Or maybe they need brownies of another sort to lighten the Hell up!
Mel, Try looking at this a little differently and not use the descriptive term of rheumatoid arthritis.
Use instead, "I have R A D", then stop.
Our disease definitely needs a new name! I like RAD... makes me think of "radical" and the teenage mutant ninja turtles. (Hey, I've got kiddos!)
I'm part of a forthcoming non-profit organization and our goal is to raise awareness about disease like ours. We are going to succeed and one day *everyone* will understand it's not just arthritis.
Thank you, everyone, for your support while I raved like a lunatic! Feels awesome to have a family who knows EXACTLY what you're going though. Love you guys. I really do!
Hope everyone is having a superfantastic and extra-comfortable day!
Wow. Shame on the person who sees a person in a wheelchair and calls them lazy. And shame on the person who dismisses another's pain. But I do feel sorry for the person who gets a big "f you" for trying to empathize, or offers an advil or cheese (?). Although no one but you can feel your pain, most people can relate to suffering, and who are you to say that theirs isnt as great as yours? I remember offering advil to a woman I was working with because she had a migraine. She told me no thanks, that doesn't help a migraine. I wonder if she went away thinking I was a f-ing idiot because I didn't know that, or if she thought I was belittling her pain. Hope not. I was trying to help.I think it goes both ways. I've seen "just regular old arthritis" bring a tough burly grown man to tears from the pain... and it's not always fixable either.
As for the migraine/advil - actually, NSAIDs can be useful in treatment of migraine, especially in a person who can't take the triptans.
There's a clear difference between people who offer what they have, trying to help, and people who minimize your condition by tossing an aspirin ar you or suggesting some dumb ass quick fix. If it were as easy as that, I'd have done it long ago. Snow, perfect example of being judged instantly by a moron. Sorry about your friend's taste in men. You obviously were polite and didn't inquire, "Why in the world do you think your opinion means jack to me?" Sometimes I get so tired of being polite to those who aren't polite to me, but that's the Woman's Way. The older and crankier I get, the more danger the morons I meet are in.Maybe the person with OA just wants to be acknowledged too. Just because the the suffering may not be as bad, and really who's to say as we can only feel our own pain, but does that mean it should be written off, dismissed, because another is worse off? I also think that people are usually just trying to relate as best they can by the closest personal reference that they have. OA may not always be as bad, but whoever has it knows what it is like to live with chronic pain, they know what it's like to have loved activities become outside their reach, they know what its like to watch their hands become a gnarled mess.
Maybe Im way off, I know the tone and circumstance of a comment have to be taken into account too. And Mel sure seems like a nice person. My posts probably don't apply to her.
Oh! if you only knew what it's like to be made fun of from the time your born, just becauce your different. If you only knew how it feels, to be made fun of, just about everytime you talk. Then get RA and be treated like a crazy retare, becauce of the meds and the way you talk. or to have people to pat you on the back and say nothing, give you a pity look like your dying or dumb. Even Doctors. I just want to scream, but if you get upset, you seem to prove their point.
Some people you can't help. It's an insault to them, others are hurt, because you do nothing. they think you don't care. It's hard unless you know the person. But for someone to know you and what your going thur and offer you a aspirin or to not help when they can, is crazy.
rusty2010-03-19 15:59:41I'm not saying my pain is greater than anyone elses. My feelings were hurt because the symptoms of this disease always seem to be dismissed once people hear "arthritis." I receive comments that are downright mean. When I try to explain what's going on, I hear, "let's not talk about that right now."
And now I'm crying because I'm so upset! I always ask how other people are doing first before I even mention my problems. I may be having the worse day, wishing for death - and I'll still call to check on my friends! I try to be supportive and compassionate and listen, offer that shoulder. I just wish everyone would do the same for me. And I just can't understand how, if they know what it's like to suffer on a daily basis, they can so easily dismiss my own pain and tell me to suck it up.
CO_Mel2010-03-19 12:11:05Mel, we know you are an amazing person! You always try to look on the bright side and are always ready to laugh at yourself. You are also very caring and compassionate. You don't need to try to defend yourself here girl.. we LOVE you!
I think that Linn's comments were really more hypothetical than actually directed at you. You have every right to be upset. There is a huge difference between "Can I get you an advil?" and "Gees, just take an advil already". You were there, so I trust your judgement as to whether the person in question was trying to help or being dismissive. You strike me as the sort of person who would react kindly to kindness, no matter how lame it might be.
My mother and I speak very little these days. When she does speak to me, we never discuss my illness or how I'm doing. When I told her that I had been diagnosed with RA she told me that was impossible as there was no RA in our family. I reminded her that I know very little about my father or his side of the family (they could ALL have RA for all I know). She rolled her eyes and said "whatever". Then she told me I should be thankful I don't have a really horrible disease, like lupus. That was the sum total of the support I received. I don't know why she couldn't be sympathetic...although I suspect it has something to do with her long history of self-centeredness. I can't imagine having my child come to me with news that they have been diagnosed with an illness, any illness, and telling them to be thankful its not a different illness. So, as a result, we no longer have much of a relationship.
I guess what I am getting at is that you can't change people. You really do have to accept their limitations. Your relative is compassionally retarded and I'm sure it effects her life and her realtionships in a negative way. (For instance, she is missing out on getting to know how wonderful you are!) All you can do is protect yourself and avoid, avoid, avoid!
Here's a big hug for you girl
I wasn't having a bad day. I have an annoying tendancy to always be going...yeah, but what if they didn't mean it that way? Maybe they meant this, or maybe that.... Maybe appropriate sometimes, but certainly not regarding a group of people I don't know and a situation I wasn't present for.
Here's a big hug for you too Linn We can never fully understand someone else's pain. It's hurtfull when we say something we shouldn't or in a way that it hurts someone.
I had a friend who alway complained, alway sick. Run the roads and did what she wanted, I got down with RA to the point I couldn't walk or tear bread apart, open a door, helpless, but she was still the one to pity. She would come and help me and bring food, all the time complaining.
years later she went to hospital, I went to see her, she was running around complaining about everything. She told me, They said I could go home tomorrow, but i'm not leaving unless I feel better then I do now. I didn't say anything, but it was going thur my head. Nothing wrong with you. She didn't come home the next morning, she died, about 4am....sad, we don't think before we talk or type.
Too bad we can't carry a club around and hit people, the same place, we are hurting so they would have some idea how it feel.
Thanks Mel for starting this, I understand what your saying. been there so many times.
Mel (((HUGS))) I know exactly how you feel and I am glad you came here rather than retort to the "inconsiderates" ....
Leila... RA IS like Lupus.... I am sorry your mom's comments deteriorated your relationship with her... my RA deteriorated my relationship with my sister... It's like I have Leprosy to her.
I don't know which is worse... the inconsiderates or the fearful lack of understanding...
oh well.. they both lose.
Feel free to vent to me any time... any place.... any how....
I am a great listener (that goes for all of you)
Oh thanks Bab. It's ok, our relationship has always been rocky. My mom got pregnant with me at age 17 and got married as a result. She had been a promising synchronized swimmer, but had to stop to become a wife and mother. Her life has been very difficult and she spends a lot of time dreaming about what might have been. She has told me numerous times that she gave it all up for me. So there's always been an underlying resentment. How she handled the news of my diagnoses didn't ruin our relationship... it was just the last straw.
I am VERY fortunate to have wonderful in-laws and friends... Not to mention my spectacular, brilliant, gorgeous AI friends!!! Here's a one liner that describes the whole thing: YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!
[QUOTE=GG]Here's a one liner that describes the whole thing: YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!
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that's one of my favorites... right along side:
You can't have a rational discussion with irrational people
Don't get into a battle of the wits with an unarmed person.......this is one of my favorites and I think says it all about the individuals you've been discussing.
I've never found a graceful way of handling people who insist that osteoarthritis in their thumb is the same as rheumatoid arthritis. I usually end up trying to educate them. Once I told a coworker that arthitis in their finger wasn't going to kill them but rheumatoid arthritis could kill me. That ended the conversation.
This hasn't happened in a long time and at this stage of the disease I don't think I'd be as forgiving as I've been in the past. I just don't have it in me any longer. Lindy
Waddie...no apology necessary. I didn't think you were being rude, I thought you were sticking up for your friend. But thanks anyway.
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Don't get into a battle of the wits with an unarmed person.......this is one of my favorites and I think says it all about the individuals you've been discussing.
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