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My point - some people feel a LOT more comfortable looking only at research that confirms their decision and DON'T WANT to be swayed by logic.

 

Pip

PS - Anna/Birdgirrl - since you have AS, don't you think you might be more comfortable posting on an AS board?  If Suzanne, a mother of a 5 year old little girl battling this disease, doesn't belong here - neither do you.

If it's a post that differs from your opinion then it's not logical.  The post that the person agrees with isn't logical in your opinion.   I believe that's what you just posted.  Not sure that I understand why one post is logical and the other isn't or maybe I'm not reading your post correctly.   

 

I don't care about AF and their posts but I do care about the posts on this forum. 

 

As I stated in another thread there's plenty of room on this forum for all posts and forum members.  We should leave our personal opinions about a person and agendas off the forum. 

 

Bickering about who posts what and why, doesn't add anything to the thread other than more hard feelings.  It doesn't add anything positive.  I could care less about who's doing what in the arthritis forums or what they've posted on the other forums.  I only care about how people are treated on this forum. 

 

Lately, it's been bickering about the most inane subjects.  Who belongs here and who doesn't, why they're here, posts that don't agree with your opinion, personality confilicts, who has to  have the last word, and who's right and who's wrong.  I don't understand.  We're all here because we have a disease that turns our world upside down and inside out, we shouldn't do that to one another. 

I have to go to bed, can't keep up with all of you, too many of you....I'm exhausted.   Nighty night.   Lindy 

 

 

You're attempting to use logic, which as you can see from my post, most people could care less about.

 

Let's use a non-RA topic as an example.  Somebody is a bigot.  They are convinced that their way is the correct way and it doesn't matter if you want to enlighten them or show them the 'error of their ways'.  They will never see it because their mind is made up and this is how they think.  It's their core value.  You've dealt with people like that in your past...you know what I mean.  Unless something happens that tremendously effects their core value on some sort of basic/fundemental way...they are NEVER going to agree that they are a bigot.

 

Same thing with RA.  If you are 'convinced' that your way is the correct way...you will NEVER see the research that's placed right in front of you.  You can't because it would be too much of 'fear factor' that 'if you're wrong' etc.

 

How else does one explain some of the things we see here?  For example - not one of the Steroid D researchers that NikkiLynn posts is 'clean'.  There have been post after post of 'conflict of interest' and financial ties these guys have and articles about the money they stand to make the D levels are raised.  Articles about their ties to the Vitamin D Lobby or the Indoor Tanning Lobby.  If this was any other business, most people would be screaming conflict of interest and demanding their resignation (as in that one guy at BU losing his dermatology chair for his paid for by the tanning lobby research).  But because a few people are afraid of looking too closely at what this means to their health if the anti-D people are right, they praise this crappy-paid-for research as being somehow better than it is. 

 

Get this - most of the (accused) anti-D people have posted continuously that they are not anti-Steroid D and are on the fence.  But the pro-Steroid D people do not seem to be able to wrap their heads around the idea that bought and paid for research might NOT be in their best interests. 

 

As for the 'who belongs here and who doesn't' - I just find Anna tiring for constantly hitting at Suzanne for voicing her (reasonable) opinions - and who's husband is on D per his doctors' orders.  It just shows the kind of person Anna is - a non-RA peep hitting at the mom of an RA Kid.  THAT's just priceless.

 

Pip