=PubMed&db=PubMed&cmd=Search&TransSchema=title&term=Clinical%20Journal%20of%20Pain%5BJour%5D%20AND%201998%5Bpdat%5D%20AND%20capsaicin
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/health/30real.html?ex=1351569600&en=05b7374f98e10099&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
 
Pip
I bet that intranasal capsaicin simply makes you forget about the pain in your head, because your nose is now on fire...
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