JOONIE, where are you? | Arthritis Information

I've been worried about you girl. How are you doing?I've been thinking about you also Joonie...check in and let us know how you're doing.Joonie, missing you too! count me in as one who's been wondering how you're doing. Hope all is well with you, Joonie!Me too, Joonie, whassup????? Hugs Janie - its too quiet around here!!! Please, let sleeping dogs lie. It has been quiet and drama free around here for awhile now. It is so nice.

IIRC, her family was having some financial difficulties, and the internet connection was on the chopping block. [QUOTE=JasmineRain]IIRC, her family was having some financial difficulties, and the internet connection was on the chopping block. [/QUOTE]

Wrong.

[QUOTE=TeedOff][QUOTE=JasmineRain]IIRC, her family was having some financial difficulties, and the internet connection was on the chopping block. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=JasmineRain]IIRC, her family was having some financial difficulties, and the internet connection was on the chopping block. [/QUOTE]

I believe that was a while back...but then that situation was resolved.

I see nothing has changed since I was here last. Same old sh*t. [/QUOTE]

Glad we didn't disappoint you. [QUOTE=Teenee]Come on friends. Please stop the fingerpointing! We are all just a one fine thread in the tapestry of life -- we came here into this world the same way -- and we're going to go out the same way. If someone is having serious struggles, no matter what your judgment or gripe may be, reach out with a helping hand -- don't slap the hand. We need a whole lot more love and understanding in this world.[/QUOTE]

I can tell you're a newbie. Stick around, you'll soon find out what we're talking about. [QUOTE=Phatgirl2]

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Phats, with all due disrespect, you and many others on here didn't help Joonie. You can most likely take personal responsibility for her leaving, possibly being depressed. You did not help her, only hurt her. I'm sure your parents would be proud of the way you and others treated Joonie.Loser,

You are funny. Joonie is responsible for herself and her own wellbeing. Many people, myself included tried for a very long time to help her. BUT, she didn't want help. You are all assuming why she is no longer here. You don't know why she isn't here. If you are all such good friends with her and worry about her so much, call her, write her a letter.

One more thing Loser...you sure are the pot calling the kettle black. What about that little diarrhea of the mouth you had about me that was VERY inappropriate? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones...One more thing...Joonie gave as good as she got, sometimes unprovoked. Joonie was not innocent in her experiences on this board. We all create our own experiences. The difference is....some of us take responsibility for those experiences and some don't.

Let me say this:

After Joonie and her friends posted another members personal information for the sole purpose of terrorizing that member and her family, she wasn't satisfied but also offered up the members underage daughter "myspace" so that those so inclined could terrorize even the underage daughter of the member. Joonie and her group didn't like the response to thier complaints of the owners of this site and so set about getting this forum removed from the internet. Writing to WebWiz with complaints of this forum and ernestpr. Making complaints to GOOGLEADS about this forum and ernestpr and Go Daddy with complaints about this forum and ernestpr. Gosh, where are our money making google ads? Joonie attacks others and then when it bites her ass, she plays victim. She posts her personal life and when others give her well intentioned advise, she turns on them for picking on her. Joonie can be funny and she can be just as evil. She and her friends had/have every right to start a forum and run it the way they see fit and even post thier members personal information that they don't like and look at thier members private message boxes. But instead Joonie and her friends did everything they could to have this forum removed from the internet. It a surprise that one member mentions the desire for all personalities when supporting Joonie, one of the members that thinks it's okay to do and say anything including posting personal information of another member whose personality they don't like. And now you have the rest of the story.

LEV

levlarry2009-10-18 09:10:54I am so sorry I started this thread. If you weren't a fan of Joonie's you could have just skipped over this and ignored it, since it had nothing to do with you, but now it is yet another thread turned ugly. The intentions of this thread were pure, and most of those who have posted here posted with kindness and concern. I ask that all of you who feel differently just move on and stop working so hard at being negative. [QUOTE=Hillhoney]I am so sorry I started this thread. ... The intentions of this thread were pure...[/QUOTE]
I have attempted to stay away, just as you expressed, however I once created a similar topic filled with the pure intention of "helping" June. That intention came back to bite me in the derrière. Not only by the forum-at-large, but also by the one I was attempting to assist.

A wise woman suggested that such topics be kept to private messenger. That advice seems to apply here as well. Private contact may well be the only way to keep the flotsam and jetsam at a minimum.

It has been my personal experience here at AI, that unless and until any one member is ready, willing, and able to accept an actively coherent participation in their own proactive healthcare and/or forum participation any inquiry into where/how they are is essentially meaningless.

With only pure intentions, Shug

Hillhoney has been member herefor many years and has helped me a lot by her thoughtful and wise postings. She is never judgemental only fair in her own way , helping those who are finding life hard. When she posted the Joonie post, it was because she genuinely wanted to know how June was and it would never occur to her that such a post would cause nastiness.

No enquiry into any members health issues is ever a waste of time...it just means they are thought about and cared for.

Lev....give it a rest. move on

Shug, you were one of the senior instigators against Joonie. You should accept some of the responsibility. Yes, Joonie had her problems, don't we all, but to talk down to her as you did was reprehensible. [QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]

Just as I posted a couple of months ago attempting to assist June through a difficult time. However, once again it has been pointed out that I am not a long time member and that what I might have to say is therefore less than welcome. I get it, truly I do. And getting it, I will certainly attempt to keep my responses limited and not become involved in any topic wherein longtime members express their point of view.

I am chagrined and reckoned with. Mea culpa.

[QUOTE=lorster]Shug, you were one of the senior instigators against Joonie. You should accept some of the responsibility. Yes, Joonie had her problems, don't we all, but to talk down to her as you did was reprehensible. [/QUOTE]

You know Lorster, I truly do get it: I am the enemy, I am the bad guy, I am wretched and evil and truly rotten. I get it, truly I do.
Shug, are you, or any of your cronies capable of taking responsibility for your actions...and what you say to others? I have NEVER, ONCE on this forum ever encountered an apology from any of you to another member that you wronged? Are you not capable of this? I have apologized many times on here....but none of you ever have. I find a problem with that.Ok. Now come on. I may be a newbie to the forum but I am seasoned in life. And to tell you the truth, if a forum is this "dysfunctional and opinionated as well as judgmental," I may chose to not belong to it. Who has the time and engergy struggling w/chronic illnesses(s) to be casting punches and pokes at one another? Forums are for support and information. If you don't care about a particular person posting -- DON'T READ IT! It's that simple. Draw the bounday. I would expect such behavior out of young children, but we are adults, aren't we? Let's not lose sight of the purpose to help one another w/dignity, maturity and compassion. I will say this, I am embarrassed by the negativity and the nit-picking as a "NEWBIE" to see such immature behavior and time spent on such nonsense. Cut it out!

Shug, this thread was not about you. It was about Joonie, someone I wanted to check on because I had not heard from her in a long time. Please don't make it about you or anyone else. The reason I did not post it as a PM was that often people do not sign in to read the forum threads, and therefore do not see their PM's. That's all.

I miss Joonie too. I hope she is doing okay and wish her well.

SnowOwl,

I appreciate your concern for Joonie and all members here. I mean that sincerely because i believe your concern is sincere. I never have been one to get anyone thrown off this forum or leave the forum. I think that it's important for everyone to know that if Joonie, Lorster, JSNM, Joi, Pincushion, LyndeeNZ and Gimpy had gotten thier way, there would be no ArthritisInsight forum anymore. I appreciate your belief that forgiveness is a good thing. I believe that also, once the ones that did the wrong are actually remorseful. How many times has this group bragged about posting another members personal information and Joonie and LyndeeNZ both said they were glad they did it and would do it again. Had it been you and your family especially your underage daughter, I think that even you would be less forgiving. This forum has very few rules. The one rule this forum does have is that no member is to post another members personal information with out that members permission. Lorster is a loser that doesn't have rheumatoid arthritis and yet was one of the group that helped in outing personal information and trying to have this forum removed from the www. She's a loser. And now she has the audacity to talk down to Spelunker. She's a low life. She doesn't have enough class to be a pimple on Spelunkers ass. Spelunker did nothing but give good suggestions to Joonie in the hopes that Joonie would take the advise and better her life that she constantly complained about. At no time did Spelunker talk down to her or at her but always with real concern. How dare that low life sack of rotting grey matter speak disrespectfully of Spelunker. I will always believe in pardon when it is requested. As in "I beg your pardon". If a member posts that another member is a racist and made racist statements against her godchildren and it's proven that the member did not make racist statements, that member is pardoned after begging for pardon, showing her wrong and remorse. Then, it's never spoken of again. But none the less, I hope that Joonie is not just okay, but even a better person inside.

LEV

OMG Give it a rest. Joonie never liked you and you never liked her so give over. TeedOff2009-10-18 17:28:35The only thing I remember about that awful time when supposedly Joonie (because I try to stay out of worthless ugliness and would not have bothered to access the crap) posted personal information about people is that it was a time of utter deceit , ugliness and it was clogging up this good board.
The people who were at the heart of it were the biggest whack jobs I have ever encountered. I think it was found out that 2 of them were actually the same and the person was posting bad things and then posting bad things back to herself- SICK!!!! It caused a bunch of people to begin to use aliases and you didn't feel comfortable here. You couldn't trust anyone.
It was WEIRD! I certainly miss them less. Wannabe,

That was another lie that the group was trying to spread. That two members were one and the same. Remember, Pincushion had proof and one member posted two pictures that were supposed to be the same person only they didn't look anything alike. I didn't pull up the post but will if you want.

TeedOff thanks for ignoring me some more.

LEV

Nah...I'd rather let sleeping dogs lie Lev....I'm just glad this place has turned around the way it has Shug

My point wasnt about your length of time on the board but Hillhoneys length of time here and her concern for others. I was just stating that she goes way back in her help with Joonies illness etc......it was about Jooonie and her not a slur against you.

[QUOTE=Teenee]Ok. Now come on. I may be a newbie to the forum but I am seasoned in life. And to tell you the truth, if a forum is this "dysfunctional and opinionated as well as judgmental," I may chose to not belong to it. Who has the time and engergy struggling w/chronic illnesses(s) to be casting punches and pokes at one another? Forums are for support and information. If you don't care about a particular person posting -- DON'T READ IT! It's that simple. Draw the bounday. I would expect such behavior out of young children, but we are adults, aren't we? Let's not lose sight of the purpose to help one another w/dignity, maturity and compassion. I will say this, I am embarrassed by the negativity and the nit-picking as a "NEWBIE" to see such immature behavior and time spent on such nonsense. Cut it out![/QUOTE]

Teenee, Choosing not to belong to it is your best bet. THIS is mild compared to what I've seen here. These sick people (and I know you all know who I'm talking about) are only here to cause misery and dispair. They only feel good about themselves when they're bringing other people down...typical elementary school bully behavior.

Do yourself a favor...run...not walk, but run out of here.

Teenee and Mish aren't going anywhere. They are fully aware of other moderated forums. They have found a place where they can be involved in the contoversy thinking they are seperating themselves from what they consider dysfuntional by trying to pass themselfs off as peace angels. There are members here that have never once posted on one of the controversial threads. Not as antagonists, supporters, or piss angels, I mean peace angels. I would mention them by name but I don't think that's fair to them but everyone knows who these members are. They don't get involved and don't try to change the flavor or complain constantly about the flavor. Doesn't seem to bother them one way or the other. But Mish and Teenee have found their own spot in what they consider dysfunction where they want to participate and function in the dysfunction but be "above" the dysfunction. Like we haven't seen them before. Teenee, you know that there are many moderated forums, right? Why did you choose a non-moderated forum, and then complain about it and then continue to complain about it? Just out of curiosity.

LEV

[QUOTE=levlarry]Teenee and Mish aren't going anywhere. They are fully aware of other moderated forums. They have found a place where they can be involved in the contoversy thinking they are seperating themselves from what they consider dysfuntional by trying to pass themselfs off as peace angels. There are members here that have never once posted on one of the controversial threads. Not as antagonists, supporters, or piss angels, I mean peace angels. I would mention them by name but I don't think that's fair to them but everyone knows who these members are. They don't get involved and don't try to change the flavor or complain constantly about the flavor. Doesn't seem to bother them one way or the other. But Mish and Teenee have found their own spot in what they consider dysfunction where they want to participate and function in the dysfunction but be "above" the dysfunction. Like we haven't seen them before. Teenee, you know that there are many moderated forums, right? Why did you choose a non-moderated forum, and then complain about it and then continue to complain about it? Just out of curiosity.

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Amen to that Lev!

If you don't like a topic or it doesn't interest you, scroll on by. In my opinion....Some posters here enjoy this kind of nonsense, if fact they seem to thrive on it. I think it's a form of entertainment for them.

If you wish to chat and learn about RA on a moderated forum...the AF board is your best bet. Several posters from here have moved on to the AF board and discovered that they can't post personal attacks and misinformation.

THIS IS A POSTING ABOUT JOONIE.......from a very concerned friend, do you all think life is about yourselves....how rude and unforgiving you are.

Hillhoney , This isnt fair to Joonie or to you I hope that you find out where she is and how she is. xx

Nice to see some of you wanting to know how Joonie is & wishing her well, I am sure now she has a new computer she will be able to read all of this for herself !!

I agree with Mrs P - this thread was about Joonie not anything else - why on earth some of you want to turn that around into something else I just do not understand.

[QUOTE=Lynn49][QUOTE=levlarry]Teenee and Mish aren't going anywhere. They are fully aware of other moderated forums. They have found a place where they can be involved in the contoversy thinking they are seperating themselves from what they consider dysfuntional by trying to pass themselfs off as peace angels. There are members here that have never once posted on one of the controversial threads. Not as antagonists, supporters, or piss angels, I mean peace angels. I would mention them by name but I don't think that's fair to them but everyone knows who these members are. They don't get involved and don't try to change the flavor or complain constantly about the flavor. Doesn't seem to bother them one way or the other. But Mish and Teenee have found their own spot in what they consider dysfunction where they want to participate and function in the dysfunction but be "above" the dysfunction. Like we haven't seen them before. Teenee, you know that there are many moderated forums, right? Why did you choose a non-moderated forum, and then complain about it and then continue to complain about it? Just out of curiosity.

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Amen to that Lev!

[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=mish][QUOTE=Teenee]Ok. Now come on. I may be a newbie to the forum but I am seasoned in life. And to tell you the truth, if a forum is this "dysfunctional and opinionated as well as judgmental," I may chose to not belong to it. Who has the time and engergy struggling w/chronic illnesses(s) to be casting punches and pokes at one another? Forums are for support and information. If you don't care about a particular person posting -- DON'T READ IT! It's that simple. Draw the bounday. I would expect such behavior out of young children, but we are adults, aren't we? Let's not lose sight of the purpose to help one another w/dignity, maturity and compassion. I will say this, I am embarrassed by the negativity and the nit-picking as a "NEWBIE" to see such immature behavior and time spent on such nonsense. Cut it out![/QUOTE]

{{{hugs}}}

Lyn

I'm hoping that Joonies husband read some of the attacks made against Joonie and they sat down and weighed the pros and cons of Joonie being on this board. I would think the attacks made against Joonie, outweighed the pros and Joonie decided she was a much better person than most on this board gave her credit for. I'm wishing Joonie well and hope she is doing well. She is a good person and deserves better.

Edited because mucher isn't a word and I seem to have to explain each and every edit now.lorster2009-10-22 10:56:21

[QUOTE=lorster]Shug, are you, or any of your cronies capable of taking responsibility for your actions...and what you say to others? I have NEVER, ONCE on this forum ever encountered an apology from any of you to another member that you wronged? Are you not capable of this? I have apologized many times on here....but none of you ever have. I find a problem with that.[/QUOTE]

Lorster.. you are an ASS.. and yes, I mean the curse word.

how dare you attack Shug and state that she is the cause of someone leaving this forum.. leaving a forum of FREE will.. not forced.. not attacked.. chosen to leave because they cannot stand the heat in the kitchen when THEY themselves turned up the fire!!

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Amen to that Lev!

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This thread was started out of concern for Joonie -- someone who has had RA for almost 30 years and who has been a member here since 2006.

As someone whose had RA for as long, I know very well the challenges and difficulties of living with RA. I just hope whatever is up with Joonie that she is getting the support and understanding that all RAers need to cope with and manage RA.

Shug never offered anything but SUPPORT to Joonie, or anyone else for that matter. The problem is, Joonie didn't want to hear the great advice that was given to her by anyone, much less Shug. Shug did not have any part in running Joonie off this forum. Joonie is the reason for herself not being here, no matter the reason.

Anyone who suggests that Shug is guilty for Joonie not being on the board is out of their mind.

Phats

Not much different that what you did to Roxy Phats.its not that shug ran joonie off the board...but hillhoney posts a topic that was dear to her and she is a good long standing member who is worried about Joonie, shug then posts something to the effect that hillhoney should use PM's....why? hillhoney has never offended anyone on here by starting a topic that causes trouble, its everyone else who has made this post trouble/

Yes the same happended to Roxy...those who dont conform to your way of thinking phats and doesnt take your advice is wrong...

i don't think phats ever apologized for what she did to Roxy.

I'm sure she didnt..roxy like Joonie was feeling really low at the time and life wasnt being too kind...Phats seems to hone in on people who are having a rough time .

That is bullcrap and you know it. You are pathetic. They are not even close to being the same.

QUOTE=lorster]Not much different that what you did to Roxy Phats.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]its not that shug ran joonie off the board...but hillhoney posts a topic that was dear to her and she is a good long standing member who is worried about Joonie, shug then posts something to the effect that hillhoney should use PM's....why? [/quote]
As another long standing member, Mrs Pincushion, you should be aware that it is inevitable that topics such as this attract controversy. Joonie in and of herself attracts controversy and whether innocently or not a topic about her will descend just as this one has. That is why I said that it might have been better to inquire into Joonie's well-being through PM. That is the only reason why.

As for running anyone, June included, off this forum, I simply do not have either the personal power nor the means to send anyone running: anyone. I have said it before, if June thought I was being harsh, unfeeling, or insensitive she should have confronted me.

I will not offer an empty apology to June nor to Hillhoney. I have done nothing to warrant making an apology. However, in spite of what has been said I can, do, and will offer apologies when I post incorrect information or skewed data.

Now, if anyone else would like to take a pot shot at me, at my intentions, or my integrity, fire away.

Actually, it doesn't matter to me if people take my advice or not. I'm certainly not the "all Knowing" about RA. Roxy and Joonie were practically the same person. Neither of them took responsiblity for their own medical issues and didn't want to take anyone's advice, not just mine. Additionally, when you come to the board for YEARS and complain about the same thing but don't do anything to fix it...I don't have time for that. Neither do many others...

Yes the same happended to Roxy...those who dont conform to your way of thinking phats and doesnt take your advice is wrong...

[/QUOTE] it sounded as if you were implying that Hillhoney posted this topic to cause controvesy...which we all know she didnt...and as the saying goes...instead of posting something negative, if you dont like it dont read it......i wish people would heed their own sayingsPhats, how do you know that either of them have/had the ability to fix it? Did you live a day in their life?[QUOTE=Joie]<>

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Having talked to Joonie I know exactly why she left. To reiterate....This thread was started out of concern for Joonie. Can you not respect that. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

TeedOff2009-10-22 16:06:48somebody who has RA for a long time, esp disabling RA, a loss of income and not many meds dues to money worries can easily slip into a depressed state and for anyone telling them to do this and that OR to snap ot of it really doesnt know what they are talking about. To talk to Joonie like you did Phats or Roxy is cruel and could have dire consequences rather than positive onesI tried to send Joonie a pm but her box is full. Empty your box Joonie.Lori...she is gone.This place is like a yard full of pit bulls with a few of us that were just picked up from the pound to be used for fight bait.

Let's just let this thread die PLEASE, so she won't see it and be hurt by it. There are plenty of other threads you can continue your battles.

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THIS IS A POSTING ABOUT JOONIE.......from a very concerned friend, do you all think life is about yourselves....how rude and unforgiving you are.

Hillhoney , This isnt fair to Joonie or to you I hope that you find out where she is and how she is. xx

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Can you pull your head out of Joonie's ass long enough to breathe? I think you're dillusional from lack of oxygen.[QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]its not that shug ran joonie off the board...but hillhoney posts a topic that was dear to her and she is a good long standing member who is worried about Joonie, shug then posts something to the effect that hillhoney should use PM's....why? hillhoney has never offended anyone on here by starting a topic that causes trouble, its everyone else who has made this post trouble/

Yes the same happended to Roxy...those who dont conform to your way of thinking phats and doesnt take your advice is wrong...

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YOU of all people can NOT talk about running people off the board.

Can you pull your head out of Joonie's ass long enough to breathe? I think you're dillusional from lack of oxygen.

So that's what happened to you.

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I'm sure she didnt..roxy like Joonie was feeling really low at the time and life wasnt being too kind...Phats seems to hone in on people who are having a rough time .

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No you did NOT just say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And YOU don't? Haven't any of you thought to get email addresses of your "friends" on here?

I certainly have.. I wouldn't allow the chance of an internet forum separating me from my friends...

maybe you should all consider doing that?? Instead of your postings and pleadings for her return??

That is what I said. If Joonie is sooo important to some of them on here, they would have a phone number or mailing address to contact her with. Sounds like a bunch of hot air to me.

[QUOTE=babs10]Haven't any of you thought to get email addresses of your "friends" on here?

I certainly have.. I wouldn't allow the chance of an internet forum separating me from my friends...

maybe you should all consider doing that?? Instead of your postings and pleadings for her return??

[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=babs10]Haven't any of you thought to get email addresses of your "friends" on here?

I certainly have.. I wouldn't allow the chance of an internet forum separating me from my friends...

maybe you should all consider doing that?? Instead of your postings and pleadings for her return??

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I find that to be a bit odd. I've never once thought of asking for anyone's email address on here or any other forum I'm on. Babs/Phats, Joonie obviously chose not to share her email addy with some of us. Her perogative.

Can I have your email addys??

ETA: And Phats, its not a matter of Joonie being sooo important, its about caring about her and hoping she is OK.

Sheesh.

LyndeeNZ2009-10-22 19:30:30[QUOTE=kelstev][QUOTE=babs10]Haven't any of you thought to get email addresses of your "friends" on here?

I certainly have.. I wouldn't allow the chance of an internet forum separating me from my friends...

maybe you should all consider doing that?? Instead of your postings and pleadings for her return??

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I'm with you, I don't ask for email addresses either !!

Okay, I understand and accept the rules now:

We are only allowed to ask how a member of this SUPPORT forum is, and check on their health if they are LIKED by the ruling body of the forum. Send all inquiries regarding proper concern to the proper "authorities".

If you foolishly wish to contact an individual who has been deemed unacceptable, it must be done by email.

got it. thanks for the clarification. thanks for the support and encouragement, as always!

Really Hillhoney? you ACCEPT those rules???I accept no rules from any member on this forum[QUOTE=Hillhoney]Okay, I understand and accept the rules now:

If you foolishly wish to contact an individual who has been deemed unacceptable, it must be done by email.

got it. thanks for the clarification. thanks for the support and encouragement, as always!

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me either kelI wouldnt give out my email add. to this board...

Why would Joonie need to do the same...to recieve emails loaded with Abuse from the ones who like to kick her when shes down...??? I DONT THINK SO.

I know someone who like Joonie was having a bad time with life in general, bad health, unable to get a job and low self esteem....they too were bullied by people with no morals or compassion for anyone who had problems......they now are stronger and more able to cope but life was hell for them for a long time....Walk a mile in someones shoes then think again.

Oh Jesus, quit your whining and crying and carrying on!!! Joonie is like a bad disease, you may be able to suppress it for a while but it's never completely cured...she'll be back, mark my words.[QUOTE=LyndeeNZ]Babs/Phats, Joonie obviously chose not to share her email addy with some of us. Her perogative.

Can I have your email addys??

ETA: And Phats, its not a matter of Joonie being sooo important, its about caring about her and hoping she is OK.

Sheesh.

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actually..

I have Joonie's HOME address, but I won't share that with any one... I asked for it..she gave it to me.

yes.. People in my life that I've met online and I enjoy (You know who you are!)

I think it is FOOLISH not to consider that.....

It used to be that way for me Babs, but after people developed multiple personality disorder and the whole climate here changed, I pulled back and don't feel comfortable asking for or giving that kind of information. It's very sad things have changed as they have.honey.. no one can truly hurt you with an email address.. what's the harm in that?

home addresses? that is a different story on a PUBLIC non-moderated board.... I completely agree. I had wanted to send Joonie something.. and she gave me her addy.

but most of the members here that I really want to remain in contact with should this AI forum cease to exist.. I have their emails.... and some of those who have already left as well.

babs102009-10-23 09:39:07There is an old saying, "There is no honor among thieves". In a den a thieves there may be a den of friend thieves but each and every thief knows that they must guard every peice of thier valuables from each other.

Do you really believe that the people involved in posting members of this forums personal information for the sole purpose of terrorizing those members and thier families of which joonie was one are going to give each other thier personal information of any sort? right Pincushion? You've got a lot of nerve talking about anyone bothering another member. You were a part of the group that gave out other members information, just like almost every one of this "joonie group" was. They know that if each other will give out someone elses personal information for the sole purpose of terrorizing, they are concerned that these same "friends" will give out thier personal information if thier friendship goes south or if "the group" decides that one of thier fellows is out. There is no honor among that type of people, it's just that simple. Yous need to go back and see who all was involved in giving out other members personal information. You can blast me all you want but those people are nothing less than terrorists that deserve every bad thing that happens to them.

LEV

Well perhaps they can't hurt you with an email address for a separate account that is only used for this forum, but I don't have that. I am what I am, and my identiity and email have been me for many, many years, and they are all one. Stupid and naive I know!

But I think the thing that bothers me the most is I can no longer trust people enough to open up that much, because they may be treating me nicely with one name, while bashing me under another. My innocence has been lost I guess.

Boy, I am in big trouble because I have so many great friends I met here that I "talk" to on a regular basis. Maybe I trust too easily but I don't think so. You can tell who has a kind heart very quickly.[QUOTE=Hillhoney]Okay, I understand and accept the rules now:

If you foolishly wish to contact an individual who has been deemed unacceptable, it must be done by email.

got it. thanks for the clarification. thanks for the support and encouragement, as always!

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from whom did you gather these rules?

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Can I have your email addys??

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nope.

[QUOTE=levlarry]There is an old saying, "There is no honor among thieves". In a den a thieves there may be a den of friend thieves but each and every thief knows that they must guard every peice of thier valuables from each other.

LEV

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You know Lev, it is such a sorry time when you must go back one year and dredge up old garbage. The member about which you are speaking was a mean spirited, foul mouthed individual who expressed her wish to have Obama "taken out" before he reached the White House. When confronted she then proceeded to scream and threaten members of this board....except you. When the threat came back to haunt her then she posted all of Gimpy's personal information. Real name, where she lived and her phone #. No one ever posted this information about her, just took a guess at what state she was from...I believe. You still chose to defend her and managed to turn all of that around and had friend attacking friend. To this day those people are still enemies so you should be happy.

Why can't you let sleeping dogs lie instead of dredging all this meaningless crap up and posting it over and over again. The new people on the board do not know what you are talking about nor are they interested. You did manage to run Gimpy off so LET IT GO!!!

Your petticoat is showing Babs............ I was too here Teed, I remember what went on with "that person". She had an opinion about Obama, expressed it and then was attacked by the far-left lovers. Is it only okay to express opinions (however strong or absurd) if they are what others believe? Last I looked, this was America and you could state your desire for someone to "not make into office", it's your right. She didn't say she wanted him shot by some nutcase or that she was going to do it. I too wished he'd never even been elected but now he is showing his true colors and his popularity rating is headed south. Guess some right-wingers weren't wrong after all.

A lot of you have VERY selective memories.

It was wrong for you to retaliate against "that person" for her opinion by posting her personal information AND going after her daughter through myspace. You couldn't come up with an intelligent comeback so you went below the belt. Typical dumb-asses.

FOR ALL NEWBIES: TRUST NO ONE ON THIS BOARD AND I MEAN NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen a bigger group of sincerely stupid people in all my life. It really never changes here. And let's not forget the selective and disillusioned memories.

[QUOTE=Lisa0nline]I was too here Teed, I remember what went on with "that person". She had an opinion about Obama, expressed it and then was attacked by the far-left lovers. Is it only okay to express opinions (however strong or absurd) if they are what others believe? Last I looked, this was America and you could state your desire for someone to "not make into office", it's your right. She didn't say she wanted him shot by some nutcase or that she was going to do it. I too wished he'd never even been elected but now he is showing his true colors and his popularity rating is headed south. Guess some right-wingers weren't wrong after all.

A lot of you have VERY selective memories.

FOR ALL NEWBIES: TRUST NO ONE ON THIS BOARD AND I MEAN NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen a bigger group of sincerely stupid people in all my life. It really never changes here. And let's not forget the selective and disillusioned memories.

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Lisa....You may have been here then but not as Lisa. THAT PERSON had every right to her opinion but you can expect to be called out if you are expressing that your President be "taken out." That to me means only one thing ASSASINATED. No one ever said the word but it was very clear. It was an ignorant thing to say. It was clear she did not like him as did the rest but they never expressed it that way. By "not making it into office" what do you think she meant? What he does or does not do is none of my concern. If she even had said "It was a bad choice of words" it would have made a world of difference. You can say you disagree with his politics why the rest of the derogitory remarks.

I never retaliated against "that person" by posting her personal information. I only saw where they said what state they thought she lived in and as far as going after her daughter...I have never belonged to or ever gone to myspace so it may have been possible but you are trying to make her out to not be responsible for any of HER actions.

FOR ALL THE NEWBIES....There are some very loving and compasionate people on this board so do not take one person's opinion to heart. It happens to be very jaded.

TeedOff,

You are a liar and you don't know what you are talking about. It seems one of your issues with "that" member was that the member was "mean spirited and foul mouthed", well then what the hell are you? You are much, much past that. Because a person said "I hope he (meaning Obama) doesn't make it to the white house", can be taken many ways. Maybe he gets assasinated, or found to be a traitor, or found to be not a citizen or what-ever. What you posted she said, she didn't say. You are such a liar. Show this forum where "she" [BEGIN TEEDOFF QUOTE] expressed her wish to have Obama "taken out" before he reached the White House [END QUOTE] It's your quote, now show it. Liar. Let's say someone had said even what you say she said but said it against Bush, you and the rest of the trash would have been okay with it. It wouldn't have bothered me. Hey TeedOff, the United States is still a free country with freedom of speech. [TEEDOFF QUOTE] When confronted she then proceeded to scream and threaten members of this board....except you. [END QOUTE] What did "she scream and threaten members of this board" with? Guns? Knives? Bombs? Gangs? Did you call the police? Were you even around? Nope. I stood up for "her" like I would for anyones right to free speech. I actually stated that i didn't agree with everything that she said and missed some of it, but I stood for her right to speak her mind. If a member(s) dislike another members words, they can ignore or respond. You have some problems TeedOff, and one of them is that you have no moral fiber. If someone posts something that is wrong and they are your friend, they are right according to you and your corrupt thought process, even though they are wrong. If someone you don't like speaks the truth, they are wrong according to you and your corrupt thought process. Your fellow birds posted "her" personal information and then turned on one of their own group and posted her information. That member had many times trashed me and yet, I stood up for her also. Gimpy was posting "her" information on the internet and THEN "she put out Gimpy's personal information. She and Gimpy came to a mutual understanding, Gimpy was to remove "her" info and "she woudld remove Gimpy's info. That's the order it went down. Liar. I had absolutely nothing to do with outing Gimpy. It's against the rules. I consider it criminal. But, since Gimpy was a part of the group posting members personal information for the sole purpose of terrorizing these members and thier families, I have no sympathy for Gimpy. Gimpy and the others involved in the outings deserve every bad thing that happens to them. I hope and expect that even more bad things come their way. TeedOff, in ten years, I'm still going to be bringing it up on this forum. You won't be here, but I will still continue to warn people that there really are peple as nasty, filthy as you and your fellow birds/ And anyone that gives you any of their personal information should know that all it would take is for that member to agree with me and against you and there is a good chance there personal info is out there. Yes, you are that nasty and moraly corrupt.

LEV

lev, you took the words right out of my mouth.Teed, actually she apologized for saying that about Obama. Then when some people ,I don't even remember who, refused to accept that, well, that's when things really hit the fan.

Oh I SEE....YOU ARE LISA NOW.

It's your quote, now show it. Liar. Let's say someone had said even what you say she said but said it against Bush, you and the rest of the trash would have been okay with it. It wouldn't have bothered me.

I would have been just as vocal as I was about Obama and anyone else contrary to your beliefs.

What did "she scream and threaten members of this board" with? Guns? Knives? Bombs? Gangs? Did you call the police? Were you even around? Nope. I stood up for "her" like I would for anyones right to free speech. I actually stated that i didn't agree with everything that she said and missed some of it, but I stood for her right to speak her mind. If a member(s) dislike another members words, they can ignore or respond.

You figure you're safe with that little statement because "She" very cleverly deleted all of her posts that had the foul mouthed and derogitory remarks. There are some still in existance so I will find them for you but in my own time not yours.

You have some problems TeedOff, and one of them is that you have no moral fiber

If I thought you knew what moral fibre was I might be upset but you do not have any morals at all. You managed to attack people who even were your friends at one time. Is that moral?

Your fellow birds posted "her" personal information and then turned on one of their own group and posted her information.

"Her" personal information was all over the place as I have been told. I can get that too for you. Gimpy's was not. Some very perverted person found all her 'personal' info somewhere other than on the computer and plastered it on here.

That member had many times trashed me and yet, I stood up for her also.

Because you hated Gimpy more.!!!

I had absolutely nothing to do with outing Gimpy.

Maybe you did and maybe you didn't...only you and Audry know for sure.

But, since Gimpy was a part of the group posting members personal information for the sole purpose of terrorizing these members and thier families, I have no sympathy for Gimpy.

So one person posted the info and just because Gimpy was part of their group it was ok to go after and post her info. Sounds a bit strange to me.

You won't be here, but I will still continue to warn people that there really are peple as nasty, filthy as you and your fellow birds/ And anyone that gives you any of their personal information should know that all it would take is for that member to agree with me and against you and there is a good chance there personal info is out there. Yes, you are that nasty and moraly corrupt.

Let us let them make that decision...not you. My email is full of tons of people who know and trust me, that is more than I can say for you.

And your stupid little idiotic birds comment is not lost on me. You poor fools still think I am Gimpy so think away. I wish she were here and would come back and kick your ass like she used to. You didn't like her because she had your number...and I don't mean phone.

expressed her wish to have Obama "taken out" before he reached the White House [END QUOTE]

From Levs rant above.

Bullsh*te Lev. I will find the exact post as Im sure I saved it by doing what Phats does...yannow....' saving for future use'. Audrey meant for Obama to be harmed. No doubt in most peoples minds who read that post.

LyndeeAsswipe...here you go. Doesn't sound to me like an assassination statement at all, it's kind of broad, covering all ways to prevent him from taking office. Just sounds to me like she didn't want him to become president, whether it was by illness, car wreck, heart attack, his time to go, whatever and maybe she didn't care if there was an attempt on his life...her choice, her right as an American to wish that. Doesn't make it right, but she has the right.

[QUOTE=AchingAudrey]I'm gonna catch hell for this I know it but I'd like to add to all the people here who support Hussein and belittle McCain...he ain't president yet and I hope he never makes it to the white house and if he does make it that he won't be there long. Terrible to say about 1 individual but the loss of that 1 would be better for the millions of Americans that call the USA home. I'd rather Biden be president than Hussein.[/QUOTE]

Lisa0nline2009-10-23 17:51:49If I was to read that somebody wanted someone TAKEN OUT, then I would assume that they wished for that someones demise, and a permanent one at that.

My fear for Obama was that someone would attempt to take him out, and not for dinner..
That has not happened.
[QUOTE=Lisa0nline] lev, you took the words right out of my mouth.[/QUOTE]

Lisa
You can think what you want and interpret that quote all you want, but let me tell you, at the time, the majority of members interpreted it as her hope that he would be assassinated before he made it to the white house. You are a low level citizen to ever think that what she said was ok. I don't care how much people hate the candidates, you just don't say things like that. It was a very volatile time when she said it and someone really should have turned her in. I hated the bush but I would never had said something like that and hoping that certainly never came to mind. It is just no ok. Bush is still a human being and anyone threatening him or hoping for that, should be dealt with.

Lev, to you. you mentioned members rights to free speech. Have you ever thought that that rule applies to all members? We all have the right to our opinions. So please keep that in mind when making such statements. Talking about hoping for an assissination of our president...does not fall into the rights of our free speech. If I read any member here, make a statement like that, I will record it and i will go to the secret service. And you can count on that, just a warning. Lorster...that statement implies that she wished he wouldn't make it to the white house, all be it by death, illness or anything really. Maybe YOU were the one's who automatically assumed assassination because I read that as "anything". PERIOD. You're a drama queen along with all the other drama seeking individuals here so I know that you made more out of her post than what she intended. It's par for the course for you.

Oh and someone said so