Candida and the Antibiotic Syndrome | Arthritis Information

 

This is more evidence on the importance of probiotics in the diet, and not just for people on antibiotics.

I take both and I feel great. Not postRA great, just plain great.PS---I have often wondered if I would benefit from an anti-Candida diet, but it's a huge undertaking because it's very restrictive and you have to do it for a couple of years.From the article:
"The other day a young man with severe rheumatoid arthritis knocked at my door to collect money for a medically sponsored walkathon. When I told him that I do not give money for drug treatment as it can be overcome with natural therapies, he shouted: 'You are mad!' and left visibly upset."

Interesting indeed.

yes, suzanne, but read the entire article, he doesn't treat with antibotics.  He uses other  alternative therapies.....

stemcell4me2008-09-16 11:44:32 [QUOTE=stemcell4me]

yes, suzanne, but read the entire article, he doesn't treat with antibotics.  He uses other  alternative therapies.....

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I read it.  And I quoted 'natural therapies', which abx aren't.  It's interesting. 
There's a school of thought that a lot of people diagnosed with arthritis actually have severe candida, but without obvious infections and rashes that are the usual clues for such an affliction.

I have to admit I just skimmed the whole article. Later I will read it more carefully.Okay, I read the article carefully.

First, it should be noted this is written by someone who is (or wants to be) one of those "health gurus", who is touting his own remedies.

While there is probably validity in some this, there's nothing new here. Drinking epsom salts, eating raw garlic, and coconut oil remedies have been touted since about forever to cure certain conditions. I do most of those things (I don't drink epsom salts) and I still have arthritis AND I did it before starting long term/low dose abx so that's not why it's not working. It also suggest urine therapy (yuck!), magnetic therapy, drinking iodine, and other highly dubious "drug free" remedies for health ailments.

No where does it mention oil of oregano, or black walnut husk, two known natural anti-fungals with long term track and safety records (I guess he doesn't sell those).

I'm suspicious of statements such as: "Soon afterwards he had a female patient with a stuffy nose, a throbbing headache, vaginitis and severe depression. To his amazement all her problems immediately cleared with Candida treatment."

Candida treatment usually takes about a year, so how could her symptoms clear up immediately?

Another thing that arouses suspicion is at the end of the article it directs you to a site where you can purchase "anti-candida books and products"---all by him, of course.

This article makes too many wild claims to be taken seriously, but it is food for thought, and as always, I applaud the promotion of more probiotics in dietWhy are you so quick to discredit Gimpy... you yourself do wild recipes and alternative. I guess because I really research all my remedies and make sure I have credible information. I don't see that here. This is more like snake oil selling.

I'm not saying candida doesn't exist, or doesn't cause problems, but not enough is known about intestinal microbial bacteria to know you can't do abx and still not get candida. With certain precautions I believe you can, but that's na personal belief I can not validate with scientific proof. But neither can you or he prove you can't.

I wish if you were trying to discredit AP you could at least find credible information sources, instead of trying to scare people off with articles by quacks.


WHAT IS YOUR  PROBLEM?????In don't have a problem.

I am debating the validity of this article. I am outlining the reasons I think it's bunk. Instead of defending it's contents, you are attacking me personally.Really??  The only one attacking is you..maybe you should read your knee jerk responses again... [QUOTE=stemcell4me] WHAT IS YOUR  PROBLEM?????[/QUOTE] I'm still awaiting your reasoned response to why you think this "article" has medical credibility.Tis guys not even a doctor, or a chemist, or a biologist, or a naturopath. He has no credentials whatsoever.where in the above post do I say this article has medical credibility.  I thought the article was interesting and had food for thought, as you said. How is debating the validity of the article you posted cyber bullying? Or is the idea that everything you post above debate, so if anyone points out the many flaws of the article you posted it's a "personal attack".

It seems to me like you're the one bullying and making it personal. All I did was outline point by point why I would question the validity of what this person has written. Instead of defending the article and saying why you think we should consider what it says you try to turn it into a personal fight.


hmm..  let me see My actual words were "I wish if you were trying to discredit AP you could at least find credible information sources, instead of trying to scare people off with articles by quacks. "

I say that because you claim to be impartial, but almost the only things you post on this forum are on the dangers of taking antibiotics.

I do not pretense to be an authority/spokesperson on anything other than my own opinions and knowlege, but that doesn't mean I can't differentiate snake oil from credible information. Either you can't or don't care to.

What is the problem here? You posted something. I posted a list of reasons why I don't give what you posted much credibility. I'm certainly open to hearing you defend the article. You obviously thought it was worthy information, or something, or why would you go to the trouble of posting it?

From my perspective, you're trying to pick a fight.

I rarely post and have posted alot on alternative and my own personal experiences.  My personal experience equals "the dangers of taking antibotics". You know, I'm trying to gussy up here and just want to point out we can only have one 'throw down' a month.   GoGo, since I started mine first.... Sorry Pip, Sounds like it's time to get a generator and a big UPS for the computer!!! HaHa Jas, we have generator but electric came on 24 hrs later because we are lucky enough to be on Emergency Office of Management grid. stemcell4me2008-09-16 19:33:17Hi Stemcell4me........you mentioned you are RA free & medicine free, can I ask how you did that.....thanks AnnI actually found the article very interesting. I can relate to so many things and a lot of what is written makes sense. Maybe I will try it, I havent got anything to lose as all normal RA meds have not worked

Rockin Annie,

I particapted in a clinical trial which performed Stem Cell Transplanation using my own stem cells.  I was accepted due to severity of my disease.  It was a rough journey but made it out the other side.

:) LuAnn

Pinny - cross reference a lot of his info for a more anti-inflammatory diet.  But I do believe he was right on the fungal implications.  I'm battling that and slowly working it down.  There is research on PubMed that that miribus (spelling) fungi will cause a positive RF.  Pretty amazing, isn't it. Pip!2008-09-17 07:43:02Hey Pip, stemcell4me2008-09-17 08:08:18 [QUOTE=stemcell4me]

Rockin Annie,

I particapted in a clinical trial which performed Stem Cell Transplanation using my own stem cells.  I was accepted due to severity of my disease.  It was a rough journey but made it out the other side.

:) LuAnn

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My apologies if you've posted this before, but what was the outcome of the study?  Is this therapy being studied further or used for severe treatment-resistant cases?
LuAnn - Hey Jas, Wow Stemcell, that is great, and thank you for that info.The person who wrote this article isn't even a doctor, how you take it seriously? No matter if I agree or not, its an editorial. I wonder how the "Electronic Zapper & Magnetic Pulser" works.


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