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While chronic inflammation is widely believed to be a predisposing factor for colon cancer, the exact mechanisms linking these conditions have remained elusive. Scientists at the Melbourne Branch of the international Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research (LICR) and the Technical University Munich have jointly discovered a new piece of this puzzle by demonstrating how the Stat3 protein links inflammation to tumor development, a discovery that may well lead to the identification of new therapeutic targets for colon cancer.

Aberrant activation of the intracellular signaling protein, Stat3, has been associated with inflammation and several cancers, including those of the gastrointestinal tract. The results published on-line today in the journal Cancer Cell provide the first direct evidence confirming the role for Stat3 in inflammation-associated tumorigenesis. Using an inflammation-associated cancer model in genetically manipulated mice, the team identified a relationship between epithelial cell Stat3 activity and colonic tumor incidence, as well as tumor growth. They also determined that stimulation of Stat3 by the cytokines IL-6 and IL-11, chemicals produced by inflammatory and other tumor-associated cells, promotes both cell survival and growth of tumor cells.

The collaboration was sparked by discussions between Professors Matthias Ernst (LICR) and Florian Greten (Technical University Munich) at a scientific meeting, when they discovered they were both individually pursuing the mechanism by which Stat3 links inflammation to gastrointestinal cancers. Rather than compete, the two decided to join forces to discover the Stat3 connection between inflammation and colon cancer.

"Colon cancer is the second most frequent malignancy in the developed world so it was no surprise to find another group working on the Stat3 question and trying to find new ways to target colon cancer," said LICR's Professor Ernst, the joint senior author of the publication. "Together we've been able to learn how Stat3 bridges chronic inflammation and tumor promotion by mediating cell survival during an inflammatory event and enhancing tumor cell growth. Our new findings are very much in line with our previous work on the role of Stat3 in mediating inflammation- associated gastric cancer. We expect this knowledge to strengthen efforts for the development of therapeutics that target the link between inflammation and cancer to ultimately benefit the treatment of cancer patients."

Incidentally, the group of Professor Michael Karin from the University of California at San Diego, has reached similar conclusions in paper published in the same issue of Cancer Cell.

 
 
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/137626.php
Lynn492009-02-03 15:08:23Interesting.  I have a friend who is an M.D. doing cancer research at UCSD and she herself has had colon cancer.Do you really think Ivypoe will be coming back? After the way she was treated on this forum?[QUOTE=Gimpy-a-gogo]Do you really think Ivypoe will be coming back? After the way she was treated on this forum?[/QUOTE]
 
I have no idea.  I don't have any control over other people's behavior...
Thanks Lynn, I had read a short article  recently that pointed in that direction and I couldn't find it.  Lindy I've had RA for 32 years and been on some type of biologic for 7 years, so years of RA could increase my chances of colon cancer, or, these biologics could increase my chances of colon cancer.

But there are also people who don't have RA, who don't take biologics, that get colon cancer.

I think what people should take from these posts is to get a colonoscopy.  I believe colon cancer is a slow growing cancer, so if caught early, it can be successfully treated.  This is something to discuss with one's primary and rheumatologist about when would be appropriate for one to have this test.

Lynn you might not have any control over someones behaviour but you have control over the way you speak to them..if someone has cancer and they have been told by their doctor that a certain drug was the cause what qualifications do you have to tell them any different...you only have what you read on many of your internet sites . Maybe Ivys doctor found something to prove his theory.[QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]Lynn you might not have any control over someones behaviour but you have control over the way you speak to them..if someone has cancer and they have been told by their doctor that a certain drug was the cause what qualifications do you have to tell them any different...you only have what you read on many of your internet sites . Maybe Ivys doctor found something to prove his theory.[/QUOTE]
 
You most certainly are entitled to your opinion.  I've looked for "proof" to confirm what the RD said.  I have been unable to find anything.....
 
As is evidenced by the statements made on this forum, different doctor's say vastly different things to their RA patients.  I want to be able to back up those statements with facts, research studies, etc.  
 
You may want to accept with blind faith what someone says on a RA message board...I'm not willing to do that.  My health is much to important to me and my family.
I can understand that Lynn and im  not putting your views down at all. you do provide some excellent info but Ivy was told by her doctor that it has caused her cancer .  She was questioned quite harshly. She has so much to deal with and came here looking for support. We only know what we read in articles on the internet...whose to say these articles are true...my doctor tells me to ignore most of them as they are inaccurate and he is the head Rheumy in the UK

 I read and post the articles in rheumatology and other journals including the New England Journal of Medicine.  I also search on PubMed.  These are the journals and articles that the docs are reading....

Edited to add...
This is where the article about colon cancer and inflammation came from:
The Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research (LICR) is the largest international non-profit institute dedicated to understanding and controlling cancer. With operations at 73 sites in 17 countries, LICR's research network quite literally spans the globe. LICR has developed an impressive portfolio of reagents, knowledge, expertise, and intellectual property, and has also assembled the personnel, facilities, and practices necessary to patent, clinically evaluate, license, and thus translate, the most promising aspects of its own laboratory research into cancer therapies.

Source: Sarah White, Ph.D.
Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research
Lynn492009-02-03 15:16:08Thanks for the sources I would be interested in my Rheumys views and will ask him. [QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]Lynn you might not have any control over someones behaviour but you have control over the way you speak to them..if someone has cancer and they have been told by their doctor that a certain drug was the cause what qualifications do you have to tell them any different...you only have what you read on many of your internet sites . Maybe Ivys doctor found something to prove his theory.[/QUOTE]
 
This is a support site true but should we allow blantently incorrect information go unchallenged.  this is how bad information gets out there.  I feel for Ivy but if she is coming on any arthritis site and making a claim about medications that we all use then we do have the right to question her source
she wasnt making the claim...her doctor was. Maybe we should ask for drs info so we can challenge them directly..Ivy didnt say the cancer was caused by the enbrel..her doctor said it. I am also a concerned patient as I have been on enbrel, I have friends on enbrel who are doing so well. Ivy probably thought we should know the dangers if her doctor has given her that diagnosis [QUOTE=Lynn49][ [QUOTE=buckeye][QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]Lynn you might not have any control over someones behaviour but you have control over the way you speak to them..if someone has cancer and they have been told by their doctor that a certain drug was the cause what qualifications do you have to tell them any different...you only have what you read on many of your internet sites . Maybe Ivys doctor found something to prove his theory.[/QUOTE]
 
This is a support site true but should we allow blantently incorrect information go unchallenged.  this is how bad information gets out there.  I feel for Ivy but if she is coming on any arthritis site and making a claim about medications that we all use then we do have the right to question her source
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I agree with buckeye! 
If we were to read half of what was put on the internet we would all be raving hyperchondriacs. [QUOTE=Suzanne] Does anyone else feel there is double standard here sometimes?  [/QUOTE]

Every time I log in!
[QUOTE=Suzanne] Does anyone else feel there is double standard here sometimes?    [/QUOTE]

I know I sure do.

well... I think documentation from a leading cancer research institute will weigh over an off-handed remark by an RD...  double standard or not..
 
document...document... document...
 
I, for one, am very glad that Lynn does the research she does and provides us w/ questions to our RDs and options for our lives... thank you, Lynn..keep up the good work.
 
and remember:  Don't shoot the messenger.
[QUOTE=babs10]well... I think documentation from a leading cancer research institute will weigh over an off-handed remark by an RD...  double standard or not..
 
 
you mean this FDA? 
 
In an interview that aired Monday, Obama said the agency’s failure to recognize and intercept the products was only the latest of numerous “instances over the last several years” in which “the FDA has not been able to catch some of these things as quickly as I expect them to catch.”
 
 
 http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28969400/
 
I said "A" leading cancer institute... not "THE" leading cancer institute as you posted.
 
I'm tired of my words being changed to suit everyone elses' agendas........

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Inflammation Linked to Colon Cancer

Cancer Risk More Than Doubled With Elevated Levels of Protein That Signals Inflammation
By Salynn Boyles
WebMD Health News

Feb. 3, 2004 -- Elevated blood levels of the inflammation marker C-reactive protein (CRP) have been linked to an increased risk for heart attack and stroke. Now early research suggests the protein may also play a role in the development of colon cancer.

In a study involving almost 23,000 people followed for roughly a decade, researchers found CRP concentrations in blood were higher among those who later developed colon cancer. Lead researcher Thomas Erlinger, MD, tells WebMD that the strength of the association was similar to that previously shown for heart disease.

While the findings add to the evidence linking inflammation with colon cancer risk, the Johns Hopkins investigator says more research is needed to determine if elevated C-reactive protein is a useful predictor of the risk of colon cancer. "The fact that we found this association is interesting, even though it does not prove a causal association between elevated CRP and colon cancer," Erlinger says.

Risk More Than Doubled

A cardiovascular epidemiologist, Erlinger says he decided to investigate the role of CRP in colorectal cancer because of the increasing evidence identifying inflammation as a risk factor for the disease.

Moreover, several studies have shown a reduced risk of colon cancer with the use of aspirin and other anti-inflammatory drugs, he says.

"We now know that people with inflammatory conditions like inflammatory bowel disease are at increased risk for colon cancer," he says.

The study included 22,887 adults followed from October 1989 to December 2000. A total of 172 colorectal cancer cases were identified during the period. The researchers compared these people's CRP levels at the beginning of the study with other participants of similar age, sex, and race who did not develop cancer.

C-reactive protein levels were much higher in those who later developed colon cancer. Compared with people with the lowest CRP levels, those with the highest were 2.5 times as likely to have a later diagnosis of colon cancer, but no increase in risk was seen for rectal cancer. The findings are published in the Feb. 4 issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association.

I read a book about a woman who has colon cancer, her c- reactive protein levels were high
yes, Mrs. Pinnie... but Ivypoe's RD said it was the enbrel....... 
 
also.. you must treat your inflammation and that thereby, reduces your risk.. THAT came from my RD>

Yes Babs I know and I wasnt referring to this inline with with Ivy...

We are all responsible for getting our inflamation down, making sure our Doctors treat us with proper care and medication...and I am not against enbrel, humira, rutiximab, I have been on these meds even knowing there COULD be a risk. The thing with IVY was the fact that she never said it was the meds, it was her doctor, we dont know what tests and what findings her doctor came up with to get to that diagnosis...Maybe he has uncovered something....I am skeptical with believing all I read on the net...I do believe inflammation can cause a lot of problems( living proof) . Im not against what Lynn49 posts, some of  her posts have been helpful to lots of us, but i dont read too much into everything as there are people out there who are living proof that RA wont cause an early death, it wont cause heart propblems, its doesnt make you disabled.....these are maybes...and can scare sufferers...I refuse to live in fear of this disease ( with my head out of the sand)...its about being sensible and knowing your own body.

[QUOTE=babs10] [QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]

its about being sensible and knowing your own body.

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Look, I post articles, all kinds of articles.  Articles from research studies,  medical journals and newspapapers.   I think people here are smart enough to read the article and apply whatever is it to their own situation.
  I've even had some posters tell me they print the articles out and take it to their RD.  Which I think is a good thing, an informed patient makes better decisions.....
 
  In my opinion, there is no such thing as too much knowledge and I don't think it's fearmongering to point out the seriousness of RA.  It's a systematic disease and yes, some people may never have a heart attack, or serious joint damage, or die early, but there are many people who do!
 
I don't live in fear because I have RA.  I live with hope that things are getting better for people with RA and will continue to improve until there is a cure.
To be aware of things has absolutely nothing to do with living life to its fullest.  I try and do that everyday. 
 
 
Ivey said in her original post that she "truly believed that enbrel caused the cancer" so she had that thought before talking to her doctor..its possible that she interperted her doctors response to support her belief but we will never know.  She wouldn't respond when people asked her to clarify what her dr said.
I wish the best for Ivypoe whether her colon cancer was caused by Enbrel or not.  Time will tell how things turn out, if the FDA has had other reports of colon cancer, if they have covered them up, etc. etc. etc.I'm waiting for proof, not innuendo.......... Happy waiting.What I don't understand is...TNF's block a molecule that is used to marshall the body's defense against cancer.  What does everybody think tumor necrosis means anyway?  It literally translates to 'tumor death'.  So, if you block this 'factor', of course your incidence for cancer in the general population would go up.  We're already under 'systemic inflammation' that increases our chances of contracting cancer - if we also remove a 'throttle' on what naturally suppresses cancer in the body - what do we think is going to happen?
 
Fat chance the FDA is going to help us answer this question - remember Bush/the Supreme Court agreed that preemption is allowed in regards to lawsuits and the FDA is the final say in what it safe.  We won't get the info that would have been found in the lawsuits to show us what Pharma knew and possibly hid from us.  Just like Vioxx all over again.
 
Pip
oh we know what TNF means .....
 
It is just weighing the advantages with it.. against those without it...
 
severe RA would mean no life, no movement, no painless moments...   I can't deal with that at all...
getting back to the originating discussion:
 
Myth #7 In Mrs. Pincushion's Myth Post:
 
On the bright side: the risk of colorectal cancer is actually reduced by up to 40% in people with rheumatoid arthritis. One theory argues that the frequent use of anti-inflammatory medicines called NSAIDs (including aspirin, motrin, and ibuprofen) by rheumatoid arthritis patients helps to prevent cancer in the colon.
[QUOTE=Pip!]What I don't understand is...TNF's block a molecule that is used to marshall the body's defense against cancer.  What does everybody think tumor necrosis means anyway?  It literally translates to 'tumor death'.  [QUOTE=Gimpy-a-gogo]But that is still TNF's job, right?[/QUOTE]

It is one function - a minor function - within its job description.
thanks, Jas....  I appreciate your input of information..  We need to have all the info to make the right decisions..A little wiki lesson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_necrosis_factors
But isn't the fact that it has other jobs irrelevant to this discussion, when one of it's jobs is to fight cancer cells, and this discussion is whether suppressing TNF's might promote cancer?

[QUOTE=Gimpy-a-gogo]But isn't the fact that it has other jobs irrelevant to this discussion, when one of it's jobs is to fight cancer cells, and this discussion is whether suppressing TNF's might promote cancer?

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How can it be irrelevant?  Don't you have to look at the whole to understand the parts?  Don't we need to learn all sides to make the right choice for us?
waddie, how is it relevant, then, to this discussion?IDK Gimpy.  I just feel, for me, it is important to understand the whole of an issue.  All sides.  Not everyone will agree and that is okay.  For me, its relevant.  For you, not so much and that is okay.  Okay? Not really. If it's relevant, you should be able to articulate why.

It's certainly relevant when making a decision whether to use a TNF inhibitor drug for arthritis. Yes, then it is relevant what other things TNF does.

But if the question is whether TNF inhibitors promote cancer risk, and one of the jobs TNF does is suppress cancer cells, then in my opinion, in that context, what else the TNF does is not relevant.

Maybe Jasmine could explain why the fact that the TNF does other things is relevant to the question of whether TNF inhibitors promote the likelihood of getting cancer, since she's the one who pointed out that killing cancer cells is only one of the jobs of TNF does.






edited for clarityGimpy-a-gogo2009-02-05 13:38:04Another thing to consider in this discussion: there is evidence that tnf is over-expressed in RA and excessive amounts of tnf have been linked to numerous problems including links to certain kinds of cancer and septic shock.  TNF inhibitors do not eliminate tnf; they reduce the level of tnf.  So it's not at all clear that taking a tnf inhibitor to reduce an elevated level of tnf results in a deficiency of tnf.  Unfortunately it's impossible to tell whithout expensive tests.  If only there were an inexpensive tnf test avaialble it might be possible to regulate the dose of tnf inhibitor rather than a "one size dose fits all" approach and thus increase its effictiveness while minimizing the risk.
 
Alan
Very well said Alan..Ive often thought with the TNF inhib. that whats right for one isnt always right for another , its just an amount that they came with for certain people in the trials....Gimpy, I thought I did articulate in my first and second post.  Understand the whole and not just looking at the parts.  Don't you have to look at the whole to understand the parts?  Don't we need to learn all sides to make the right choice for us?  I worry about what my drugs do to my body so I am trying to get the whole picture.  I do not know how else to articulate that your satisfaction.  I don't want an argument with you.

Good point Alan.  I think gearing medication doses to the individual and not to the populace might be the way of the future.
[QUOTE=waddie]Gimpy, I thought I did articulate in my first and second post.  Understand the whole and not just looking at the parts.  Don't you have to look at the whole to understand the parts?  Don't we need to learn all sides to make the right choice for us?  I worry about what my drugs do to my body so I am trying to get the whole picture.  I do not know how else to articulate that your satisfaction.  I don't want an argument with you.

Good point Alan.  I think gearing medication doses to the individual and not to the populace might be the way of the future.
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I certainly understood your points, waddie...  you articulated the desire to learn all the aspects of a med...   makes sense to all of us since that is how we feel too..  so we can be better informed.. and make better choices for ourselves....
 
Thanks Alan!!!
waddie, sure, if we're discussing choice.

But we're discussing whether TNF inhibitors increase the risk of cancer, and why the fact that TNF does things in addition to killing cancer cells has any relevance to that.

Let me ask the question in a different way then: does the fact that TNF does other things in addition to killing cancer cells make the fact that it's job to kill cancer cells less relevant to the question of whether inhibiting TNF promotes the risk of cancer?

[QUOTE=Alan]Another thing to consider in this discussion: there is evidence that tnf is over-expressed in RA and excessive amounts of tnf have been linked to numerous problems including links to certain kinds of cancer and septic shock.  TNF inhibitors do not eliminate tnf; they reduce the level of tnf.  So it's not at all clear that taking a tnf inhibitor to reduce an elevated level of tnf results in a deficiency of tnf.  Unfortunately it's impossible to tell whithout expensive tests.  If only there were an inexpensive tnf test avaialble it might be possible to regulate the dose of tnf inhibitor rather than a "one size dose fits all" approach and thus increase its effictiveness while minimizing the risk.
 
Alan
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Fabulous answer Alan! It makes a lot of sense.  Thank you very much I apologize if that is the way I have presented myself, Gimpy.  It certainly was not my intention.  And I did feel some aggression coming from your post, which I don't believe was your intention. I didn't think you were rude at all. I just thought the conversation was getting garbled because we were talking about whether the use TNF inhibitors increase the risk of cancer and that seemed to somehow morph into whether or not people should choose to use TNF inhibitors. I think that is a personal choice. If I had to, I would use a TNF inhibitor. But that doesn't mean it doesn't increase the risk of cancer (or not).

So I don't mean to be rude, either. I just find it incredibly frustrating that every conversation about RA drugs seems to get derailed like that.

So, sorry you felt aggression from my post, waddie.That is okay, Gimpy.  I am not sure I understand how you fee every conversation about RA drugs gets derailed.  Could you clarify, please? I am looking back at the post and I don't really see that it came down to a discussion of whether or not to use a TNF drug.  Jas just made a comment about the drug description.

It seems to me most threads morph into some other discussion, some relevant to the original post, some not.  Like this one.  Interesting, huh? Well, it just seems like no matter what is said about biologics and TNF inhibitors, the response is as if the poster had said people should not choose to use them.

For example, in this conversation, that was not said at all. Pip pointed out that TNF stands for tumor necrosis factor, in other words, tumor death factor, so how can using a TNF inhibitor not increase the risk of cancer. Some people addressed that directly, (thanks Alan, et al), but others seemed to think that was somehow a challenge to their decision to use them.

And that happens on almost every thread about this stuff. Why is simply discussing the possibility, (nay the probability), that the use of a TNF inhibitor might increase the risk of getting cancer taken as a personal attack on people's medical choices? I know, but the discussion really isn't about choices, is it? Like, cancer risk doesn't care what your reasons for using a TNF inhibitor are, it just exists.


Gimp, almost all of your posts are argumentative.  I read everyone's posts in here and you're the only one that beats a dead horse over one subject.  Then in the same thread you start bringing up stuff completely unrelated.  Can you explain why YOU do all this?.Gimpy-a-gogo2009-02-05 17:58:28lol, just one more to document GIMP. [QUOTE=Gimpy-a-gogo]Well, it just seems like no matter what is said about biologics and TNF inhibitors, the response is as if the poster had said people should not choose to use them.

For example, in this conversation, that was not said at all. Pip pointed out that TNF stands for tumor necrosis factor, in other words, tumor death factor, so how can using a TNF inhibitor not increase the risk of cancer. Some people addressed that directly, (thanks Alan, et al), but others seemed to think that was somehow a challenge to their decision to use them.

And that happens on almost every thread about this stuff. Why is simply discussing the possibility, (nay the probability), that the use of a TNF inhibitor might increase the risk of getting cancer taken as a personal attack on people's medical choices? [/QUOTE]

How was my post a personal attack?  I never said to take TNF inhibitors or to not take TNF inhibitors.  I just wanted to urge caution in putting too much importance on the name given to something.  In particular, my initial post was in response to the following:

"What does everybody think tumor necrosis means anyway?  It literally translates to 'tumor death'.  So, if you block this 'factor', of course your incidence for cancer in the general population would go up."

In fact, nothing is ever that simple.
U still didn't answer the qustion.Jasmine, I wasn't referring to you.

U won't think it's so funny when you have to leave canadaland and come here for a court appearance(s).  Oh, and it's just one lawyer, would you like his name and phone number so you can further incriminate yourself?Gimpy, l think we both read too much into the posts.  Peace, sister?


Peace, waddie.Can I get a piece of that peace? You betcha!  Peace, Jas! Sure thing, JR. It's a peace party!WOOHOO!

Awww...............Peace, Love , Joy and happiness........and a glass of spirits for all..

Count me in on the peace thing..
I could go for a big "peace" of chocolate cake right about now...  send me a peace of the spice cake with butter icingChocolate!...I would like the piece of Chocolate!
or two or three...heck if it's a party, lets get out the whole BOX
PARTY?  did someone say party?  and chocolate in the same sentence? Huh?  Lholy crap how quickly this place falls apart on my drive home and dinner time..... 
 
I am tremendously glad that people come on these threads and POST the research and information they have.. Sure, put your opinions out there, but that doesn't carry as much weight as experience and research.............   I'm thrilled that some came on and discussed the TNF .. though I'd read about it before using the med...  Yeah, pretty much paved my office w/ information before the RD even came up w/ the idea because I had read it was the next logical step in treatment of my severe RA....  but I liked the explanations given today... much easier to explain to my family who read NONE Of this stuff and just worry about me being around for years to come. 

Babs, you can always carve out the info from everything else that's written on a thread.  Sometimes it takes time to hunt through the thread and find the gems.  Am glad  that you find them also. 

I always have chocolate after I shoot myself up with Humira.  Lindy

I too treat myself w/ chocolate after taking enbrel shot......  it's my treat ;)
 
sure, I can carve out the information .... in 8 pages of postings and such, there were a few good points..  I saved them

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