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Just wondering if there are any women here who have been through pmr.  How long did it last? What did u use to combat the pain and inflammation? How are your bone density tests since?I am for the most part over pmr. My inflammation markers are normal. I still have some discomfort at times but it does not keep me from doing anything I want. I have some upper back discomfort and sometimes I feel a bit stiff but i ride my bike, swim, go on vacations, walk, etc. You can go back and read all my posts for the gory details. In a nutshell - I got off the pred after a few months and just toughed it out. Went for natural things to make my body stronger to fight this thing. I figured that was the way to go since the drugs only mask the pain not cure you. I ditched the pred because i was in my early 50s, in good health otherwise, and wanted to get over this as relatively unscathed as possible. If I was in my 70s or 80s I would take the pred for sure.  My bone density was not that great before the pmr hit. I am hoping for a better result this year since i am walking and exercising again. I have not taken any meds (I was getting by on nsaids) since last May of 2008. I have taken a couple of advil when my back was bothering me. That is about it for the meds. But I do take supplements and will be taken some probably forever like the fish oils and such.  My two year mark will be this October and I am hoping I will have zero remnants of this thing by then.Oh - to read my old posts - just click on my user name and you can see the option for reading my posts..then when you choose the time period you want to access - pick "any" - that will get you to the very begining of the whole shebang. I just logged in to see how the forum was going.   I got PMR in August of 2006 and finally went to a rheumatologist in Dec. 2006 and could only take prednisone or Methotrexate for six months.  By then I didn't have too much pain.  When I quit taking it, about half the pain came back and I used NSAIDs.

 
I would say that I have never been pain free since I was diagnosed with it.   I have pain in my hips.  After about 18 months, the pain in my shoulders went away though and I didn't sweat as much.
 
The sed rate went down to about 13 last January of 2009, so I suppose it is gone, but left with the hip pain and I had xrays and and MRI, and the only thing that showed up was slight to moderate arthritis.
 
At the beginning of this year....my left hip joint hurt so bad I could hardly walk.   Since the medical doctor found nothing, I have been going to a chiropractor which has helped quite a bit.
 
I would suppose that the time I had the PMR, I didn't move those muscles much and they more or less froze up.  I at least now can walk.  I would say though....this probably part of PMR.   I have read where PMR leaves you with something and so probably arthritis of my hip has probably set in.   Massage helps quit a bit and last time a big muscle bump was found and that rubbed out and now I can lift my leg better.
 
Maybe just have to keep on exercising and bringing those muscles back.   I sure hope so.   Maybe I still do have a bit of PMR.  It will be 3 years this August since I was diagnosed.
 
I hope you are feeling better today....just hang in there.  With is disease, it does seem to go away after awhile.   I was pretty good after 18 months.   Mary
I was diagnosed in September of 2007 and by October of 2008 my numbers were normal and was told I was in remission.  I have blood work about every 6 months, bone scans, etc. and everything is always normal.  I never went higher than 5mg a day of pred....sometimes I just toughed it out and when I felt I could I would reduce the pred until I felt I could do without.  I'm active and pretty much back to normal.  I did notice that my muscles in my upper arms atrophied somewhat, but am pushing weights around the gym again and feeling stronger.  I have a trip planned in September for Maui and a cruise in March of 2010.  I'm not on any meds, but continue to take my vitamins and fish oil.  There are times, especially in the morning that I'm a little stiff, but it passes quickly.  I, like Smartee believe that the less medication we take the better off we are.
 
My best to all of you that are still fighting the battle. 
I am very curious as to what side effects are with 5mg of prednisone.  Does the puffiness appear that I hear about?  And...is the puffiness and weight gain due to the drug itself, or people eating more due to munchies?? 
Susan, you also mentioned remission....I thought that pmr eventually just left our bodies.  Does everyone pretty much go into remission? Sorry I have so many questions...this is a bit overwhelming right now.
From what I've read and understand PMR to be, yes, it can come back.  I wonder if we ever completely recover.  I have found that I injure myself more easily since having this disease.  Prehaps this is do to the time that we were unable to use our muscles and like I said in my previous message, "my upper body atrophied".  I started a weight routine using light weights and I injured my scapula.  I began an exercise program last year and sprained my knee with a possible tear (had an MRI).....still haven't recovered fully and need a brace when I walk my dog. 
 
Pred.....I began with a reduced dosage over, I believe a 14 day period from 10mg to 5mg and stayed at 5mg reducing when I felt I could.  It took me about a year to complete.  I never had swelling or weight gain.....just that constant miserable pain.  My hips still get stiff and sore while sitting at my computer, sitting in the theatre, in the car and during the night while I sleep, but the difference is now I get up and the discomfort lasts about 30 seconds.  Maybe the weight gain is do to the fact that those with PMR are eating more than they are moving plus food can and is very comforting.  I suspose the remission is based on the numbers that come back after you've had blood work, rather than how the body feels.
 
I suffered many times with this disease, but instead of increasing the Pred I would just suck it up, take a low dose anti-inflammatory drug and wait the 7 to 10 days for the pain to pass.  It usually did and I always looked forward to the next small reduction of the Pred.  I have yet to met anyone with this disease except for those of you on this forum. 
Hi, there pretty lady and others,

My docs have also said that PMR is the best sort of rheumatism to have, and that it will go away, but your question is a very good one!

I'm new here and am pleased to find a place to share experiences and information.  I'm 'only' in my fifties and have had pains since 2004, was properly diagnosed in 2006.  I'm now down to around 8mg predni, and had to stop taking methotraxate because of liver problems (this was only a few weeks ago - hope the next blood test says I'm ok again.)

I should also be below 7,5mg to avoid side effects, but am not as brave as some of you ladies - if it hurts, I swallow the predni!  I have a full time job and  can't afford to be seen limping and groaning.  I admit it's hard to remember just how bad it hurt before I was treated, but I know I had to concentrate hard on not pulling a face or even stumbling when heaving myself out of a chair!  I also had three ways of walking, depending on who was around!  A fast limp for when I was on my own (my feet also used to hurt - does anyone have that?); a slightly slower walk with regular clop-clopping of heels if anyone was anywhere within earshot, but still apparent limp for anyone watching; and an even slower regular walk for boss-types within my line of vision to avoid being labelled a cripple!  Thank goodness that's not so bad any more!

I also had some bad headaches which were assumed to be giant cell arteriitis, though no-one has done a biopsy.  I have upped my predni dose on a couple of occasions because of headaches, because the thought of blindness, etc. is really frightening.

Any more stories of what I might expect in the future would be very interesting for me. 

Best regards,
C.
Candle

visit www:pmr-gca-northeast.org.uk   - plenty stories and info  - but keep on coming back here as none of us know it all.


I saw Dr. Oz on Oprah the other day and he gave a list of things every one should take. One of those things was two baby asprin a day. Well, I had some baby asprin so i took just one. I was amazed that the discomfort in my upper back and in my sternum area was greatly diminished. I have taken one every day the last several days. I can hardly feel any discomfort at all. Amazing. Thanks for the tip, Mrs UK - very interesting!

I brought goggles to my regular pool routine. I have not been able to swim freestyle in over a year. I just gave it a try and could not believe that I could do it...with no trouble. Recovery is slow but certainly steady. The baby aspirin i have been taking have really helped. I dont have hardly any problem with my upper back anymore. ANd i dont have to take them every day... A year ago when my knees looked like oranges and I was going to my doctor appointments in my pajamas I never thought I would ever be the same again.

Here are some things i have found to be helpful for me. Do your own research and see if they may help you. I have found that online ordering is much cheaper. I use www.Vitacost.com a lot for supplements and also www.essenceoforganics.com for new chapter products. Use code nc1 and you get a further discount on new chapter.
Also Life Extension or www.lef.org has a good clearance going on. Check out vitacost clearance also. Some good deals there also. Always though make sure you are getting a quality brand.
 
L-Theanine made by Suntheanine (any brand but it has to be made by Suntheanine - the research was done using only Suntheanine) - I have read that China puts this in a lot of products to keep the people calm. And that Tiger Woods puts it in his sports drink. I take 300 mg a day. I sleep better than i ever have. And all thru the night. Even if i have a scary dream - i never panic in my sleep - it is like nothing bothers me - floods, monsters, whatever. Love this stuff...
 
New Chapter Immunity Take Care - this is a losenge that you can chew or suck on. It is Elderberry extract (sambucus nigra). There was research that showed that viruses were unable to penetrate cells when taking this. Do some googling on this. It is also helpful to keep from catching things...might be helpful with this flu going around to build yourself up. Remember the thought going around that PMR was caused by a virus? I take one of these every day now!
 
New CHapter Rhodiola (or other brand) - this is another natural product that uplifts mood and supports optimal immune, adrenal and cardiovascular function.
 
New Chapter Holy Basil (you can check on other brands but I like NC) - Supports healthy cortisol, blood sugar, and insulin metabolism and elevates spirit. USed in ayurvedic medicine. Good mood pill!
 
New Chapter supercritcal omega 7 - among other things - supports mucous membrane health of the digestive and urogenital systems. This is Sea Buckthorn. Think about supporting your stomach lining from so many nsaids....also good for your skin and GI track
 
And don't forget the Pycnogenol - I take 150 mg now a day. German research found that 200 mg lowered inflammation in patients.
 
Give all things like this a good chance to work. I take them hoping to prevent a relaspe. Trying to keep my body healthy and strong so it can fight for itself.  If nothing else try the L-Theanine. It is one of my favorites. You can go to www.Newchapter.com for some good info on most of these products or just google around.

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