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...that many diseases are due to many organisms


Women's Hands Home to More Types of Germs
But all palms contain 100 times the bacteria assumed, scientists say

Posted November 4, 2008

By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter

TUESDAY, Nov. 4 (HealthDay News) -- Women's hands have a veritable United Nations of germs compared to men's, a new study finds.

But both genders house vastly more bacteria on their palms than previously suspected, according to a new study from University of Colorado researchers that appears in this week's issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The information may enable scientists to figure out what a "healthy" level of bacteria is, diagnose diseases more precisely, and perhaps even get advance warning that something is going wrong.

"The findings of the last few decades suggest that many diseases are due to many organisms, and it's the concerted change that leads to disease," noted Robert E. Marquis, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Rochester Medical Center.


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http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2008/11/04/womens-hands-home-to-more-types-of-germs.htmlI heard this on the news and was very surprised.  Do you think it might be from women having longer fingernails?I don't know, wantto. I do know that Dr. Brown, pioneer of AP and author of "The Road Back" discovered that women have 4 times as many mycoplasma in their system as men (at about the same rate women get RA more than men), and people with RA have way more mycoplasma than people that don't have RA.The story in our paper said men usually had more acidic skin and that could play a role.  It also mentioned women use more hand creams, etc. I don't think my blood has ever been analyzed to detect mycoplasma- is that ever done? If you are on AP would those levels be shown as reduced?wanttobe, the tests do exist but they are notoriously difficult and inaccurate. Mycoplasma are tiny and have no cell walls and actually enter other cells and tissuesa. Imagine looking for the inside of a jelly bean that was immersed in a giant tub of hair gel, but at a microscopic level.

It's definitely not routine testing, but if you have RA you have them. The vast majority of people have them, but RAers have them way more.Is it something that would also live outside of the body? On our hands?Wantto, no idea, but I doubt it. Pip! might know.I think even harmful bacteria normally is on the outside, isn't it?  It's just when it gets in and your body can't kick it that you get sick.  But it could be on your hands everyday.

WTB - they tested my daughter for some myco, but there are way more they cannot even test for.  She was neg for what they tested (c. pneumonia, forget what else).
yuck- I hate thinking about stuff crawling around that I can't see....that can make me sick....It's probably because we have to clean up after men all the time Maybe women change more poopy diapers...gee.. who cleans the bathroom in YOUR house?

[QUOTE=babs10]gee.. who cleans the bathroom in YOUR house? HA! My husband cleans our bathrooms and he wears latex gloves LOL!why the title to the thread,  guess what many organisms do cause many disease..even NIH knows that.  Of dispute is if an organism causes THIS disease Really? I must have missed that. So, what other diseases has the NIH been saying are caused by an imbalance of microbes?


""The findings of the last few decades suggest that many diseases are due to many organisms, and it's the concerted change that leads to disease," noted Robert E. Marquis, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Rochester Medical Center. "
I thought the ANA test was for mycoplasmas?I thougth the ANA was for Lupus.  I never thought I had that so I never researched it. There is some interesting googling for ANA and mycoplasmas :)that article did nothing but say that 1) women have more bacteria on their hands then men)  and 2) organisms cause disease.   There was no inadvertant admission of anything.  A first grader can tell you that bacteria cause disease.  You guys are reading far too much into oh...let see... a press release!And an adult can tell you the article doesn't say anything so simplistic as "organisms cause disease" (ie: colds are caused by viruses) but that it's been long suspected than many diseases are caused by an imbalance of microbes. (ie: RA possibly being caused by too many mycoplasma. Just like Dr Brown hypothesised in the 1940's).
That idea is hardly common knowledge. Did you even read the article? And if you did, did you understand it?

Gee Gimpy...I have a college degree in microbiology...yeah I think I can understand the words used in a press release

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Gee Gimpy...I have a college degree in microbiology...yeah I think I can understand the words used in a press release

Excuse me, but there's no call to be snarky here. It's an article, not a press release, and if all it said was "out of 51 people more bacteria was found on the women than on the men" then the article would be one sentence long. It also said ""The findings of the last few decades suggest that many diseases are due to many organisms, and it's the concerted change that leads to disease," noted Robert E. Marquis, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Rochester Medical Center. " which is the part I am commenting on here.

Furthermore, since you're so "up" on microbe science, you must be aware of the Human Microbiome Project which is all about this stuff and also supports the theory that I have chosen to comment on. Perhaps it's old news to you but there are others that might be interested and even if there aren't I'm interested and I will continue to post on re3levant topics which interest me.


Knock yourself out... I will continue to post as well.  As for the snarky comment... all I can say is LOL excuse me...If I recall you questioned my ability to understand what I read.  Buckeye, no kidding it's not new---that's my point.
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