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This will be the "different DMARDs or biologics" appointment.  Will hopefully get some info as well on my jaw.

 
So RD said they'd do x-rays at this visit to look for erosions.  What has everyone's experience been in terms of, do I see him, get x-rays, and have to return for another appt, or wait around?  I'd rather wait around. 
No do not wait around. That was some serious swelling. Serious pain. This could effect your hearing and sleep patterns if left alone. People get RA in there jaw. I do. You fight this to prevent damage. You do not want damage in your jaw or anywhere aruond your jaw. Fight this.I'm voting on sticking around.  You definitely want to know what's going on in the jaw.  There are some rather scary medical conditions attached to the jaw - find out now and 'fight' like Milly says.  If it's just RA, you will be fine no matter what you decide.
 
And if I get a vote -
 
Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
Pip
Ask your docotr if you can wait around and get his opinion once he sees the xrays. He might not want you to wait. If he has to wait on a radiologist to read them first you might not know right away. Mine always calls me or sends a note. They rarely have made any changes after my xrays....unless they've referred me.I am going to copy and paste what I sent to my family below...but, in response to your emails...I had PROMISED that i would ask him about AP and totally forgot again.  If things stay this complicated I am going to start having my husband come with me b/c I am not afraid to ask questions now but I get scattered.  I thought about saying "what about throwing a third DMARD in" but I didn't.  He mentioned a third drug that they use in triple therapy and it didn't sound familiar.  Wasn't minoncin or sulpha I don't think?   Something long and not a brand name.  Also, he didn't x-ray my jaw.  He said they don't have the equipment where they can even get a decent image.  So he wants the oral surgeon to do that.  My appointment is in early November....
 
He was thinking that he had an xray of both hands from before and was going to superimpose them digitally tonight and call tomorrow.  Then he realized he didnt' have x-rays etc. But I dropped them off right after the appt so I'm really hoping I hear from him tomorrow, or I will have to wait a few weeks.   He said he was going to measure joint spaces before and after (although he doesn't have a "before" of my left hand, or my fingers, only my right wrist).  He is just on the fence and apparently doesn't like biologics.
 

Here is my report:

 

  1. Jaw: he agrees that I should see the oral surgeon, and to let him know that this is a refractory RA that we are trying to treat, and that while surgery would not be a good idea, he should assess and help with relief as possible and coordinate with him if necessary.
  2. He felt that there is now a lot less swelling in my wrist, although there is still some left.  He said the loss in range of motion may be permanent, although I might be able to stretch some of the tendons out over time (?)  I told him that my right wrist still hurts a lot, and that my knuckles have been burning recently.  My fingers are hurting bad typing now but he pressed on all of my joints.   I am having more finger/knuckle pain recently.  He asked about my lower back/neck.  I said my lower back does hurt occasionally, but nothing by comparison.
  3. I told him my knees sometimes hurt going up stairs, but he said they didn’t seem swollen.  He was really big on swelling this visit.  I just wanted to say “let me go 5 days without Mobic and I’ll show you some swelling!”  I was really swollen a few days ago and I'm doing somewhat better today, just in time for the appointment (of course)
  4. My throat looks fine and was probably red from allergies.
  5. The indentation in my hand is probably from muscle loss.
  6. He didn’t really give me any insight/advice on my foot and elbow pain.  It’s RA, so…we’re trying to treat it…
  7. He said the outer thigh pain is bursitis.
  8. He found some tenderness in my shoulders that has been there a while.  He said it may be fibromyalgia or something.  But it doesn’t bother me that much in comparison to joint pain (although now it’s sore that he pushed on it!)  But I think those are the only fibromyalgia tender points I have (we went through this last October when he told me I was fine--the rest of the trigger points don't hurt, and my shoulders don't hurt--only when you push on them like that).  He said the forearm pain I've been having might be fibromyalgia but I tend to disagree because it is there when my joints are flaring the worst.  It's new too, just the past few days so I may have just held Jimmy too much this past weekend. 
  9. Unless the x-rays show changes, I will continue to do monthly blood work and see him in 3 months.  He may refer me up to Vandy again if the x-ray comparison is bad.  He was thinking he had x-rays on file but he only ever took a foot x-ray (at the same appointment last October where he told me that he was certain from my blood work that I did not have an autoimmune disease of any kind.  Three months later…)  At that appointment he’d said that my foot had some damage/erosion but that it could be from playing soccer.  I don’t know if you can tell the difference between OA and RA erosion?  At the time he was convinced that I was healthy and just needed to exercise more so I don't put a lot of faith in his resulting opinions as to where bone damage came from.  I went by and picked up some x-rays of my wrist from last November that the GP ordered when this all started and dropped them off to him right after my appt.  Hopefully he will be able to review tonight and call tomorrow because he is out of town all next week.
  10. Right before I left I asked about combination DMARD therapy because he made some reference to it, when discussing that I was on a huge dose of MTX, and if that didn’t work…so I said, what about that?  He said, we could try that, we could go back to the first things we tried.  I told him I’d never been on Plaquenil.  He noted that the Vandy doc had suggested we do that with MTX.  So he said “that’s a good idea” so now I’m on Plaq. too.  Thanks for figuring that out 7 months later.  Although we have discussed this before and he’d said no, if the MTX isn't working Plaq won't help but maybe he was thinking I’d been on it before?  And what I read is that plaq. may help the MTX work.  ANYway…
  11. He is super super hesitant to use biologics, esp in light of recent reports.  I am not thrilled about the idea either, and would think twice if he’d told me to do it, but I’m also not thrilled about not being able to eat a sandwich and having my foot hurt with every step now.  He’s so focused on my wrist but the RA has moved on to other places…
  12. Also, at the last visit, he said that if I was still anemic this time, he might give me a GI referral.  Well I was at 11.7 (under 12 is anemic) and he thought that was okay (?).  I should continue on the Ferrex.  I told him about the stomach burning incident and recent indigestion.  I should probably follow up with the GP to see about this, but he is not overly concerned.  Based on what people have told me about anemia of chronic disease and anemia being a symptom of RA, I’m not too worried. I don’t know why he was all worked up about it last time though. 
  13. My current mood is “whatever.”  At least there’s no doubt its RA now and I’m not being treated like a crazy woman, and hopefully the x-rays will show something, and I have some hope that maybe the Plaq. Will help things, and I have my oral surgeon appointment coming in about a month.  With my luck my jaw will be fine by then, then flare horribly a month later.  But at least he can take x-rays to see if there is damage or not…
Hummm... not sure what to say about your appt... maybe your money back?
 
Ok... when I took Mobic... my stomach would feel like I had just eaten a ball off fire! It only happened a little while after taking the Mobic. I took Mobic fine for over a month, no stomach problems, no burning, no nothing. Then one day... I took it and my stomach felt like it had a ball of fire sitting in it and burning like a bonfire! I thought it might have been because I did not eat with it... so next time I ate something, it still done it, then I tried a full glass of water, then I tried milk, and then I tried antiacids and still none of that worked.  I told my then GP about it, and he told me to discontinue use. It was a shame, because Mobic worked nice on my inflammation.
 
Hope you get some answers about your jaw really soon.
 
The right side of my jaw swells, my left probably does too but not to the extent of my right side. I cannot hear very well out of my right ear when it is swelled... everything is muffled. RD noticed the right side of my jaw swelled when I saw her last visit. I guess the other reason she noticed was because I told her about the TEE incident and my jaw not opening wide enough. So... I know mine is RA for sure, because when my RA is doing well... so is my jaw & hearing.

Yeah, he wasn't really with it today.  It's like he forgot everything he said last time!  But I have vague hope that plaq. will help, and I'm really hoping he calls about the x-rays tomorrow, either way, so I'm not so anxious.

I like my RD as a person, but he can be wishy washy, which is not helpful.  I understand his point, that I can function most days pretty normal, I'm not bedridden, so it's not worth biologics (unless x-rays are crazy).  But he goes back and forth about it rather than just saying "no" to biologics for now.  I guess I appreciate that too, but I dunno.  It's making me a bit crazy.  I'm happy not to start them.  I am hanging in for the time being, but if my jaw gets like that again for any extended period of time, I think I would push for biologics.  I couldn't chew, couldn't talk right, etc. 
 
Eh, oh well.
Well the plaquinil might help. Combination therapy works well for alot of people. Hopefully it will all work out. If not then sure push for more help.
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