I hope it all goes away................ soon!!
[QUOTE=watchingwolf]Allergies You Say! The pressure I'm feeling is like nothing I've ever felt before (at least that I can remember)! Sneezing doesn't relieve the pressure and breathing through my mouth makes my throat dry and then the coughing jags begin. CAN'T TOUCH MY FACE BECAUSE IT'S TENDER TO THE TOUCH! Also, don't dare bend over for anything to quickly or I become light-headed. I want to do my shot tonight......
[QUOTE=SnowOwl]Jas, how's your family? How're you holding up?[/QUOTE]
Day by day. I'm home today with a bit of a cold. Hopefully it will be cleared by tomorrow so I can go back over to dad's.
Wow. This thread changed courses!! To all of you who are suffering with allergies, sinus infections, I feel for ya. I don't have seasonal allergies, but I spent many o' night listening to my little sister's snotty nose breathing when we shared a bedroom. I used to pelt her with stuffed animals in desparate attempt to wake her up long enough to blow her nose. I wonder if it's karma that my husband is now such a crazy loud snorer.
Anyway, I hope it'll go away soon.
Jas~ this stuff all happened with your fam right before I left for NC and I'm afraid I don't know the out come. I hope your da and your husbands gramma (?) are recovering well. When you get the chance, please give me an update, k?
[QUOTE=Linncn]Wow. This thread changed courses!! To all of you who are suffering with allergies, sinus infections, I feel for ya. I don't have seasonal allergies, but I spent many o' night listening to my little sister's snotty nose breathing when we shared a bedroom. I used to pelt her with stuffed animals in desparate attempt to wake her up long enough to blow her nose. I wonder if it's karma that my husband is now such a crazy loud snorer.
to you Lynn, Babs and Snow. I would willingly send you some of the sunshine from here were I in possession of a tiny bit of fairy magic and I will take some of that rain, please! [/QUOTE]
We must be in the same general region Waddie as our temp here today is 85 d plus. I am a woose when it comes to hot weather and the pills I take make everything ten times worse. I will gladly package up this heat and send it to you all.
The pollen does not bother me too much but poor dh is suffering terribly.
So sorry about your family problems Jasmine. Hope things get better soon.
TeedOff2009-05-28 15:13:06This board is not dead, bad, evil, or mean spirited.
I may not have been participating much in the last year, but that does not negate the support, friendship, and empathy I found here.
[QUOTE=TeedOff][QUOTE=waddie]
If they haven't gotten you yet and tried to publicly humiliate you or attack you or bash the sh*t out of you, your opinions or the meds you take...BE WARNED, it will happen, it's only a matter of time.
This board would improve by 200% if they left and NEVER returned. When they aren't posting, the board is quiet, if you can't see that then YOU ARE BLIND!!!
Well it needs to be said that I wont be going anywhere Lisa0nline....so your continuing to post as you do, does nothing but upset everyone else on this forum. Not to mention any poor newbie venturing in.
If in fact you ARE a regular poster here then is it not time to take a step back and look at the disharmony you are causing amongst those you are not targeting?? If you truly care about these forums then you would desist. If you wish to carry on accusing me of whatever pops into your head, please feel free to do so, but keep it to PM's.
I will not be addressing you again on the forums.
Lyn
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Well it needs to be said that I wont be going anywhere Lisa0nline....so your continuing to post as you do, does nothing but upset everyone else on this forum. Not to mention any poor newbie venturing in.
If in fact you ARE a regular poster here then is it not time to take a step back and look at the disharmony you are causing amongst those you are not targeting?? If you truly care about these forums then you would desist. If you wish to carry on accusing me of whatever pops into your head, please feel free to do so, but keep it to PM's.
I will not be addressing you again on the forums.
Lyn
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Oh thank you GOD!!! She isn't going to "address me" anymore.
I don't need you Lyndee or anyone else to tell me "desist". I'll post about you and the others and your bullsh*t whenever I feel like it...and keep it up babe because I'm not even through with you yet.
Jas, I'm thinking of you and your family. The last thing any of you needed was a 24 virus, hope all of you recover soon. Take care of yourself. Lindy
[QUOTE=LinB]Jas, I'm thinking of you and your family. The last thing any of you needed was a 24 virus, hope all of you recover soon. Take care of yourself. Lindy[/QUOTE]
Actually I think the virus was *just* what the dr ordered! I slept quite a bit and lounged around all day yesterday, never even changing out of my PJs. Feel much better this morning - still have lingering congestion and a bit of a sore throat (from the post-nasal drip) but otherwise feel pretty decent.
Jas, I actually was going to write that but I didn't want you to think I was nuts for wishing a 24 hr. bug on you!!!!!! L"Good Morning"? Slept most of the night in my cozy recliner because my face didn't like lying on the pillow. I'm not a back sleeper but did try it only to have the post nasal drip thing become an issue.
Although I don't have a headache the pressure behind my ears has my head feeling like Charlie Brown's Giant Pumpkin! Still can't blow my nose though.
Yes, I finally have relented and made an appt. for early this afternoon with my gp.
Jas: You and your family are in my prayers. *Gentle Hugs*
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[QUOTE=LinB]Jas, I'm thinking of you and your family. The last thing any of you needed was a 24 virus, hope all of you recover soon. Take care of yourself. Lindy[/QUOTE]
Actually I think the virus was *just* what the dr ordered! I slept quite a bit and lounged around all day yesterday, never even changing out of my PJs. Feel much better this morning - still have lingering congestion and a bit of a sore throat (from the post-nasal drip) but otherwise feel pretty decent.
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I should know better... be careful what you wish for!! My nose won't stop running! I thought this would be gone by now. At least it's the thin clear snot and not the goopy sinus infection snot.Please tell me you're drinking no caffeine Coke.......please, you'll be up till sometime tomorrow night, woman. I haven't tried to buy Sudafed but I can imagine the hoop jumping. Stan picks up my pain meds sometimes and they've never asked if he was "Lindy". I'm sure I'll see you on the forum tonight. L
[QUOTE=LinB]Please tell me you're drinking no caffeine Coke.......please, you'll be up till sometime tomorrow night, woman. I haven't tried to buy Sudafed but I can imagine the hoop jumping. Stan picks up my pain meds sometimes and they've never asked if he was "Lindy". I'm sure I'll see you on the forum tonight. L[/QUOTE]
I drank the Coke earlier in the day - no worries!Oh and I'm probably going to have to go to Wisconsin again this weekend - bro is back in the hospital, behaving badly. Word on the street is that my mother might be going up there to stir up some trouble too, so someone has to referee!
You need to switch to Sam's you're going to need it....!
[QUOTE=LinB]You need to switch to Sam's you're going to need it....![/QUOTE]
I've been on this board for about a year. It was pretty positive when I got here. Seems to have changed quite a bit. We'll see how it goes.
[QUOTE=Spelunker] [QUOTE=Sandra]I have been reading the board for quite a long time now, posted just a few times , [/QUOTE]
Sandra, just for the record, is the Sandra mentioned in the following quote you?
[QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]
There was a member on here and I will tell you her name, Sandra, she has been in contact and she used to work for the USA government, her husband has RA but she left as she found the board to be slightly unreal. She pm's now and then and knows some people in high places who she is going to ask what the law is with all of this, maybe she can do something maybe she cant but there are some very sadistical folk on here, who really never post about their RA or help others, they only pop up when trouble is brewing.[/QUOTE]
Does it matter?
http://arthritisinsight.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22265&PID=248933#248933[/QUOTE]
This board is pretty much the same as when I joined. Some people are nice, some are nasty, mean and just want to cause trouble. Some people are interested in debate/discussion, others are just interested in advancing an agenda........ Lynn492009-05-30 10:07:11
[QUOTE=Lynn49]
This board is pretty much the same as when I joined. Some people are nice, some are nasty, mean and just want to cause trouble. Some people are interested in debate/discussion, others are just interested in advancing an agenda........ [/QUOTE]
That's pretty much been my observation too.
[QUOTE=JasmineRain]
[QUOTE=Lynn49]
This board is pretty much the same as when I joined. Some people are nice, some are nasty, mean and just want to cause trouble. Some people are interested in debate/discussion, others are just interested in advancing an agenda........ [/QUOTE]
That's pretty much been my observation too.
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Having read many, if not most, of the topics from 2005, I concur. In fact, with few exceptions the past couple of months have been quite temperate.
I actually joined in 2006 and when out of the country I had to re-register in 2007 and I lurked for a year or so prior to 2006. So I've been around awhile.
This forum has always had it's calm times and warlike times. It's always been good/bad, depending on the day. If you want to remain an active, supportive member that offers chronic illness information and guidance, then you have to wade through the posts. Ignore many posts and post your help and support without stepping on too many toes. If you're not willing to participate, then you probably don't have any serious input to offer. Lindy
LinB-
How about people who violate other people's boundries. Pip started her thread for AP people to share and then suddenly many non-AP people were there all the time. My understanding is that a thread is started by someone with a topic and they ask people to share on that topic and respect the topic they have posted.
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda]LinB-
How about people who violate other people's boundries. Pip started her thread for AP people to share and then suddenly many non-AP people were there all the time. My understanding is that a thread is started by someone with a topic and they ask people to share on that topic and respect the topic they have posted.
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I was unaware that there were those kind of "boundaries" on a public message board. That seems a little odd to me.
So according to that kind of logic, I guess that people who have never used traditional DMARDS or biologics shouldn't be allowed to comment on them............
This used to be the best forum around in my opinion. We have lost so many great people. It only takes a few to ruin a board. I wish there was a way to vote and get rid of some of the "inside ugly people" because there is a lot of heart on this board and the forum has a great format. I take my responsibility. It was my first forum and I used it like a journal. I learned to stick to topics and not get too personal.Lynn-
It really just seems like common courtesy to me. Even on a public board people can exercise common courtesy.
[QUOTE=roxy]This used to be the best forum around in my opinion. We have lost so many great people. It only takes a few to ruin a board. I wish there was a way to vote and get rid of some of the "inside ugly people" because there is a lot of heart on this board and the forum has a great format. I take my responsibility. It was my first forum and I used it like a journal. I learned to stick to topics and not get too personal.[/QUOTE]
Yes, roxy, I agree.
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda][QUOTE=roxy]This used to be the best forum around in my opinion. We have lost so many great people. It only takes a few to ruin a board. I wish there was a way to vote and get rid of some of the "inside ugly people" because there is a lot of heart on this board and the forum has a great format. I take my responsibility. It was my first forum and I used it like a journal. I learned to stick to topics and not get too personal.[/QUOTE]
Jas-
Have you ever heard of self-discipline????????????????
Jan, if your rules had been in place, I would never have known about AP because I was a "non ap". I read all topics, whether they seem to apply to me or not. I thought if I had some questions or something valid of interest to say or add, it was alright to do so even if a topic did not apply directly to me.
Where are these rules??? I thought only the rules of common curtesy and decency applied to a non moderated board.
Please quit making this about AP/nonAP/everyone else. That is simply not the case and I believe you are intelligent enough to know that.
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda]Lynn-
It really just seems like common courtesy to me. Even on a public board people can exercise common courtesy.
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Really Jan, perhaps you should be addressing your comments to the posters who have been telling people to F off and that accuse other posters of not really being in remission. That, in my opinion, has a lot more to do with common courtesy...........
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda]Jas-
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Reading and asking a question that is related to the topic is no problem, It is long discussions totally unrelated to the topic I am talking about.
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda]It means adults have self-discipline, they restrain themselves from things that are offensive to other people. Very simple really.[/QUOTE]
I think you need to be expressing that thought to all the posters here because it certainly isn't an AP verses and non AP issue!
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda][QUOTE=waddie]Jan, if your rules had been in place, I would never have known about AP because I was a "non ap". I read all topics, whether they seem to apply to me or not. I thought if I had some questions or something valid of interest to say or add, it was alright to do so even if a topic did not apply directly to me.
Where are these rules??? I thought only the rules of common curtesy and decency applied to a non moderated board.
Please quit making this about AP/nonAP/everyone else. That is simply not the case and I believe you are intelligent enough to know that.
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"I actually joined in 2006 and when out of the country I had to re-register in 2007 and I lurked for a year or so prior to 2006. So I've been around awhile.
This forum has always had it's calm times and warlike times. It's always been good/bad, depending on the day. If you want to remain an active, supportive member that offers chronic illness information and guidance, then you have to wade through the posts. Ignore many posts and post your help and support without stepping on too many toes. If you're not willing to participate, then you probably don't have any serious input to offer. Lindy "
How about people who violate other people's boundries. Pip started her thread for AP people to share and then suddenly many non-AP people were there all the time. My understanding is that a thread is started by someone with a topic and they ask people to share on that topic and respect the topic they have posted.
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Jan, I wasn't writing about "People's Boundaries". My above post is concerning forum members who post without offering help, support or information and posting it in a respectful way.
And speaking of respect, you can respect the poster if not the subject matter, or how it's presented. Some people are so inaccurate and rude when posting that they don't earn respect because they haven't respected the other forum members.
When you see wild, inaccurate, finger-pointing and rude postings, then the so-called boundaries have been expanded by the poster. They're leaving themselves open to questions, postings that show the other side of the topic, other people's opinions - do you not understand that this is not a moderated forum and their are no closed postings? Most of us accept that as part of a non-moderated forum. Some don't.
There are people from all walks of life posting and some of them are quite intelligent, some are rude, some are just downright wrong and dangerous, some are laid-back, some are compassionate, some aren't. The one consistency on the forum should be the posting of an accurate statement. One has to be prepared to defend their statments and answer questions in an intelligent manner, but do it in a way that you don't insult the questioner. This is called debate, not rudeness. Debate has a whole set of rules and criteria that makes it work, even on a forum. You can't have debate if you don't have members that are willing and able to debate in a civilized manner.
I think for the most part the forum posters are a respectful lot. You can't tell people that they're using the wrong meds and accuse them of using AP incorrectly and that their doctors are hoodlums. Then the respect is lost, the claws come out, people start questioning the validity of the poster and their postings. The same thing happens when a poster that posts in the middle of a debate and calls the debaters names and makes wild statements. They lose repect.
It wasn't the message, it was the messengers. When you have an agenda it won't be accepted if you insult the group you're trying to sell it to. So, don't talk to me about boundaries, talk to me about accuracy, respect for all the members of the forum, and how all of us - including you, can make this a better forum, a more accurate forum, and a more respectful forum. Lindy
and Lynn and Snow.. you put the "S" in support....
this is an argument that will never end... because as you say, people have different interpretations of what is offensive and what isn't........
Jan... I fear your world is too tightly managed to allow for an diversifications... I hope not.
This is one of the best posts I have seen SnowOwl. Very well put. I am in total agreement.
I've also noticed that often when there's a thread that has turned ugly several people will all of the sudden start talking about something random like cheese cake or candy and I feel like that is often just to get everyones minds off of the crap that's taken over a thread and get them to refocus on something silly (unless of course if you are actually Joonie and your mind is totally consumed by candy corn at that particular moment; Love ya Joonie!) and meaningless. I personally see the humor in this and frankly appreciate it.
As far as rules go; there are no rules here. That's the beauty of AI....it does not however mean everyone should act any differently than they would in real life. If people would use the same social behaviors that they do in general public we wouldn't have some of these problems. The people who have recently been stirring up the crap around here would no doubt be totally embarrashed for someone in their real life social circles to see them act that way. Hell; I'm embarrashed for them. It just makes them look stupid and I think by the way the majoirty of us have recently been ignoring it instead of highlighting it just proves that fact.
Hasn't the majority of the crap settled down anyway? This is pretty calm for those who haven't seen it at it's worst. Enjoy it if that's the way you like it. It won't last forever. lol
[QUOTE=Jan Lucinda] She is a good example, I think, of someone who is considerate of other people, who refrains from posting anything that is hurtful. We could all learn from her example.[/QUOTE]I'm with you Babs - message boards are a form of communication and they'll tend to branch off onto other topics. Sometimes more, sometimes less - all depends on the audience. Or, if you're my MIL, it will branch off no matter what. She makes your head spin sometimes.
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I have no issue w/ doing it or not.... most certainly does not make one a troll.
Snow and buck-
It was very helpful to me when I first came here to know someone's diagnosis and meds when I read their shares so I knew where they were coming from. I see that some people choose to include it and some don't. If you choose not to, that is of course your choice and I respect it. When I was new, I know nothing about RA, it was all totally new, so I can just say that signature lines did help me.
I like it because when someone is talking about issues they are having you can look at their signature line and know what meds they are on with out asking. Doesn't really matter to me one way or the other; but I have found it to be helpful when people are asking for opinions on the way they are feeling. More times than not I don't even pay any attention to people's signature lines. I understand your point Jan but failure to put a sig line does not make one a troll. And I generally assume that when someone is posting on a RA forum either they or a loved one has the disease or potentially has the disease...but that is just me.
[QUOTE=buckeye]I understand your point Jan but failure to put a sig line does not make one a troll. And I generally assume that when someone is posting on a RA forum either they or a loved one has the disease or potentially has the disease...but that is just me. [/QUOTE]