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Recently at a gathering of friends, we were in a discussion about drugs and big pharm and one of the women mentioned that big pharm buys drugs that cure in order to keep them from the sick in order to not lose money from drugs that control rather than cure. Some one asked her for a "for instance" and she said that she wasn't sure of any but that she had been told that big pharm does that. I saw in a previous post that you said pretty much the same thing so I'm asking you to give me a "for example" or two of a cure that was bought by big pharm and then "suppressed" from the sick. Here is your post. Thanks, LEV.

 

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Pharmaceutical companies don't really do a lot of research. Most of it is done at universities and other think tanks. The companies just buy it. And if it's TOO good then they often suppress it. There's no profit in cures.
I'd be interested to hear about this as well. [QUOTE=6t5frlane]I'd be interested to hear about this as well. [/QUOTE]
 
Me too!
 
Lev, The silence is deafening eh. I would have thought that certain someone would have been googling to find something...The "cures" are locked away in the trunk of the legendary 300 MPG car that Detroit's been hiding. [QUOTE=JasmineRain]The "cures" are locked away in the trunk of the legendary 300 MPG car that Detroit's been hiding. [/QUOTE]
 
I hear it runs on antibiotics !!
This might explain it.  Check out reason number 2......
 
The Seven Warning Signs of Bogus Science
 
http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm
Lynne,
 
I liked number 2 and 4. How many times do we hear all of that.
 
A new ford that runs on minocin and gets 300 mpg. What would they call it, the Ford Mino. I thought that maybe Gimpy somehow missed this thread so will bring it to the top again.
 
LEV
Why so nasty?

Janiefx,

Now that you have decided to become a peace angel, are you going to be a complete peace angel or just a peice of a peace angel. In other words, when you attack some other member, are you going to post, "why am I so nasty"? When it's your group of friends attacking another member, are you going to ask them, "why so nasty"? Haven't I read some pretty nasty stuff from you or was that an imposter? Here's one from you:

Well well well, IT (for those of you who don't know, that is lev) had to raise its ugly head, and if you check out every argumentative post, IT is involved spewing forth his confused, biased opinions. I feel sorry for IT, I think they have let him remove his straightjacket for a while. You say I only post on here when there are arguments, I admit freely that I have posted on some, usually only in support of the poor people who are always getting attacked by you and a few others , but the majority...
 
Here is another one straight from your peace angel post:
 
Ha ha - a Lev supporter, you obviously haven't been around long enough for him to attack you yet, (how very high school of me), thats the pot calling the kettle black, check out your own posts before you start criticising others, you sure are living up to your name, making us all ache around here.

Have you any posts where you have been supportive? I doubt it. Oh I don't know why I am bothering and wasting my precious time on you.
 
Yeah Janie, you are what's called a selective peace angel. Disguised as a peace angel you are nothing more than another of the bias group. You make me sick playing the angelic role. How can you live with your phoney self?, No offense, but that's pretty nasty of you, isn't it? Peace angel indeed.
 
LEV
Lev.....
 
 
The only 'nasty' posts I have ever sent are to you Lev or because of you as you are like a turd on the end of a shoe, you don't wipe off very easily and you are a bad smell!  Try to upset me 'IT", you won't succeed as I am a peace angel, and I only stand up for the nice people on the board not you, sitting in your own filth, thinking you are King sh*t, offending anyone you can, if I thought for one minute that you were the owner of this board, I would have to go and vomit, as thats how sick you make me feel!  I have never seen a nice post from you yet, you must be a bitter twisted old man how sad? Get it into your thick skull, you're a little old man who used to be somebody and has no friends now or family to be nice to so to get your attention you try to make other people unhappy.  I just try to allow for age and mental status.  Merry Christmas 'IT".
PS I am glad I make you sick Lev!!!!Gid Ay Lev, good to see you having some fun. [QUOTE=janiefx]PS I am glad I make you sick Lev!!!![/QUOTE]
 
Janie...I haven't interacted with you much on this forum but one thing I do know sweetie....this 'man' hasn't a CLUE about goodness but he sure would like everyone to think he does.
And, he also said you were no peace angel, repeatedly said it.  I doubt that you have ever proclaimed yourself to be a peace angel! One wonders just where/why all his inane raving originated! ( and Im not gonna be debating that or his motives right now)
But, I can tell you that for the few months I have been at this particular forum you have conducted yourself with Grace IMO.  
 
I hope that the posts  you made above gave you some power back. Dont let him or anyone else take yours away.
 
Lyn  xxxxx 
 
 
 
Thankyou Lyn, I am actually annoyed at myself as he gets under everyones skin and tries to really hurt, I would never normally bring myself down to his level, but if he singles me out then he will get it, he was very derogatory in one of his nastier posts to me once, and a few people were asking him to apologise, as you probaby guessed, apology is not in his vocabulary, and as you say, what makes him do it, he must be really evil.  It is a real shame people can't come here to post and feel supported and not afraid that 'it' is going to go into one of his mental raves and scare the newbies off of the board and insult everyone else.  I have no respect for him, I would like to have, as I believe he is an ex-serviceman, but either he lost his mind back then or he is just pure nasty.  Just one thing Lev, imagine the love and respect you would receive from people in general if you tried to be humane.  I don't think there would be many people on here that he hasn't fought with, may I remind you Lev, I have very few and usually only to stand up for the victims!  How many newbies has he cost this forum?

I know he will say he isn't looking for respect/love/friends but please answer Lev, what are you looking for as you sure didn't come here to help people or yourself!  From the Peace Angel!
Edited by me for typo and to add my new sign off name!  
JFX   janiefx2008-12-06 04:41:52People think I'm the forum bully but these same people don't say anything about Levs posts. I guess it is OK for him to act like he does but when i confront it, I'm the bully or the instigator of trouble. Go figure.Phats, 6t5, Jas, Lynn....you ok with what Lev said to Janie? I'm just wondering if this behavior is ok with all of you....or are you all a part of his bad behavior.

No, I'm not trying to stir the pot, just trying to figure out how this forum works. You know......sorta wondering what your rules are.Oh, and gimpy, good for you for keeping the ignore button pushed. I couldn't help myself today. Sorry.
(you may want to delete this one also!)
 
 
Are you stalking me? Your being an ASS lorster. [QUOTE=inflamedOnline]Your being an ASS lorster. [/QUOTE]
 
I must have missed something.  Personally, I didn't think Lorster's post was rude.
[QUOTE=lorster]Phats, 6t5, Jas, Lynn....you ok with what Lev said to Janie? I'm just wondering if this behavior is ok with all of you....or are you all a part of his bad behavior.

No, I'm not trying to stir the pot, just trying to figure out how this forum works. You know......sorta wondering what your rules are.[/QUOTE]
 
This post screams to me:
Pot Stirring, searching for a little action, digging up a thread that should die off, Uh calling more people out, looking for a confrontation, challenging others, etc.......Stupid Post.
 
She answers the obvious: No I am not pot stirring....Blah blah blah...
[QUOTE=lorster]People think I'm the forum bully but these same people don't say anything about Levs posts. I guess it is OK for him to act like he does but when i confront it, I'm the bully or the instigator of trouble. Go figure.[/QUOTE]
 
Just self serving and stupid!
[QUOTE=lorster]Are you stalking me? [/QUOTE]
 
 
No, are you looking for one? I can share mine with you.
 
ASS!
Lorster,
 
I'm not responsible for anyone else's posts but my own.  People post things on this board that I disagree with all the time and they often post nasty comments about some of my posts.   I ignore most of that kind of thing because it really is a waste of time and energy.
[QUOTE=lorster]Phats, 6t5, Jas, Lynn....you ok with what Lev said to Janie? I'm just wondering if this behavior is ok with all of you....or are you all a part of his bad behavior.

No, I'm not trying to stir the pot, just trying to figure out how this forum works. You know......sorta wondering what your rules are.[/QUOTE]

Let's suppose the above-mentioned people aren't OK with a particular post from a particular poster.  What are we supposed to do about it?  Jump into the mêlée and incite a new round of posts?  What good is that supposed to to?  There are many posts that I take issue with but I keep my opinions to myself.

And to be honest, I think I owe Lev an apology.  While I don't agree with some of his postings, I realize now that he's not a troll.  I am sorry for assuming that and repeating that assumption. His posts quite often contain truths that some don't want to hear - that doesn't make him a troll.  And again - if his posts upset you, don't read them. 

I think this whole secret/stolen identity crap and Lev/Ernest speculation has gone on long enough.  If you don't like what goes on here, then by all means please find a board where you're more comfortable.  It's just a messageboard, after all.


Let's suppose the above-mentioned people aren't OK with a particular post from a particular poster.  What are we supposed to do about it?  Jump into the mêlée and incite a new round of posts?  What good is that supposed to to?  There are many posts that I take issue with but I keep my opinions to myself.

And to be honest, I think I owe Lev an apology.  While I don't agree with some of his postings, I realize now that he's not a troll.  I am sorry for assuming that and repeating that assumption. His posts quite often contain truths that some don't want to hear - that doesn't make him a troll.  And again - if his posts upset you, don't read them. 

I think this whole secret/stolen identity crap and Lev/Ernest speculation has gone on long enough.  If you don't like what goes on here, then by all means please find a board where you're more comfortable.  It's just a messageboard, after all.
 
 
I agree!!!!!!!So you all agree with Lev calling people filthy dog vomit? [QUOTE=lorster]So you all agree with Lev calling people filthy dog vomit?[/QUOTE]

Did you not read my post?
[QUOTE=inflamedOnline] I agree!!!!!!![/QUOTE]


I was not asking your opinion. My question was directed at the other 4. [QUOTE=JasmineRain] [QUOTE=lorster]So you all agree with Lev calling people filthy dog vomit?[/QUOTE]

Did you not read my post?
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Apparently not..............

The troll likes to stick the spoon in the pot, then we grab it and start stirring.  It's time to put down the spoon!

[QUOTE=kweenb]

The troll likes to stick the spoon in the pot, then we grab it and start stirring.  It's time to put down the spoon!

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Again, I agree!
 
 
[QUOTE=lorster]So you all agree with Lev calling people filthy dog vomit?[/QUOTE]
 
Did you agree when my stalker called me all those colorful fiflthy names?......no thats right...you think I did it to myself.......So it's ok
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Some of you may say that I was too rough on Janiefx and maybe I was but I'm quite sick of these holier than thou members that think that they are peace angels but in fact are piss angels. There is nothing wrong with being a peace angel as long as the peace angel speaks to everyone including herself/himself and his/her friends. When is the last time anyone has read the janiefx piss angel say something when one of her friends attack me. Not that I need her to or want her to but it shows what kind of piss angel she really is. And Janiefx, I didn't even read your spew of garbage so I can't reply to it.
 
Of course Lorster brings her cockroach ass out of her crack looking to lasso a posse against me as she did with Audrey and Inflamed. Where there is trouble, so is Lorster with her posse. The filthy thing wasn't happy enough when she ran off audrey, she and her posse had to start on Inflamed.
 
As far as Gimpy ignoring, what do you think she is going to do, actually be truthful and say to all of us that she was just talking smack again and that she really doesn't know of big pharm actually buying the cure for money sake as she posted? That's not going to happen. She slammed me on another thread that I started at the same time as I started this thread, so she selectively ignores. I really don't believe that she has that kind of goodness in her to admit she was just talking smack.
 
Those of you that don't like me, again, I wear it like a badge of honor but if you are going to play peace angel, you have to do it without bias or predjudice or you are just a piss angel like janiefx.
 
LEV
There is only one fox in all this and it appears that the fox only has to walk close by and the chickens fly off in a panic.

The fox has a really good laugh when they re-enter the Den while the chickens are still flapping about all over the place.

Some form of bridge is needed so we can get over it, and move on.

Let me offer this small token.......
Thanks Lev, I love you too!!!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
justsaynoemore2008-12-06 21:02:19I got suspicious when Lev started his post with ( Recently with a gathering of friends)  Starting off with a bunch of lies. We know you have no friends Lev.

You knew this was going to be just another bad thread .
Anyway I have come back to find everyone still fighting. This is amazing!!   JSNM- not one of those articles addressed the original question which was to provide specific instances where a CURE was bought and suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry. 
The articles you provided discussed pricing and suppression of generics.  As generics contain the same active ingrediants as the name brand drug you can say that lower priced drugs are suppressed but not a cure to a specific disease.
[QUOTE=buckeye]JSNM- not one of those articles addressed the original question which was to provide specific instances where a CURE was bought and suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry. 
The articles you provided discussed pricing and suppression of generics.  As generics contain the same active ingrediants as the name brand drug you can say that lower priced drugs are suppressed but not a cure to a specific disease.
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As much as I wanted to SEE the question answered...I agree it was not addressed.
Darn!
 
 
I knew I would take the hit for you
 
No comment on these documented bad practices which screw us over, just wanting proof about illegalities that any open-minded, intelligent person would deduce is and has happened - Lev, buckeye, inflammed - did you really believe there would be documentation of this illegal practice?  Or you are totally convinced it doesn't happen?  Where's your proof of that premise? Come on, get real. 
 
Edited:  PS  Hey ThinkThin - good to see you!  This board wouldn't be any fun if the brainwashed only medical doctors know best vs. the patient who questions war wasn't raging [QUOTE=buckeye]JSNM- not one of those articles addressed the original question which was to provide specific instances where a CURE was bought and suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry.  JSNM, Gimpy....it is a form of sheep syndrome. Its ok though. These people will continue to follow and not take any initiative to think for themselves. If Joe the plumber thinks it is....it is. I trust no one. I question everything.
Suzanne - good point, I went back and reread it, and Larry is asking GoGo to prove the statement of a friend of his at a party she wasn't at - now that's some gaul.  Good thing GoGo is ignoring it, it's stupid. 
 
Lori - I know - it's sheep/lemming syndrome, which I could find millions of references to.

Secrets get out so if some scientist came up with a cure and it was suppressed someone somewhere, esp with all the whistle blowers out therem, would be screaming it to th high heavens.

Ive never once said that medical doctors know everything nor do I blindly follow my medical team.  In fact it is often the supposedly free thinking patients around here who are the most closed mind as they can't see any further than thier own pet theories. 

Hey...........Easy Jsnm.................I was rooting for Gimpy.....I don't want proof of anything..

"did you really believe there would be documentation of this illegal practice?"

Gosh......you kind of led us to believe that you were posting the ACE in there hole....And yes I would think if they caught companies partaking in illegal practices, that there would be news report....I mean they report other crimes. Right?

So stop trying to make a argument where there is none...for me anyways...I have nothing to argue with you about....It just didn't answer the question.

And I think Gimpy was doing a fine job ignoring whoever she wants to ignore, and I can say from experience....good intentions of others, sometimes really don't "help".

I am done......and I am stepping away from this thread .....this thread should of died along time ago...for gimpy sake....

Oh ...one more thing...." I knew I would take a hit for you"....sort of inflammatory remark...usually never comes across well....sorry...

Best Wishes to all,

Lisa

IO - you are the last person on this Board who should lecture about inflammatory remarks.  And "taking the hit for you" is a commonly used phrase, because, once again, it was right on for this thread.  I know I saw something about Amgen getting busted for stealing - I don't recall seeing that all over the news.  Theft is theft.  Does anybody see CEO's in jail?  I mean, real jail for a serious amount of time instead of 'resort jails' and bailouts?
 
And how come nobody on this board ever answers my questions -
 
1) if if is an intracellular infection, what would be in inevitable outcome of immunosuppression?  Note Lev can't even research THAT one.
 
2) Why are me and my peeps getting such great AP results compared to the official 'studies'?
 
3) Why are we wasting time answering this wuss?  I mean, really, he should 'man up' and meet me instead of just attacking others cuz he's chicken.  Typical bully - can't face the big bad so he goes and hits on the smaller fish. 
 
Pip
Aside from the whole Audrey deal.........All ever have done is defend myself....
 
If youre sincere about the "hit"....then take it with a lump of sugar...I was just pointing out your post didn't ...aww forget it..........................
[QUOTE=buckeye]

JSNM/Lorster  its not sheep thinking to understand that dancing around the issue does not answer the specific question. 


Secrets get out so if some scientist came up with a cure and it was suppressed someone somewhere, esp with all the whistle blowers out therem, would be screaming it to th high heavens.


Ive never once said that medical doctors know everything nor do I blindly follow my medical team.  In fact it is often the supposedly free thinking patients around here who are the most closed mind as they can't see any further than thier own pet theories. 

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No Buckeye, its those free thinking patients that actually have a wider range of treatment options because they are able to think outside of the big pharma box.

I'm of the opinion, buckeye and lorster are both right.. but too stubborn to see.

ANY of us who limit ourselves to conventional, or unconventional programs and treatments, east or west, pharma or not.. are the ones losing...

Keep your options open..your ears alert..your mind focused..and your heart in it..and find what is going to work for you..because WE are the only ones who can be our own advocates... it's silly to argue w/ each other... but instead, present true real information to allow each of us to chose what is right for us... arguing is wasting energy better used.

Best to you all
It's true that a friend of mine did make the statement that big pharm buys up new drugs for money sake but she was big enough to admit that she had just heard that about big pharm. but nonetheless, Gimpy made the same claim and here it is, again:
 
Pharmaceutical companies don't really do a lot of research. Most of it is done at universities and other think tanks. The companies just buy it. And if it's TOO good then they often suppress it. There's no profit in cures. Is that good enough for you Suzanne.
 
Janeifx, I love you too but we better keep it on the down low. If your friends here at AI find out, they will probably kick you to the curb.
 
I thought alot about big pharm buying up a cure and I too like everyone has heard rumors. You know rumors.
 
noun
  1. general talk not based on definite knowledge; mere gossip; hearsay
  2. an unconfirmed report, story, or statement in general circulation

If I'm not mistaken JSNM and a couple of others seem to feel that rumors are acceptable facts, rediculus. I'm sure we've all heard about the 300mpg engine that ford bought the patent for, right Jaz? Let's just say that a science and biology firm had found a cure for diabetes. Does anyone really believe that everyone involved with that cure would keep their mouth shut? Can you imagine any person of science, contributing his/her life to helping the sick, even if offered a billion dollars would accept it and still watch as feet, legs are amputated and lives lost because of diabetes? It doesn't make sense and that's one of the reasons that I don't take Gimpy, JSNM, Suzanne and Pip very seriously. Remember how we used to be bombarded with all the snippets of the so called "multiple studies"? Remember how we were given bits and peices of the Harris Poll as if it were a medical study. Then I showed that it was an e-mail marketing study. Pip offers us statistics of 90% and 75% cure rate for thos with arthritis on minocin and when she's called on it, she claims, with-out embarrassment that those stats are from "her" studies. Imagine that. How can she and they be taken seriously? Seriously. Here's my study, the yeast has gotten to her brain. The very same people constantly rag on the Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins and other top rated hospitals and institutions and they aren't embarrassed to state that "they" are right and the hospitals are backwards. That's why I don't take yous seriously. And Pip, you don't have rheumatoid arthritis. Yous used to quote the ACR like a bible (in snippets) and now that the ACR has put minocin at the very bottom of the list for therapies, yous quit using them, right? When we had a couple of people say that they had tried AP therapy and it didn't work and that they actually had joint damage from the ra during the AP therapy, Pip tells them that they didn't follow the protocol correctly, "it's very hard to follow" she tells them. Are they in your study Pip? You are so far ahead of the curve, Pip, you would think that science would be bidding for you knowledge but instead you waste your brain here.

This was posted by JSNM, can you believe this?
 
"No comment on these documented bad practices which screw us over, just wanting proof about illegalities that any open-minded, intelligent person would deduce is and has happened - Lev, buckeye, inflammed - did you really believe there would be documentation of this illegal practice?  Or you are totally convinced it doesn't happen?  Where's your proof of that premise? Come on, get real."    How would you like JSNM on your jury?
 
"Edited:  PS  Hey ThinkThin - good to see you!  This board wouldn't be any fun if the brainwashed only medical doctors know best vs. the patient who questions war wasn't raging
 
And thinkthin, good to see you could come back to take a jab at me. Where's Janiefx?
 
Lorster, why do you always need a group to fight your battles. And what do you think your little gang should do. Oh yeah, follow your lead, you know, delete all of your nasty posts and then file a complaint against LEVLarry to ADMIN. You're so smart when you do that.
 
Lastly, this wasn't a nasty thread. It's a known fact that if you post smack at this forum, I am going to call you on it. That's my job.
 
LEV
Oh thank GAWD, Lev is the paid smack down poster on AI - we are saved ![QUOTE=justsaynoemore]Oh thank GAWD, Lev is the paid smack down poster on AI - we are saved ![/QUOTE]
 
 
UH.....Lev? When did I file a report to Admin about you? Do you know this to be true? And if so, how do you know this?

If I did file a complaint....and I'm not saying I did or didn't but you sure have info you should not have.....unless of course....you are close in some way to admin.

Hmmmm, guess we will all have to tuck that pickle in our pockets and think on it.

Oh...another question...Do you get paid for this?[QUOTE=levlarry]It's true that a friend of mine did make the statement that big pharm buys up new drugs for money sake but she was big enough to admit that she had just heard that about big pharm. but nonetheless, Gimpy made the same claim and here it is, again:
 
Pharmaceutical companies don't really do a lot of research. Most of it is done at universities and other think tanks. The companies just buy it. And if it's TOO good then they often suppress it. There's no profit in cures. Is that good enough for you Suzanne.
 
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It is what it is.  I don't read minds. I was responding to other posts that seemed to attribute your friend's comments to Gogo, that's all.  You could color-code it like this, too. 
 
Pharmaceutical companies don't really do a lot of research. Most of it is done at universities and other think tanks. The companies just buy it. And if it's TOO good then they often suppress it. There's no profit in cures.
I feel the need to chime in..
 
but I guess If I don't get nasty.. no one listens...  but I dont' feel as though I need to stoop at this time..
 
whatever... I have a friend in NC who is a scientist (for GSK).. who (are you all listening?????) actually works on medications and discoveries... I wish I could remember exactly what it was that she has her name on.. (I will ask and reply)
 
so.. I'm sure that scientists who work at pharma companies would be very disheartened to hear that they dont' exist
 
 
eta: GSK
babs102008-12-07 15:09:32 [QUOTE=babs10] Oh...another question...Do you get paid for this?[/QUOTE]
 
 
Reply comin' up soon for sure!  (ETA: I think he has popped off to do some further research....was here reading this thread 5 minutes ago.
 
LOLOLOLOL QUOTE]
 
 
Your kidding...right?....sigh.....this is really stupid.
[QUOTE=justsaynoemore]IO - you are the last person on this Board who should lecture about inflammatory remarks.  And "taking the hit for you" is a commonly used phrase, because, once again, it was right on for this thread.  [/QUOTE]
 
Amen to that one!  Have you read her garbage?  She's one of those bipolar chicks.  Happy and giddy one day and the next slammin the sh*t out of people.
Suzanne,
 
I liked your color coding also. Here is some that I like the best:
"The companies just buy it. And if it's TOO good then they often suppress it." Now if you will be so kind as to ask your ignoring friend Gimpy, which companies just buy it and if it's TOO good then they often suppress it. So which companies and which TOO goods have been suppressed. I think that it's a shame that you and Gimpy and JSNM and Pip are so anti-establishment. It's a shame that yous feel that the whole United States is made up of criminals and corruption and that our doctors care more for money than my mom's good health. And yes, JSNM, I don't believe that it happens. I don't live in yours' world. A world of negativity where everyone and thing is corrupt and criminal. It's just that simple.
 
LEV
Lev, answer my question and.....

there are few doctors left that really care about your mothers good health, trust me on that one Lev. [QUOTE=inflamedOnline] [QUOTE=lorster]UH.....Lev? When did I file a report to Admin about you? Do you know this to be true? And if so, how do you know this? If I did file a complaint....and I'm not saying I did or didn't but you sure have info you should not have.....unless of course....you are close in some way to admin. Hmmmm, guess we will all have to tuck that pickle in our pockets and think on it. Oh...another question...Do you get paid for this?[/QUOTE]


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Why do you feel the need to comment on everything I say?   If you don't agree, that is fine, but I don't do that to you. Please have some respect. [QUOTE=lorster] [QUOTE=inflamedOnline] [QUOTE=lorster]UH.....Lev? When did I file a report to Admin about you? Do you know this to be true? And if so, how do you know this? If I did file a complaint....and I'm not saying I did or didn't but you sure have info you should not have.....unless of course....you are close in some way to admin. Hmmmm, guess we will all have to tuck that pickle in our pockets and think on it. Oh...another question...Do you get paid for this?[/QUOTE]
 

 

Your kidding...right?....sigh.....this is really stupid.
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Why do you feel the need to comment on everything I say?   If you don't agree, that is fine, but I don't do that to you. Please have some respect. [/QUOTE]
 
What like the respect you show?
I don't know lorster, I feel you are on a mission to stir sh*t, are you bored? However, I will do my best to refrain in the future.
 
 
 
Respectfully,
Lisa
 
 
 
 
Yesterday. You asked me to unblock you. I did. I didnt realize my box was full until after I got home last night and you had posted that you had given up. So, lets take this little spat to pms so others don't have to put up with it.[QUOTE=inflamedOnline][QUOTE=lorster] [QUOTE=inflamedOnline] [QUOTE=lorster]UH.....Lev? When did I file a report to Admin about you? Do you know this to be true? And if so, how do you know this? If I did file a complaint....and I'm not saying I did or didn't but you sure have info you should not have.....unless of course....you are close in some way to admin. Hmmmm, guess we will all have to tuck that pickle in our pockets and think on it. Oh...another question...Do you get paid for this?[/QUOTE]
Your kidding...right?....sigh.....this is really stupid.
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Why do you feel the need to comment on everything I say?   If you don't agree, that is fine, but I don't do that to you. Please have some respect. [/QUOTE]
 
What like the respect you show?
I don't know lorster, I feel you are on a mission to stir sh*t, are you bored? However, I will do my best to refrain in the future.
Respectfully,
Lisa[/QUOTE]
 
Lisa?  Respect?  She doesn't know the meaning of the word!!!  That was funny, I nearly spit out my drink from laughing at that one. 
[QUOTE=levlarry]Suzanne,
 
I liked your color coding also. Here is some that I like the best:
"The companies just buy it. And if it's TOO good then they often suppress it." Now if you will be so kind as to ask your ignoring friend Gimpy, which companies just buy it and if it's TOO good then they often suppress it. So which companies and which TOO goods have been suppressed. I think that it's a shame that you and Gimpy and JSNM and Pip are so anti-establishment. It's a shame that yous feel that the whole United States is made up of criminals and corruption and that our doctors care more for money than my mom's good health. And yes, JSNM, I don't believe that it happens. I don't live in yours' world. A world of negativity where everyone and thing is corrupt and criminal. It's just that simple.
 
LEV
[/QUOTE] Well Larry, since its your job to know everything, why are you asking for proof of someone's opinion, why are you so pro-establishment?  With the worldwide meltdown of the "establishments" running of our financial system, why are you still kissing establisment's butt and sucking up to them?   Surely with your all-knowing, all-seeing powers, that only you know whats best for everyone in this forum and all of the world, are the only person on Earth who knows the answers to everything, and mostly YOU ARE THE ONE WHO DECIDES WHO TOES THE LINE IN HERE, why don't you ask your toadies with the AMA and the Big Pharmas to answer your questions?  I am now with GoGo, there is no point trying to have any sort of human debate with you, let along reading your windy, puffed-up pontifications spewing vile and hatred at anyone who dares to cross you, and lastly, your self-proclaimed Emperor proclaimations, because you know it all, so good luck and have fun on Judgment Day.  Goodbye, Ernest.  justsaynoemore2008-12-08 04:40:01well. from the horse's mouth.. I told my friend who is a scientist at GSK (with a drug in Phase II clinical trials, an Exception Science Award -- and has two patents)
about the assumptions and beliefs here regarding research and working on new meds...s he said:
 
Well, first of all, you can't buy a patent, but you can pay the patent holder to have a license to be able to sell the drug in various countries.

Many Pharmas now do a mix of their own research and licensing in drugs. It has become so expensive to develop drugs that companies will choose their areas that they wish to focus their research and then look for good opportunities elsewhere.

And as an FYI, very few drugs come from universities. We often have collaborations with university researchers to test some of our drugs or to do the biological research around a certain target. But they are not making any drugs. The one exception to that here was an HIV drug years ago. Often people cite this when it is the exception more than the rule. If we waited for the government or universities to produce drugs there would be no new drugs for years and years. we are just not set up to to that. Neither are other countries.
 
ETA some of her credentials
babs102008-12-08 07:58:40 [QUOTE=lorster]UH.....Lev? When did I file a report to Admin about you? Do you know this to be true? And if so, how do you know this?

If I did file a complaint....and I'm not saying I did or didn't but you sure have info you should not have.....unless of course....you are close in some way to admin.

Hmmmm, guess we will all have to tuck that pickle in our pockets and think on it.

Oh...another question...Do you get paid for this?[/QUOTE]

If someone reported another poster to the administrator, I imagine the administrator would have some communication with the alleged offender.  He/she might tell the offender what was said and/or who said it, so that the alleged offender could modify his/her behavior appropriately.  Otherwise - what would be the point of making the complaint?  Even if the administrator did not disclose the name of the poster making the complaint, the alleged offender would probably have a good idea of who made the complaint.
JasmineRain2008-12-08 14:01:37If the admin talked to Lev about his behavior, it sure didn't do any good. [QUOTE=lorster]If the admin talked to Lev about his behavior, it sure didn't do any good.[/QUOTE]

But that's a far cry away from saying that Lev is the administrator or is best buddies with the administrator.you people don't want to talk RA.. or associative diseases... or pharma companies or any other important articles on this site..
 
you just want to bitch.....
 
have at it......... 
What a liar you are Gimpy. How's that ostrich disease? Painful?

LEV
You really have to wonder about the mental health of a human who holds on to a resentment for over 6 weeks, and finally their insanity spills over into bringing their psychosis up again for us all to see.  Larry, you need mental help, serious mental help, immediately.  Please, you are a great person and a good contributor to this site, but this one insane part of your psyche needs medical attention.  Good luck.    Jsnm,

I'm just a little sick of your "just like you" idiot friend making false statements especially about me. Why can't your idiot friend speak for herself. She said she knew that cures were bought to prevent the world from them and all she can do is send an idiot like you to make excuses for her so shut your filthy biased mouth and let Gimpy-a-liar explain her own lies, you have enough trouble explaining your own lies.

LEV
Lev - I will do the only thing I can do for other people, and that is to pray that you get everything you ever wish for:  health, prosperity, success, happiness, peace.  Good luck.  Jsnm,

You need to pray for your own damned self. I certainly do not want or need prayers from someone like you.

LEV
Oh well, you are getting them no matter what.  Along with everyone else.  I pray that every one of us find our answers to our health, win the lotto, get a promotion, met the love of their life ... everything you have always wanted, wished, hoped for.  I pray for these things to happen for everyone.  It is against the rules to pray for your personal wants and hopes, I leave that to a Higher Power.  You take care Larry, I worry about you, I hope you find some acceptance from your resentments and angers.  Love and huggles ~~ CathyJSNM What a nice turnaroundLev...I agree with JSMN.....you sure do need help.
 

do you ever have ANYTHING positive to say ever?  Are you even capable of compassion?

 

You do realize this is an RA SUPPORT board and not political hate talk board.  That people are here to support each other first... or is that your target group, the sick and chronic pain sufferers.  Maybe that's your whole point.  A healthy person would have left this site a long time ago and you would just have yourself to nit pick away at. 

 

You are enjoying chaos and discord waaaay too much, my friend.  just scanning the replies and old posts for anything under the sun  that will cause chaos.  No peace, no calm, no support, encouragement, just daggers for words.

 

I will agree with JSNM about praying for you, but then I would add maybe a bath in holy water and an exorcism might help some as well.

Lorster,
I didn't know you were thought of as a bully here.  I hope I didn't offend when I said "see what you started" on the historic day post.  I said it playfully.  Hard to get playful across on this board, however.  I just couldn't believe how the thread went on and on forever.
 

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