see where they would want to get married.. Think it of a yr, of dating, having really just honest, fun talks, about everything.. no distractions, no movies.. just one on one talking and a yr.. thats a lot of info!! .. The age thing... ok sigh.. i am one of those women, who hate giving out my age, lol and usually just say 28+.. tho I'm updated it to 36+ :P
The reason why, is bc agiesm
is very very real.. people expect you to be all fuddyduddy, by a certain time...or act a certain way..
Its silly, but quite true...imo.. I've always liked younger guys myself.. Some people are young at heart... Did they also have camcorders and could see each other while they were talking online?? If so, then they'd already know if there was a chemical attraction.
Actually , one can pick up vibes from a person online!
Like I said I'm a bit of an empath and usually can tell after a little bit, of being in a chat group, who's real and who's not.. and yes, lol there are definately the phonies out there!! Believe me, I'm not saying that they don't exisit! lol
Do you normally trust your son's judgement?
Has he usually had good taste in relationships.. (tho um, to be blunt, most 20 yr olds are.. well more physical.. so that could be a maturity on his part).
Besides all the "facts", what does your inner intution say about this person, if you had to minus those..
Would you like her then or not? I do believe in going w/ your gut. I agree the 2o yrs is a big gap.. but thats up to your son. The most impt part, right now, is try not alienating him. Talk to this women more.. tho I can see it as quite awkard, lol.
I see red flags, too, but I'm not there (and mostly I'm just trying to answer your ?;s and hopefully give you a better understanding of net relationships.)
Also a ps: for all, bc soon, lol, I gasp too am going to try .. try online dating and sigh will be reveling my real age, which I'm totally against, but as all my friends
(including online).. have told me.. it will be percieved as lying.. if I'm not upfront.. so w/ humor i will put it down..ugh..
Meanwhile, go w/ your gut.. trust your inner feelings and try and get over your fears...if all your feelings are just based on the above, then spend time getting to know her.
psps:
Also my sister got married after 6 wks (she was in the navy and they had to make a quick choice, before she was sent overseas and has now been married, same guy over 20 yrs.. )
forgive the rambling!! ack...and best of luck to you :)!
(just bc I'm getting to know her, doesn't mean, I'd leave any money, or meds around thats for sure!! LOL)
Whispered2008-09-17 13:16:42Yikes, this is a scary prospect. What does your hubby think? Is he just as concerned? I can't remember if you said when she is going home, but maybe you can talk her into staying a bit longer so you all can get to know her a bit better, maybe take her out to lunch and shopping, just the two of you. If she is scamming him, she'll either decline your invite or hopefully accept and you can get lots more info and a better feeling of her intentions.... just a thought. Does your son work, is he willing to give up his life to move there for a time? How will he support himself there or when he comes back. Does she already have children? If so, they are probably his age or close to it. Ack! I just thought of something devious. Plan a party to celebrate, invite all your family and his friends, even if you have to do it quickly, provide lots of bubbly and get her tipsy, lol. Everyone will be trying to get to know her, so there would be lots of questions flying. If it were my son, I would call a private investigator Immediately. My brother is one so it would be easy. They can be expensive, but it would be money well spent!
Best of luck sweetie, and I REALLY mean that.
ok, sorry, I just re-read your post and I guess she has already gone back home. Good. Ben is still here, at least until Nov. Why Nov? Can you talk him into staying until after the holidays? I would still go the PI route if you can... Does she work? Are they planning to get married here? It could be that she just wants to move here and get her citizenship. They get married, she buys a house, after the alloted time, she gets her citizenship and they part ways and split the proceeds. Son may be in on it???? just a thought...Can anyone in England verify her story? If pin cushion could check, it would help. If she is telling the truth, she should be happy to cooperate.Oh my heavens, I think I would have a heart attack! I haven't read the other responses yet, but I just had to say that my heart goes out to you! There is little you can do as he is an adult and will make those decisions without our input now, but you COULD run a background check on her, make sure she doesn't have anything lurking in her past that your son should know before he makes that decision. Ugh. I really feel for you, hon! I will keep you in my thoughts!Sounds fishy to me. I've never had to check anyone out internationally but I am sure there's a way. Anyone can say they are anybody on line, it just sucks for those of us who are concerned about a loved one. I am sorry this is happening to you. And I thought it was bad with my kid being 4 hours away. :(Wow that is interesting. You know how close we seem to be to one another from conversing on the net.
I got a red flag from the mom is dieing and i am inheriting her estate part.
My son plays on line games and is very fond of a music teacher in Canada.
Actually he says all of his best and true friends live in Canada. So he will no doubt go there some day. He is right he chats with the people he plays with they have something in common. But of course they chat about everything not just the game.
A little age difference I do not mind. This is in my opinion a large age difference.
Some times we have to let them find out the hard way. Could be her heart that gets broken instead of his. I mean I do not see him being happy with some old lady for very long. Is she super pretty? Just curious.
I said some friends years ago that took up with younger men. I personally already have children so I could never date anyone that young. I am not in the mind set of adopting any more children is what i am trying to say. So I think there is something wrong with her for getting involved with such a young man.
Well you can't stop them. Try not to worry to much. You can check in with from time to time and vent. Because even if she was not someone from London that he met on the web.
He could still fall in love with someone you may not approve of. We all always worry about our children. And yes if someone lies they are a lier. That doesn't make you feel any better does it? Well let us know when they come back to buy that house. Who knows maybe it will make him happy?
LORSTER, DUUUUUUUH!!!!!Not your thread DONN!!! In the words of yourself...dont read if you dont like. Thought you were leaving I'd just like to point out, as this lady is from the UK - here a purse is what I think you call 'pocket book/wallet' in the US and not what you call a purse (handbag in UK). So she could have lost her 'purse' which contained her cash but not her 'handbag' which may have contained her passport and other documents. So I wouldn't read too much into that aspect.
LORSTER HAS TO ASK IF SHE SHOULD BE CONCERNED?????? DUUUUUHUpdate: Ben has informed us as of last night that he is going a head and heading to England ASAP. He is quitting his job, selling his stuff, storing some of it here and getting a plane ticket. This woman is not at all the kind of woman ben has dated in the past. Ben is tall, dark hair, he could be a model. He is gorgeous. This gal is 43, overweight, and not very pretty. I'm glad Ben is not superficial and bases his relationships on physical appearances. His past girlfriends have been slender and pretty, but they were in their teens. Ben has not had a relationship for about three years when he found his girlfriend cheating on him. We just thought he had given up on women because of that. Instead, he has been online forming a relationship with this woman. The woman is some sort of therapist. She is single, divorced, no children. She says she is 30 on her myspace page so I'm not sure how honest she has been about everything else. I guess time will tell. He needs to learn the hard way...and maybe this will be a life long relationship. We need to accept that, and acccept her into our family. The green card thing has come up in my mind over and over so I do wonder about that. I will keep you all updated. It doesn't sound good. I hope your son doesn't end up being tricked into being a father or losing all of his money. Good luck.You could offer him 00 to wait a year.LET ME KNOW WHEN THE WHEELS FALL OFF THE BUS, LORSTERLor,
I've had a friend and a family member get involved with people we knew were gonna be bad news, and they were. I couldn't get my friend or relative to listen, they learned the hard way -- but you wish you could have saved them from that.
You probably can't stop him but maybe you can delay him. Does he have a passport? That takes some take nowadays doesn't it? Also, once he gets there, what's he gonna do, you can't work in another country without a working permit, right? So maybe encourage him to work a little longer to save up money before going. Maybe ask him to delay going to the UK till after the holidays? Maybe suggest she come back to the States to spend the holidays.
The money thing bothers me. Hasn't she heard of traveler's cheques? Plus, who tells people she barely met that when her mom dies she'll inherit money and then plans to buy a house. Sounds a little cold.
If he does go to England, maybe once he's there he'll realize its not like he imagined it to be and will return home. Make sure he knows he can always come home.
This kind of thing is hard, one has just so much influence, and little control. Take care.
Moxy would you please adopt me? I would love a Mom that gave me 00.00 everytime I made a bad move in the name of love. Wow you would be broke if you were my Mom. LOLBen has a passport. He traveled Europe for three months last year. He is very smart, well educated, has an extensive knowledge of world history, geography and is planning on becoming an attorney. He loves politics and this is how he met her, on political sites. She also wants to go to law school. They do have a lot in common. And he has all the homework done and knows exactly what his plans are. I think he has been planning this for a while. We will support his decision to go and hope for the best. It is all we can do at this point. I just want him to be happy and enjoy his life. I just hate to see him wander so far away. Remember he plans to come home and buy a house. I am sure all will be alright. Lori, if ever you come and visit them over here then let me know. im not far from her at all.[QUOTE=Joie]
If he does go to England, maybe once he's there he'll realize its not like he imagined it to be and will return home. Make sure he knows he can always come home.
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That's worth bearing in mind, after all we do stone strangers in the street here.
Is he taking his chance to escape from an overprotective Momma?
Tinker2008-09-23 03:50:49She does not sound over protective. She vented to us not her son. Every mother is entitled to both worry about there child. As well as miss them if they are going away. Thats just being human.
[QUOTE=Moxy]You could offer him 00 to wait a year.[/QUOTE]
My grandfather (mom's side) offered my father ,000 (this was back in 1966) not to marry my mother. Needless to say he did not accept the offer and I was born a couple years later. It wasn't all roses, though - my parents fought like cats and dogs until their divorce 8 years later. I think the offer of $$$ just encouraged my parents to get married just to piss off their parents.
Originally posted by Joie
If he does go to England, maybe once he's there he'll realize its not like he imagined it to be and will return home. Make sure he knows he can always come home.
I promise we are quite civilized , clean and have manners......well the majority of us. We have fresh food, running water, Electricity and Satelite T.V. We have MacDonalds , good public transport and are able to speak English [QUOTE=milly]She does not sound over protective. She vented to us not her son. Every mother is entitled to both worry about there child. As well as miss them if they are going away. Thats just being human. [/QUOTE]
Hey, I didn't say anything about not being human. Being over protective is human too!
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Originally posted by Joie
If he does go to England, maybe once he's there he'll realize its not like he imagined it to be and will return home. Make sure he knows he can always come home.
I promise we are quite civilized , clean and have manners......well the majority of us. We have fresh food, running water, Electricity and Satelite T.V. We have MacDonalds , good public transport and are able to speak English [/QUOTE]
Pinny, my comment was not a comment about your country, but about life with this woman. When people first get together everything is all nice, but then as one learns about each other and their life situation, or live with them, things change, and one thinks twice about a lifetime commitment.
I didn't mean any offense by my remark, sorry if it sounded that way. I myself would love to visit England, so many things to see, so many famous and interesting people came from there -- but I don't know about that bubble and squeak, I might have to eat at MacDonalds.
Take care and be well.
Joie, I know you didnt mean any harm and no offense was taken...........if ever you get this way pop in for some bubble and squeak...lolWhat the heck is bubble and squeak? LOL Oh, maybe I need to go check out that thread
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