It never crossed my mind till Abazina showed up. The red flag for me was the writing style. If I never looked to see who was posting, I would have easily thought Abazina and Shug were one in the same. And that's strange with such an unusual way she/they express themself/selves.[QUOTE=Linncn]It never crossed my mind till Abazina showed up. The red flag for me was the writing style. If I never looked to see who was posting, I would have easily thought Abazina and Shug were one in the same. And that's strange with such an unusual way she/they express themself/selves.[/QUOTE]
yeah Linncn, they seem to write similarly (sp?) and i could've swore they were like sisters or related or really
close friends...or the same person *gasp*[QUOTE=kelstev][QUOTE=Lynn49][QUOTE=kelstev][QUOTE=Abazina] My last name is not Pope never has been. I met Shug a couple of months ago in the doctor's office, we had a conversation exchanged email addresses. We then spoke via email and a few times on the phone. Shug then invited me to this forum. End of story.
I am not Shug. Why in the name of all that is sacred would I perpetrate such a "hoax"? Conspiracy theories abound on the internet. I have my story and Shug had hers.
I had a moment where I wanted to defend myself, but that will not happen.
[QUOTE=StarPerson121]yeah Linncn, they seem to write similarly (sp?) and i could've swore they were like sisters or related or really
I haven't been wanting to come here because of this whole Shug/Abazina thing.
There were things that I didn't feel were adding up towards the end. My brother is dying and he is not able to do any of the things Shug was doing in her "last" days. He sleeps a lot, his brain is foggy from pain meds, he is confused and not articulate at all. But I always gave "Shug" the benefit of the doubt. She had some kind ways but this is the cruelest hoax I have ever encountered if it is just that...and I think it is. As soon as I saw that first post from Abazina the light bulb went off in my head. I smelled fish. There have been some just plain mean people here who have made this board an ugly & uncomfortable place to be but at least they never pretended to be people who were caring or people who needed sincere support. To lead people on like this...I mean there are a lot of people here who felt like the sun and the moon rose and set with Shug. I bet there are some people here with broken hearts. They thought they had a dear friend who was dying and needed their love and support and instead they got duped. It is beyond my wildest imagination of why anyone would have undertook such a scam. It is deplorable.
God forgive me if I'm wrong- but I don't think so. I was wondering when someone else was going to question this story because it seems so obvious to me.
I feel very mistrustful.
wanttobeRAfree2009-11-10 18:47:36I too was very suspicious when Abazina turned up using same style of writing, and conveniently 2 days before Shugs demise.
[QUOTE=wanttobeRAfree] I haven't been wanting to come here because of this whole Shug/Abazina thing.
.................................................... It is beyond my wildest imagination of why anyone would have undertook such a scam. It is deplorable.
God forgive me if I'm wrong- but I don't think so. I was wondering when someone else was going to question this story because it seems so obvious to me.
I feel very mistrustful.
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No doubt in my mind you are now on the right track !!
My BIL died last Feb & he too was vague, had trouble keeping awake & all the rest of the symptoms that show a person to be ill & in his case terminally ill.
My question was always - Ab having such a lot of info from a palliative care unit, under the privacy act here in Oz no-one can even ask if someone is there, much less get more information - to tell anyone who is where & their physical state at that time would be a sackable offence .. then Ab was saying she/he didn't know Shug that well --- didn't make sense !!
Just seems to me to be a contrived story by some very very sick individuals.
Caught out I believe !!
Well Maz. here in the USA, when a person is admitted to a hospital, the person, or their POA must sign a release of information for any information to be released by the staff. That release must list each and every individual by full name that info can go to and in many places, the person is given a code number that they must give at the time of requesting the info. That release of information must be looked at each and every time someone calls. A nurse or other employee of a hospital can be terminated immediately for violating a HIPPA law. Abizinas name would have to have been on that release for her to get any info on Shug.
I have been suspicious from the get go. Seems too weird to me. People toward the end of their lives are normally not sitting on a forum posting. They are usually too sleepy or just plain too sick to do that.
I hope this is not some sort of a hoax by Shug and Abizina. If it is, how terribly sad. At this point, many people on here are having doubts. If Abizina wants to straighten this out, she will have no problem asking Bob, if she can share some info with us. If she cannot do this, or refuses to do this, I will continue to be suspicious of this whole situation. It is not uncommon for hospitals here to offer wi-fi service for patients
and guests. Some even have some loaner laptops for patients to use.
Regarding hospice information release - I think hospice rules tend to be a bit more relaxed regarding visitors and giving out information to friends and family, if the patient wishes. Not sure if that's how the HIPAA regulations are supposed to be, but that's been my experience. And when someone dies, it's a matter of public record.
That being said, I still don't believe in this tale.
[QUOTE=SnowOwl]
Makes one wonder, doesn't it Jas?well.. well well.
This has been a lesson learned ....... for me at least.
There are a small number of you who knew of my suspicions which I posted to you recently. And I fear that I, along with several of you, were right.
I've not been around here much for a few weeks.. I was so certain that this... this occurance was coming... and being unable to really head off this slowly moving train... I opted to get off.
I am SO disappointed in human nature. WTF would cause someone to do this? how sad a life that they needed to play this game.
Well, I took it hook line and sinker and now feel pretty pissed and stupid that I wasted so much energy on something that apparently never was. I noted the similiarities between the two, but brushed it off thinking there is no way this could happen.
This board will never be the same because we will never trust the same again. I am pissed off!
Phats
I know nothing really of who Shug was...but what I read...what I read was heart felt compassion towards someone you all felt you lost...nothing has changed, really.
I mean shug is gone...either through death or hoax...I am sorry for all that have suffered a loss...whatever kind it might be.
[QUOTE=babs10]well.. well well.
[QUOTE=Bodak] [QUOTE=babs10]well.. well well.
This has been a lesson learned ....... for me at least.
There are a small number of you who knew of my suspicions which I posted to you recently. And I fear that I, along with several of you, were right.
I've not been around here much for a few weeks.. I was so certain that this... this occurance was coming... and being unable to really head off this slowly moving train... I opted to get off.
I am SO disappointed in human nature. WTF would cause someone to do this? how sad a life that they needed to play this game.
[/QUOTE]Babs, You once said in reply to someone that if only they knew who she was.
Well, who was she?
[/QUOTE]
I thnk you're being cruel, Stephen. is that your intent??
[QUOTE=babs10][QUOTE=Bodak] [QUOTE=babs10]well.. well well.
This has been a lesson learned ....... for me at least.
There are a small number of you who knew of my suspicions which I posted to you recently. And I fear that I, along with several of you, were right.
I've not been around here much for a few weeks.. I was so certain that this... this occurance was coming... and being unable to really head off this slowly moving train... I opted to get off.
I am SO disappointed in human nature. WTF would cause someone to do this? how sad a life that they needed to play this game.
[/QUOTE]Babs, You once said in reply to someone that if only they knew who she was.
Well, who was she?
[/QUOTE]
I thnk you're being cruel, Stephen. is that your intent??
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I was actually wondering the same thing..not being cruel..just remember u telling someone that if they had known who shug really was or what job she did..can't remember...that they would have been ashamed for talking to her that way..
I'm probably not 100% right...but I think that Stephen is wondering who she said she was or what she did?? Is that what u mean Stephen?
i think Stephen could perform his own clarifications, kelstev.....
I think in light of all that has transpired.. and my already stating that I was duped... my response is unnecessary to that question... and I think it is cruel to have rubbed in my face the fact that I trusted and genuinely liked her.I don't think anyone is trying to rub your face in it Babs. There are so many people on here that are so hurt by what has transpired, Bodak being just one of them. Please do not take offence at anything that anyone says as I am sure that nothing is meant by it.
Pat
[QUOTE=babs10]
i think Stephen could perform his own clarifications, kelstev.....
I think in light of all that has transpired.. and my already stating that I was duped... my response is unnecessary to that question... and I think it is cruel to have rubbed in my face the fact that I trusted and genuinely liked her.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure Stephen can perform his own clarifications, Babs....and I can reply to any post that I want.[QUOTE=babs10]
i think Stephen could perform his own clarifications, kelstev.....
I think in light of all that has transpired.. and my already stating that I was duped... my response is unnecessary to that question... and I think it is cruel to have rubbed in my face the fact that I trusted and genuinely liked her.[/QUOTE]
Oh no Babs, It time to to go on and on about this ad nauseum...Lets really beat this one into the ground...Make everyone feel horrible and crow about it.Kelstev has summed up my thoughts to a tee.
Well I can't help but feel anger and bitterness about how this has evolved. On more than one occasion, when I disagreed with something Shug said, I was chastised, and left out there looking like the bad guy. When I posted a thread inquiring about how someone I missed was doing, it turned into an ugly, nasty attack thread, because some people didn't like the person I was checking on. But in every thread for Shug, people gushed about how amazing she was.
Babs, you gave me a hard time for not knowing how to get in touch with the people I cared about from this forum, privately off the board. How's that working for you now???? I was very hurt and ashamed by the way the Joonie thread went, feeling I was responsible for her being hurt even more than she already had been. And now the hypocrisy of it all is just making me sick.
To begain with I got to say that shug, real or not helped me and others,
But I wondered about her from the begaining. She came on in March I think and took over, alway right. She wrote more like a story, then real life, everything was to well written for AI broad. And I have been close to dead a few times and I sure didn't feel like watching tv or being on a cp. just wanted to sleep. Do they allow cp is icu. My thinking was no flowers or anything personal.
I stopped trusting people on the net after a 14 year old girl die of cancer. She posted for a while about how sick she was, then the mother posted about her being rush to hospital, they took turns posting ( sometimes the girl would be to sick to post.) then the mother posted about how her little girl died in hers arms. Had everyone crying. Went into another chat room the next morning and there was the 14 year old sick as can be, but hadn't died yet in that room. Boy was people mad. It was one person playing a sick game. You can be anybody or anything you want to be in here. So much goes on in here, too many news ones, that you have no idea who they are. But we got to remember we were all new at one time. We can't run people off....it seen like some you just know and wait to see how it ends.
Have a great night
Rusty
This is all very difficult for me... I have shed more than one tear for
Shug/with Shug over the last 6 months. She posted such encouraging
post to me and would sometimes pm me with messages of encouragement,
offered sympathy in being courageous enough to face my fears and deal
with the things that were on my mind. I believed her when she said she
was burning a candle for me during my surgery. And, I did my best, as
all of you did, to let her know she was not alone during her illness,
burning a candle for her that burned for far too short of a time and
that I found difficult to blow out on Sunday. I don't know if I was
any closer to her than you all were really, I had no more personal
information than you all did, we just shared some bad times and reach
out to one another. I think I would be truly heart broken to
find out this was a hoax. Would it erase what she did for me at the time? No. But it would be a painful dishonesty I could not forgive and plant seeds of distrust in all she had said.
Snow, I so hope this is not some sort of study, that would be horrific in my way of thinking and how credible could it be really? Whatever, it is a twisted, sick mind that would do this and not only unethical, but immoral and unconscionable as well. Sad.
I am so gullible when it comes to the Internet, trusting too much
perhaps, wanting to believe in the good in people, reach out for
invisible friends when the body can't move out the door. I share too
much, but that is who I am and I can only hope it doesn't come back to
hurt me. I heard bells this past week as well, but just did not want to examine it all too closely and even felt shame for feeling so. I will get past this, continuing to trust others who have befriended me
here... I even searched for a death notice so I might send Bob my sympathy and maybe share a thought or two on Shug. I could find nothing, but still did not want to say anything because I didn't want to believe it all.
Can I ask... Abazina, I am begging for your honesty, can you give us some answers? It can't hurt you, no one here can hurt you and you don't even have to stick around for what will come should you decide to confess. Please set things right, for Shug's sake if for nothing else.
[QUOTE=Bodak] [QUOTE=babs10]well.. well well.
This has been a lesson learned ....... for me at least.
There are a small number of you who knew of my suspicions which I posted to you recently. And I fear that I, along with several of you, were right.
I've not been around here much for a few weeks.. I was so certain that this... this occurance was coming... and being unable to really head off this slowly moving train... I opted to get off.
I am SO disappointed in human nature. WTF would cause someone to do this? how sad a life that they needed to play this game.
[/QUOTE]Babs, You once said in reply to someone that if only they knew who she was.
Well, who was she?
[/QUOTE]
I believe I was the person she told that to. But hey... I can tell ya'll I knew she was a fraud from the beginning. I tried to like her, but she never seemed like she wanted to like me and like she already had a grudge against me from the get go.
But I digress.
Hope everyone is well. Miss all of my non-naive friends. You never let me down
Huggs to all!
Waddie and SnowOwl,
You two never cease to amaze me. You are calm and insightful in the midst of the endless recriminations here. Thank you so much. You restore my faith in humanity......
Oh, Lynn, I am choking on my tears right now - I am crying for what we all have lost, whether anyone believes in Shug or not.
I joined this website very shortly before Shug died. Here are a couple things I do know:
While most hospitals allow MD's to have iPhones and other electronic devices in the ICU, patients are not allowed to have them in the ICU wards of the hospitals that I am familiar with [in the US]. The reason for this is because many patients tend to try to work while in the hospital and the equipment tends to raise the stress levels and blood pressure. Of course, someone visiting the patient in the ICU could have a Blackberry or iPhone on his person.
I have been on other websites and have witnessed a lot of “morphing” of posters.......when they get rude or are admonished by the moderator and their membership canceled, or when they end up embarrassing themselves in some way, often they come back under a new identity. In fact I was banished from one website for "seeing through" one of the posters.
As far as a Psych or Sociology project, in grad schools these projects are approved by professors. I know of no professor who would approve such research. On the other hand, if someone was researching website forum behavior for an IT project, that might be more casual and probably wouldn’t need approval. But all in all, I think it's far-fetched.
I think the lesson learned is to let it go and just be cautious of what you write, all the while remembering that some people are not who they say they are. Sad, isn't it?
I don't think anyone should feel bad/foolish/etc for believing.
[QUOTE=Sam1234]
I joined this website very shortly before Shug died. Here are a couple things I do know:
While most hospitals allow MD's to have iPhones and other electronic devices in the ICU, patients are not allowed to have them in the ICU wards of the hospitals that I am familiar with [in the US]. The reason for this is because many patients tend to try to work while in the hospital and the equipment tends to raise the stress levels and blood pressure. Of course, someone visiting the patient in the ICU could have a Blackberry or iPhone on his person.
I have been on other websites and have witnessed a lot of “morphing” of posters.......when they get rude or are admonished by the moderator and their membership canceled, or when they end up embarrassing themselves in some way, often they come back under a new identity. In fact I was banished from one website for "seeing through" one of the posters.
As far as a Psych or Sociology project, in grad schools these projects are approved by professors. I know of no professor who would approve such research. On the other hand, if someone was researching website forum behavior for an IT project, that might be more casual and probably wouldn’t need approval. But all in all, I think it's far-fetched.
I think the lesson learned is to let it go and just be cautious of what you write, all the while remembering that some people are not who they say they are. Sad, isn't it?
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sounds sensible to me
Shug was very real. She died and her cremains are sitting on the bookcase.
Shug did not have a computer in ICU, but she did on the dialysis unit with her doctor's blessing.
I lost my heart and my best friend and now I am confronted with all these accusations.
Ya know anyone can be whoever they claim to be online. I used to chat in a room for people that were 30ish. You would think folks that age would be old enough to not act like they're 12. We had a person come in and act like they were OD'ing on some drug. Another person would chime in that they had somebody's phone number and would send them to check on the OD'ing person. There were 4 "people" involved in this, the 4 turned out to be one person who just wanted attention. A female member of this room met a guy from same room. She lived in London, he lived in PA. She swore up and down she was pregnant with their child. Then at 6 months she had a miscarriage. In the end she admitted she lied about the whole thing because she wanted to come to the US.Belief isn't a choice - whether it's a world religion or just one person's story. Someone either believes, or they don't.
[QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]
I gotta tell you people one thing...this forum and all of it's idiot "regular" members is one pathetic, sad, sick, PSYCHO place to be on the internet.
What kind of sick f ucks fake death for attention and in addition to that, what kind of a sick f uck posts a public thread about a conspiracy theory regarding the death, fake or not?
Would it have killed all of you to NOT donate money, give written condolences and just let it go?
Sick in the head, all of you need to visit your local rubber room and check yourselves in for a bit.
Oh and thanks PP! I am truely sorry if my post upset or offended anyone, I posted before I went to bed last night believing that it was a weight off my shoulders. I never realised so many of you thought the same.
To all of you that were taken in and hurt by the deceit , you are not stupid nor foolish, until I started looking at this properly i never realised it went on so much on the net, as Lyndee posted, it seems to be a real illness.
Phats I make a huge apology to you, when I posted the donation thread I already knew about this information but didnt say anything as I was hoping who ever this was would tell us it was all a fake!! So I do apologise to you and anyone else who was thinking of making a donation.
Sharon Coffer, I really hope that you havent lost a sister. No one as I remember knew about this site she went on , not even Bob, so to come on here and read her memorials doesnt make sense.
Take care everyone
x
I don't feel bad or sad. I feel resentful that someone made an ass of us. That's all she did. There was no good in this at all.
[QUOTE=wanttobeRAfree]I don't feel bad or sad. I feel resentful that someone made an ass of us. That's all she did. There was no good in this at all.[/QUOTE]
No one was made an ass of because they felt empathy and compassion for someone else, even if that someone else was a work of fiction.WTBRAF
The ass is the hoaxer. Its no ones fault they fell for her stories, they did all seem some what real
just so Kelstev isnt seen as a liar or trouble maker , i think this is the post she is referring to in her response
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Originally posted by Maz-aust
Oh Spelunker - sweet talking will get you nowhere with me, or I'm guessing with anyone else either ...
Congratulations - you really are showing your true colours now aren't you!!
Over here in Oz children have laws to protect them from over zealous strangers and, parents don't look too kindly to others chastising their children. Must be different over there, how fortunate for you.
Come to think about it, you seem to spend a great deal of time scolding people you don't know on a website, have you ever thought of getting a professional to analyse why you do that ... do you think you actually have power over someone on a website ?? Wouldn't think so.
Remember, power is given not taken!!
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you are SO off base on this Maz...... if YOU only knew what SHugs profession was.. You would hide your embarrassed head in shame....
what a fool you've made yourself out to be to those of us who KNOW who Shug is.
How many 14 year olds have you raised, Maz?
I'm on my FIFTH... and yes, if he's to become a productive member of society.. he should be told when he steps out of line..... otherwise.. he may grow to be an adult who insults people without thinking before posting.
NOT To mention.. she is the most supportive person on this site...
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Keep chumming the water Getting worked up over this is like getting worked up over discovering that Santa and the Toothfairy aren't real.
We can belive when we need to and enjoy the happiness they brought. We don't get mad at them for not being real.
At any rate, Why on earth should we care if it was real or not. We need to take what we can use from whatever source and discard the rest. And what we discard may indeed be what someone else can use.
My library can still use a book on RA.
The Arthritis Foundation and Animal Protective groups still need cash.
We still need a place where people understand what we are going through. Shug seemed to get it.
We werent at Shug's renewal. Maybe she sat on a sofa and recited vows. Maybe she's been in bed typing, and it gave her strength.. Or not. What is the difference?
The shark has circled....it hoaxed us hook, line and sinker...
Just a shame that it cant own up to its feast
WTBRAF. I am so sorry i didnt tell you before but i needed to be sure and that came about when abazina came here
Kathy there are people on here who are so upset over it who thought they lost a friend to death....thats is the shock
I do see where you are coming from xx
[QUOTE=bobpope]
[QUOTE=Mrs Pincushion]
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I think you could put a lot of minds to rest if you would post a link of her death notice, it is public record by now. thanks bobSo anyway,
Did I somewhere miss the "proof" that Spelunker was/is a fraud? If I did, would someone pull up the proof so that i don't have to go back and re-read all this bullsh*t. I do want to say that I am very disappointed in a few of you members that I had respect for. I would never expect yous to make a decision on inuendoes and bullsh*t. I totally expect the other bottom feeders to follow the queen bottomfeeder Pincushion, that's no surprise. How many times has Pincushion had "proof" until it comes down to it and then she not only doesn't have the "proof" but she actually made up the "proof", the bottomfeeder doesn't even have the moral fiber to apologize. Pincushion spends 10-14 hours a day here and most of that time is spent on the "active users" page. Let me just ask this. Pincushion, if it is found that as usual you are a lowlife liar and troublemaker and that Spelunker is real and has left this world, will you leave this forum and never come back? To those of you that I respect, I hope you will re-evaluate this whole conspiarcy theory, consider Pincushions past conpiracies, and give to the benifit of the doubt theory above Pincushion's "guilty until proven otherwise" theory.
LEV
levlarry2009-11-11 07:49:59It is so cute how Bob in the sad state he must be in is able to navigate the site so well and even go back and post a quote using the etools. Go, Bobby!! It took me forever to figure out how to do that [/QUOTE]
Freckles,
Anyone that has ever read your posts would probably wonder how you even figured out how to breath.
LEV
oh lev i have the proof, its in the fact that 40 or more people saw through it and i have the address and names of the people who live there...so go bug someone else....i dont spend all that time on here lev....my computer is set up to be online unless i turn it off...so i might be online but im not on here...
I actually dont spend more than 1 to 2 hours on my computer a day....apologise for your lie.
I was given all the info by lots of people Lev..none that you could call bottom feeders...
The only thing sadder than spending so many hours sitting in the active user's page is being the one who know's about it [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]
I think if Bob is able to provide us with some answers, we will all feel better about this, and that means proof, such as a death notice. If not, I will consider this a sick cruel joke.Pincushion,
Just show us the proof. Just because your fellow bottom feeders applaud each other, is proof of nothing more than who the bottomfeeders are. Show the proof. Show the proof, bottomfeeder. Same nasty people, right Lorster? Where ever filth goes, there will be Lorster. Birds of a nasty feather. Worse than turkey vultures that feed on the 3 day old dead.
LEV
levlarry2009-11-11 08:20:33stop asking for proof...you won't get it...I mean really...If you believe it is a hoax...then you believe it is a hoax...let it be. Some may not believe it is a hoax...at least show them some respect.
I know of one member here who was really hurt by Shug passing...then this all came up..guess what this person is hurt even more...like adding salt to a open wound.
No Lisa Proof is something that means the same in both countries, apart from having Shug come out here and tell us she was hoaxing all I have is names and addresses for Joan and bob pope at the same place of residence as shug lived.
abazinas name is joan and shugs name is pope..they talk the same and the spellings of certain words are exacatly the same, even the spelling mistakes.
Most of the members on here thought the same as I did and i never said it was a fore gone conclusion that this is what happened I said I thought it was a hoax...it was me saying what I thought..I am not deaf, i hear what you are saying
My grandmother had amyloidosis and my aunt has it....believe me if shug was that ill from it she wouldnt have been posting on here like she did...
If you got married and was on deaths door would you then leave your wedding and come sit on AI...i doubt it....
As i knew people would question my thoughts so I have written to scripps to convey my condolances ( as i would be very sad if someone had died on here) but I have told them that I think someone is commiting a fraudulent death using their name as their medical team.
If i am wrong about this I would be mortified and apologise as its not something i have done lightly, i have had my doubts about this for months....
we shall see
Pincushion,
You were wrong about me. Obviously...
Wondering....do I get an apology? Are you mortified?... I recall you saying that if you were wrong you would be the first to apologize...well?....
sorry im not sure who you are.....if i have done something to upset you then please pm me to sort it out but i really have no idea what i have done....there have been so many inflameds, lisaonlines that i dont know who is whoyou wouldn't know proof it hit you in the head....
WOW!
After all this time I'm just amazed that I still find this forum weirdly entertaining. I wasted my lunch time reading about this supposed hoax. Frankly, I don't spend enough time on here to have put two and two together if this is in fact true. The only thing I remember thinking about Shug was that she appeared to be a highly intelligent woman and that I admired her positive attitude on numerous occations.
Frankly; I hope it was a hoax at this point. How sad would it be to know that one of our "beloved" members; that so many here appeared to love and admire has passed on and that death has now served to stir up another argument amongst us that in the end is useless.
If it wasn't so sick, it would be funny.
[QUOTE=levlarry] So anyway,
Lev, the majority of the posts on this thread are from people who have doubts. Are they all bottom feeders too?
[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=levlarry]So anyway,
Did I somewhere miss the "proof" that Spelunker was/is a fraud? If I did, would someone pull up the proof so that i don't have to go back and re-read all this bullsh*t. I do want to say that I am very disappointed in a few of you members that I had respect for. I would never expect yous to make a decision on inuendoes and bullsh*t. I totally expect the other bottom feeders to follow the queen bottomfeeder Pincushion, that's no surprise. How many times has Pincushion had "proof" until it comes down to it and then she not only doesn't have the "proof" but she actually made up the "proof", the bottomfeeder doesn't even have the moral fiber to apologize. Pincushion spends 10-14 hours a day here and most of that time is spent on the "active users" page. Let me just ask this. Pincushion, if it is found that as usual you are a lowlife liar and troublemaker and that Spelunker is real and has left this world, will you leave this forum and never come back? To those of you that I respect, I hope you will re-evaluate this whole conspiarcy theory, consider Pincushions past conpiracies, and give to the benifit of the doubt theory above Pincushion's "guilty until proven otherwise" theory.
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Just a bunch of followers who cannot come up with their own original thoughts and actions. After what the "bottomfeeders" did to one of their own, look at #1inflamedonline - she jumped right back on their bandwagon, people's desperation for attention and sense of belonging knows no bounds. Inflamed, you're a pathetic and sad individual and I truly feel pity for you. Not only have you befriended the very people who ran you into the ground - you put them on a pedestal. I'm not surprised, I read some of your old posts last night and your mouth is just as nasty and filty, spewing vile and hatred to rival that of prickcushion's.
No, I'm not Audrey, but you go ahead and fixate on that idea if it makes you feel better. All of you ran Audrey off of this board on a rail because she didn't share your opinions or run with the pack so to speak, that was sad. She even apologized and you still tore into her like a pack of ravenous dingos. And she is just one in a long line of many I've watched you do this to over the years.
Now you're accusing someone's loved one of being a fake and not really dying. What kind of sick f uck's are you people??? If you had doubts, don't send money but you should have NEVER, EVER implied that this person didn't lose a loved one. Who does that? Really!!!
I believe in karma and everyone of you, one day, will get what's coming your way.
You want to know why I'm here under this name - because if I posted what I really thought about you under my real screenname I too would be run off this board and I've been here a lot longer than most of you have. Not to mention your total disdain for Lisa/IO, she sure brought out the worst in all of you, you can't resist the temptation to stir up s hit, you do it nearly everyday. Acting like investigators, trying to police this board like you own it. Well you don't and never will. My wife and I are looking into buying this board from Ernest and if/when I do - I know who will be "run out on a rail" and this forum will be cleaned up and run the way it should be ran - as an RA support forum.
Carry on with your sickness, enjoy it while you can.
Your name is lisa and you are a man?[QUOTE=lorster]I think if Bob is able to provide us with some answers, we will all feel better about this, and that means proof, such as a death notice.
If not, I will consider this a sick cruel joke.[/QUOTE]
Was there ever any doubt??????????????????????????????????? You go lorster! Queen of lousy nurses. Hmmmmm, does this kind of empathy extend to your patients? I guess all that we read about you on allnurses.com was correct. Lisa whatever your name is , show me where i have a vile mouth to rival yours.
Yes strange you are a man hiding behind a womans name
[QUOTE=lorster]Your name is lisa and you are a man?[/QUOTE]
Oh God, WHERE have you been dumbass? Yes I am a man, married to a lovely woman (very unlike the sick bitches on here, you included) that is stricken with RA.
My name isn't Lisa though, give it up, you will NEVER find out who I am on this board. Do all your investigating, policing, research. You will never, ever know and when all this is over, I still won't tell you.
I dont care who you are. you are the least of my problems on here, i dont actually give two hoots if you are a woman , a man, married or single. I wouldnt investigate you , my time is worth more than that...
Well if this is'nt sad. She helped a lot of people.
even tho I didn't like her, I amired her.
I wanted to make this post about her, but didn't want everyone jumping me, like they did in the Amnesty post. She could do no wrong and no one had better say a word about her.
The way she used her funcy works to put people down, sad, very sad. The way she picked on star and others, I could go on but why kick someone one who is gone, We need to move on and Start fighting about something else......LOL Oh no she hated LOL...It's not funny.
Let's all be big about this and just let my post be the last one in this thread and move on.
Interesting
Who CARES about this, really the person on the other side of the screen is invisible.
That is exactly why I do not share info or become part of the PM patrol who have deemed themselves police and outers of personal info on others. What webs they weave and amazing the people they pull into this rubbish. I read stories all the time that seem off. Can you honestly say you have not presented a FISH STORY lORSTER BEFORE?
The internet is not a place of honesty...most people can figure these things out for themselves.
"GOD IS GREAT
BEER IS GOOD
PEOPLE ARE CRAZY" :)
mabus2009-11-11 15:51:35[QUOTE=Lisa0nline][QUOTE=lorster]Your name is lisa and you are a man?[/QUOTE]
Oh God, WHERE have you been dumbass? Yes I am a man, married to a lovely woman (very unlike the sick bitches on here, you included) that is stricken with RA.
My name isn't Lisa though, give it up, you will NEVER find out who I am on this board. Do all your investigating, policing, research. You will never, ever know and when all this is over, I still won't tell you.
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Why on earth would a man impersonate a woman other than for money (ie female impersonators)
No doubt about it you are one sick puppy
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Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! Look what you're all doing. Creating stress...........which is good for NONE of us.
Let's all be big about this and just let my post be the last one in this thread and move on.
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Spare me the lecture. Nothing wrong with people wanting/needing to talk about this.
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Exactly Jas. Hold your clucking tongue Sam1234 of 67 posts and less than a month's membership.....
do you know what is worse than discussing something that is stressful?? not talking about it.
Revel on!
I'll talk about it forever and a day..
I'll say.. in some way, shape, manner or form...I lost a friend..someone who's banter I enjoyed.. who's wit challenged me .... who's thoughtfulness was beyond reproach... who entertained, commented and laughed with me all these months. I know I trust her with all the things I told that they would never be revealed to those who Can't Understand Normal Thinking.
in some way, she has gone.....
I am not sure what happened here..... I'm not really sure I care. I enjoyed knowing Shug Pope.... and I miss her now that she's gone.
I genuinly cried when I read that Shug had passed. I had not been online the day that Abazina made her introduction post. I went and looked it up the next day and became immediately suspicious. I thought Wow does everyone in New Mexico talk the same way or what?
I have not decided if I think it is a hoax or a coincidence. I am just saying that many people felt the same way about the same thing. It does not make us terrible people to talk about having had the same thoughts.
Well I'm not sure how good a friend it would be that would create such a lie, and allow people to express such grief, plan donations in their memory, presumably while enjoying every moment. I can understand the need to put a positive spin on this, but I don't see how to put one on this. They say you catch more flies with honey, and there certainly were a lot of flies caught in this trap, myself included for a time.
[QUOTE=Hillhoney]Well I'm not sure how good a friend it would be that would create such a lie, and allow people to express such grief, plan donations in their memory, presumably while enjoying every moment. [/QUOTE]
Would not be classed as a friend of mine if they pulled that type of stunt.
Bodak2009-11-11 23:59:25perhaps you are having difficulty removing your thought process from a box.
I lost a friend..
whether it was by hoax or by death.. the loss is genuine..
I think Pincushion did the right thing here with the memorial/donation thread. I don't think her intentions were to "trap" anyone here who believed in 'spelunker.' And if she was wrong, and it was found out that she was a real person, then that would have provided closure for many here and also a way for people to donate to a worthy cause. She wasn't asking for money for herself. And if someone did donate money in 'Shug's' name to some charity, that's not a bad thing - even if she was a fictitious character. It's unfortunate that some people feel hurt and betrayed but Pincushion did not do that betraying. The 'spelunker' perpetrator did.
I don't believe some of the other conspiracy theories floating around here, but this particular episode seems to have raised suspicions in alot of people. And I don't think ANYONE should feel bad, stupid, foolish, etc for having believed in 'Shug.' I think that many of us doubters were feeling bad for quite some time for doubting, and personally, I gotta tell you it feels good to see that there were so many others who felt the same way.
[QUOTE=JasmineRain]I think Pincushion did the right thing here with the memorial/donation thread. I don't think her intentions were to "trap" anyone here who believed in 'spelunker.' And if she was wrong, and it was found out that she was a real person, then that would have provided closure for many here and also a way for people to donate to a worthy cause. She wasn't asking for money for herself. And if someone did donate money in 'Shug's' name to some charity, that's not a bad thing - even if she was a fictitious character. It's unfortunate that some people feel hurt and betrayed but Pincushion did not do that betraying. The 'spelunker' perpetrator did.
I don't believe some of the other conspiracy theories floating around here