Fight arthritis just need 3 basics:
1. Effective herbs to ease pain;
2. Effective herbs and foods to fight winning battles during attack, to "immobalize" and "calm" attacking bad cells and "change" them into toxic wastes and gases.
3. Toxic wastes and gases can be gradually disposed as urines, stools, farts and belches.
There will be a series of phenomenal actions in the body like continuous and vigorous flow of blood in the veins of affected joints. These process will be repeated until the blockages have been cleared. By this action, it causes affected joints to twitch continuously and repeatedly. The twitching is natural, soothing, comfortable and thrilling.
If the disease is at one commands and controls, I really do not need "those".
A real find is a true companion in ones life no compromise!
What?Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. . . Sorry I'm lost with this post, What? HUH?????????????This is a spammer trying to sell his herbs as the great cure-all for arthiritis. We have been harrassed by him before. The best thing to do is just ignore him.Hillhoney, you live in the world of bad ideas and thinkings and cannot solve your always limpping arthritis problem like the icon, you shouldn't discredit other. REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH ARTHRITIS!
I write my experiences with arthritis. Herbs are found in forest belong to nature. You are too smart to write "as the great cure-all for arthritis".
You do not have these experience don't discredit because this is far TOO TOO BIG for you to know instantly. YOU NEED TO BELIEVE, LEARN, FIND, EXPERIENCE AND BENEFIT FROM YOUR SEARCH.
It was safe to go back to the water...is mind's interpretation and belief.
I hope you don't go when the water recede because like your limpping icon it is hardly you can reach the shore when the surge totally makes you hopeless in life.
I don't mean to offend you....but I have a really hard time understanding you. Considering you are from Singapore it could be a launguage barrier.
Nothing you say ever makes sense to me. It's not that I'm totally against herbs or natural treatments. Although this isn't the road I've decided to take I do realize others are free to choose those things. I personally encourage everyone to find what works best for them.
I just find it difficult to understand what you are trying to convey. Your post come off as slightly hostal toward a group that doesn't seem very welcoming of your ideas. Why even bother posting here?
I could be wrong....but I've seen very little support for your opinions since you first joined this site to post your message in Febuary; yet you continue to come here and post what seem to me to be rather weird messages that we don't quite get.
If I'm wrong someone please correct me.
Lovie,
I agree. The messages don't make sense and I've communicated with a lot of people who don't speak English well and still understood their point.
Also, nothing of real help is being offered here but an opinion that most of us do not agree with. And then, you are replied rudely to this.
From this point on, I suggest we do follow Hillhoney's advice and not show any response.
Language barrier or not, he is insulting all of us.
Lovie in reply to your post, I like to point out it is not the language barrier but the level of your thinking to perceive. When an idea or statement that is beyond your understanding it makes no sense to you because it is more superior and complex concept to your mind.
Where I come from does not make any great difference but what is more important is the level one thinks. Even simple spelling like "language" is being inplaced by your "launguage" that I can not find in any dictionary.
Why are you so upset when I post my real experiences of ease pain, "neutralize" pain, "calm" bad cells attack and dispose toxic wastes and gases? These are ways I have been fighting the disease without using drugs. At least I post how I go about to improve quality of life and promote less suffering.
As an arthritic can you post how you fight the disease? I will like to know how good your English to describe your disease fighting experiences.
I do stand corrected Mr. Kokako...you are far more superior than simple minded....poor spelling little me.
I fight this disease with lots modern medicine with fairly good success. It's not the methods you speak of that I protest....it's the manner in which you speak of them.
With your good English describe how you fight this disease during attack not just a general statement - "with lots modern medicine with fairly good success". At least I can describe a little more to fight the disease in real life in suffering with what you described as "language barrier".
The manner is to post a fact of life as a sufferer. You reckon with others that only those experiences and treatments are correct, all else are fraud, incorrect and misleading. If one has no such experiences it is "beyond one's perception" so move on do not criticise and having bad ideas. There are arthritics who pick up the cue, learn, believe, do and benefit from them. These mean better quality of life, elevate energy level, less suffering and healthier living with no drugs.
The posting is not intended for those who like to create troubles and thow mud unneccessarily to discredit.
Deanna, from your post "communicate with alot of people who don't speak English", I like to figure out what are you insinuating. You are very educated in English or a racist?
[QUOTE=kokako88]With your good English describe how you fight this disease during attack not just a general statement - "with lots modern medicine with fairly good success". At least I can describe a little more to fight the disease in real life in suffering with what you described as "language barrier".
The manner is to post a fact of life as a sufferer. You reckon with others that only those experiences and treatments are correct, all else are fraud, incorrect and misleading. If one has no such experiences it is "beyond one's perception" so move on do not criticise and having bad ideas. There are arthritics who pick up the cue, learn, believe, do and benefit from them. These mean better quality of life, elevate energy level, less suffering and healthier living with no drugs.
The posting is not intended for those who like to create troubles and thow mud unneccessarily to discredit.
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Why do you feel that insulting people who do not agree with your poorly laid out arguments is the best way to go about things. Everyone has different experiences at different levels. The peo-ple on this forum all speak from their experiences, and I for one am interested to see what they have to say. You should never berate someone for doing this.The treat arthritis and deal with it in many different ways. No one method is best or more effective, making your claims seem like a very sweeping and unfounded statement. I suggest if you do not like your views being questioned you should refrain from posting them.
It makes me extremely angry to see people who suffer with this illness attacked by someone who clearly cannot appreciate different situations.
And if you would like to discuss the merits of use of the English language on this forum then I would be amused to read them as I'm sure my English degree more than qualifies me to judge.
I suggest no one takes the time to respond to this guy. It just eggs him on and responding to him in any way is just making us stoop to his level. He is purposely antagonising us to get a response. If we don't he wouldn't have anything to say.
Louisa, let me reply to your post. It is a natural reaction of defence against barrages from illogical accusations. Why get angry as I merely catch the ball and throw back to the culprit.
Your English degree to hand on the wall to weigh down others. It reflects the manners you think and express that I think you lack the level of perception and understanding. Reflect your post before making statement.
Ouchy, I hope no one posts to discriminate. Peace, don't start war!
I'm sorry guys, but you gotta admit this is entertaining! Is anyone out there old enough to remember the comedian Norm Crosby, who used to "get his mix all talked up"? And you know we all need some good laughs. If he's determined to put it out there, we can have fun with it! I didn't want to say so, but I'm kinda getting a good laugh out of all this!
You throw stones with an ignorant mind and have a rage that I find very unkind. You obviously do not care for one person on this forum to say the insulting comments that you have.
Somewhere in your brain, you think you have the answer for all our problems and that we are too narrowminded to appreciate them.
But all you have spoken with is generalizations and insults on top of that. If you are going to argue a point, at least have a point to make. The only point you have expressed is that you believe in alternative methods. Yet you have even mentioned one.
This leads me to suspect that either you don't have a clear answer or you just want to spout an opinion.
I have many friends from across the world. And they have never shown the ill manners that you have already shown on this board. So, I have to assume that this your own personal character flaw.
People come to this board for genuine help and support.
What is your purpose?
Deanna, the accusation comes from "you". When I profile the writer in the latest post and counted "you" has been used 13 times and "your" many times. It goes to show a person like to point finger at other.
The manner and behavior is like a piranha. The character is self centred to project as friendly to the world in fact it is a wolf hiding in a sheep skin.
The post I made earlier is a solution to arthritis, has invited a spool of piranhas, no sentiment but discrimination. Please post the solution/s in the fight of arthritis as a geniune support to this board. I have not seen only generalizations, discriminations, insultations and bullying attitudes.
Hilloney, a culprit that started the ball rolling and created a battling arena and enjoy the "fun". What a cunning comedian!OK Kokako88.... I will try anything once. Did I just write that???
Please list the exact herbs and foods that you ingest that ease your pain and release your toxins due to Rheumatoid Arthritis. I live in Chicago and have acess to all of the Chinese herbs. I will not purchase them from you but I will try it and let you ALL know how I feel in 2 months. Deal????
Wow Gena, sounds like an offer he can't refuse!Yes, Kokako88,
Please tell us! Please give us a list of the herbs and food you use and how you use them. I too am willing to try anything once. If you have had such success - then maybe one of us will have success too.
I personally am not opposed to alternative medicine. I do believe that herbs can alleviate many things from our bodies. With that being said;
http://www.geocities.com/kokako88/mygout.html
This is the link to his website.
Dude...what a lonely, small, little world you must live in. To come back here time and time again, where obviously no one values your opinion except you. Why do you come here other than to irritate real people with real illnesses? I, myself don't think you are coming here to help anyone. We are all adults here, capable of making up our own minds as to what works best for us.It is howling for no obvious reason. Then there is this Terinski posted "a native translating to English!" This person posted like an English teacher about grammer and "structure of posts.....". Save it for yourself in construction of sentences. I have this level to read and write in reply to your post. If I write my native language I don't think you can understand. So no native here and there because you do not even understand yourself about the word "native" as I do believe you live in cave. "Not one of here is simple minded" maybe, but "complicated minded" I presume. Adults do not implicate, discredit, posting such word as "spammer" just because the method of treatment differs.
The natural method of treatment has been posted from my experiences and do not need your verification nor subject to discrimantion, abuses and insults. In fact, reflect among yourself and don't behave like immatured children as the post does not threaten your belief in treatment. If you people do not believe skip it. Why in all cases made such a fuss! What a unreasonable, naughty children having no respect for others.
My belief stays, the method is very....effective and it is a fact. It does not matter you like it or not. I am not here to please you all, get this straight.
There is a saying " a begger cannot be a chooser". Like to know secret formula others who ask politely maybe I can consider, not you all piranhas!! As for my attackers I am not obliged to depart the formula.
I am so upset Kokako...I asked nicely and you still didn't give me the secret formula. Why won't you tell me the secret to your sucess. Don't you really want to help others???
Post the herbs and supplements and I will go down to Chinatown tomorrow and purchase them.
I'm new here (since last night). This happens to be the second post I've read. All I can say is...wow! I haven't come accross a post/thread such as this before.
BOY OH BOY!!! I haven't been around for awhile and they just let anyone in here again!!
ps I went to your website and all that is posted is about the herbs is as to how it has helped you deal with gout, NOWHERE does it state anything about you having arthritis. Please explain as to why you didn't post as to how it has helped "your arthritis" on your website. meme, another smart person, may I ask you is gout a type of arthritis? Have you read all the posts and reflected how hostile and unreasonable all these people are? I am merely throwing the bouncing balls to them for being rude, disrespectful as unthinkable adults. Fiona, English is your mother tongue but the level of your thinking is as you described, you fitted nicely like a coconut or coconut is a maron which ever situation you are in
Please note request is given not demanded - a basic civic principle. Why are people replying to him????? It makes sense to ignore him then you won't get into any dialogue whatsoever with him. Kokako88: On page 3 I asked nicely and so did "Gena" for a list of the herbs. Neither one of us acted rude or said anything bad. Why won't you tell us? Please? We are willing to try them. Well, hope you let us know. Thanks. f**k OFF!!!!!! return to you, Terinski, you are an uncultured English teacher - imagine who can respect and believe this self designated teacher. You sound more like a ruffain. You don't tell me, you post to the board for people to judge. So you like to be superior "you don't know me anymore than I know you" as what you posted but I have to assess and judge. An uncultured person of ruffian's characteristics can't think straight but like to self-assumed. How can you teach English. It is best for me to teach you. Trixie66, the main herb is scare Wild Lingzhi, you can source it from Tibet. Wild Lingzhi has different nutritional value from cultivated ones. It costs many time more. It cost is like wild Truffle known to the Frenchmen. Remember cultivated ones are not effective or not so effective. With this wild lingzhi boil and drink three times a day. This is first part of treatment. Drink it for a couple of months the condition will improve. Hi ... Kokoman, you may have something helpful to relate to the group; yet, you would rather fight. Stop hurling arrows and get on with your info. about natural healing. You are spending all of your time rolling around in the muddy brawl. Get out of the mud and show some respect for yourself and for everyone here. A good teacher graciously introduces a topic or a new way of thinking without insulting people. A good teacher has a goal of telling his/her own truths without upsetting the ones he/she is trying to help. A good teacher realizes he/she is teaching a viewpoint, not "the viewpoint." A good teacher truly wants to understand the plights of those he/she is dealing with, as this is most helpful in learning how to reach each individual in a gentle and a polite manner. A good teacher does not designate himsel/herself as a "superior thinker," nor would he/she tell others they have a problem because of their lower level of thinking. Many have graciously invited you to list your herbal remedies. You have mentioned one. Is that all you had wanted to mention? Did you come here to share something helpful? Or did you come here to spout off? Get on with your teaching, if that is why you are here. Do so with deep compassionate and with some "class." Otherwise, I cordially invite you to leave. Thus far, you have only spouted your toxins all over this board. Show us some health of mind and stability of character in the manner in which you present yourself. Do not ever enter into another person's, or a group's sacred places with a satchel full of contempt, vomiting your anger, your toxins all over the place. You will then be tossed out the front door by the seat of your pants. This is a sacred place for us. It is a place to share and to heal. Insults and the act belittling others, for any reason, does not belong here. Get to your point in a healthy manner...or move on out into another stop in cyberspace. You either have something healthy to share, in a healthy manner...or you do not. If so...get on with it. If not, move on! I hope, one day, your bitterness will recede enough to recognize and to accept a blessing! Actually...I hope you will learn allow yourself to experience many blessings! Speaking of herbs...you know and I know...you are "running way too hot." Neutralize and equalize yourself. Your words remind me of a car radiator overheating. If you know Chinese herbs, you know what I am referring to and you will also recognize you are not well right now, you have lost your equilibrium! Please grant yourself the time to find it.
As I'd written above, blessings!
You like to pressure for the listing of other herbs and I just not ready to tell you. Is that wrong or you like to wag your poisonous tongue. You are not so Hopeful and God knows how to punish sharp tongue with hidden motive! I see where Ko was getting bored again, hey....lots of posts for the forum, good for you. Geesh, I haven't been on for awhile and when I do logon, look who is back. Ok kokako88, In America, that is where I was born and raised, we have a decorum of manner inwhich we speak to eachother.Those that do not adhere to this social rule and moral are typically classified as being ignorant,intellectually challenged, defiant or otherwise of no interest to a known group. You enjoy arguing and a lot of people do. Have you read or listened to the news lately, there is war among the planet Earth. Innocent children and adults are being killed each and every day around our globe and you are arguing over a hebal treatment. I Think there is much more to be concerned about rather than defending a treatment which we as people can decide and choose to use or not choose to use. Now concerning your sentence structure............ ""In fact, reflect among yourself and don't behave like immatured children as the post does not threaten your belief in treatment. If you people do not believe skip it. Why in all cases made such a fuss! What a unreasonable, naughty children having no respect for others."" You have so many mistakes in this paragraph that I thought you had better have it checked out by grammar check. This is darned hard to read Ko! Not only is it not comprehensible it is just plain hard to try and figure out your rant. Hmmm maybe it isn't a rant, maybe it is just being rude and insulting....can't really understand it is all I know. Now see, you even got me to answer, I am not sure if that makes you brilliant or just plain annoying. AN IMPORTANT NOTE TO ALL ON THIS SITE: Kokopuffs is not just a little annoying to people... he is also more than that. He is full of toxins and rage...he lands here to try to poison our board...he does not mean well at all...doesn't even realize that, truly, nobody wants the herb that has made his mind confused and mad. Who, in their right mind , would "carry on" like an evil snake within our "sacred space?" He is not here to heal or to assist in healing. He is here to interrupt healing, to spew poison, to harm any of the energy of safety and healing one might otherwise experience here. Kokopuffs is the sickest of sick ...in mind, heart and soul. He is not worth spending time on... he fully intends to drag you down. You will never reach a warm heart or a human soul by trying to reach this hollow-souled, possessed, evil forked-tongued beast. I do not make a statement like that very often, nor lightly; yet, I do know ill-intention, darkness and serious evil when I see it. He did not think I would expose him, as I am relatively new to the board. He'd told me everyone would think I was "crazy" if I'd called him out for who he really is. He knew that I know what he is up to. Thus, the "threat" to me regarding identifying him and his intentions. I'll take the chance. Better to give som warnings. I am blessed to have been very well trained in the realities of spiritual warfare. I also have been given spiritual gifts . (We all have been given spiritual gifts.) One of the gifts given to me by our Heavenly Father is one called, "discernment." I'd never thought I'd have to use this knowledge on a health "board" on the internet; yet, when I stop and think about it...why not? This is one of the types of boards where people are vulnerable. I have contacted my fellow ministers and we have read over the words of this "being." In all seriousness, many of us specializing in spiritual warfare fully recognize this "being" as one seriously evil. We are located around the world. We have prayed through a part of the night that each person here will be entirely shielded by God, will not be adversely affected by this "entity" and will come to recognize him for who he is. Please disengage with this entity. I write this not to, nor for, the beast. I write this to and for my friends in search of healing. I'd strongly encourage you, out of concern for your health and welfare, to disengage entirely from this ill-intended, souless vessel of pathetic, yet potentially dangerous, evil-spirited poison. Some have taken care to see that everyone can leave this space and meet up at another address. I would urge everyone to rebuke this life-leaching dark "persona" who has made himself known to the board. You have been invited to join "Crunchy" and "Deanna" at: www.vf11.com/rasushi I believe they can and will "screen out" the ill-intended there. If I have made an error in the site address, it is listed on the board by them! Blessings... Keep it up continue to write a story book. My message is crystal clear herbs, natural foods can do so much!!! Skip on, get out if you don't like the idea and method. Is the idea or statement threatening your belief? Why all the irrelevant, illogical contributions to the post. What so Big deal like saying exposing? What to expose. Herbs are herbs, natural foods are natural foods what to expose. What really need to expose is your sharp tongue wagging!!!!! This is a natural road to see sunlight not sharp tongue wagging. Not too Hopeful because sharp tongue makes middle east war get worse and more human sufferings. I do not fear threat nor nos. of piranhas that direct their attacks on personal level. What a childish attitude and act of threat. In the positive side I have been writing about natural treatment why MUST BE SUBJECTED TO ALL THESE CHILDISH NONSENSES. CAN'T YOU BEHAVE. I HAVE BEEN REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU HAVE YOUR CONVICTIONS AND BELIEFS BUT DON'T FIND FAULT AND CREATE TROUBLE. ms_read, "so many mistakes" in sentences but there is no mistake in natural treatment for arthritis that is what matter most!!!! I don't need you to correct mistakes - another smart person. You don't need correcting; but you sure don't mind correcting others do you? I for one am growing rather tired of this debate. I'll admit at first it was kind of like a train wreck; you can't help but look. But now; it's just getting stupid. Kokako will just continue spouting his hatred towards us so it is better to just ignore him folks. Let's just carry on and end this nonsense. Kokako will not back down because he thinks he is always right, so let him live in his little dreamworld and we will carry on in the real world. Peace to all xoxoxo meme
To now&then, it is right to cut it out long time ago. I believe all of you have started all these nonsenses out of jealousy, envy, opposing attitute to condemn (not conform to your belief and treatment) and rejecting others as fraud. No need to create trouble you all follow your treatments and beliefs. For all the world WHY STARTED ALL THESE STUPID NONSENSES TO ME WHO DIFFERS IN TREATMENT. A FACT WILL ALWAYS STAY! Whenever, I make a statement that I do not use drugs in my treatment, THERE IS WAR!!!!!! DOES THIS ACTION INSULT ALL YOUR INTELLIGENCES. ANYONE HAS DIFFERENT TREATMENT FROM ALL OF YOU IS A FRAUD, NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, BLURR........ THE RESULT, THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHAT I HAVE BENEFITED TREASURE MOST. YOUR MISSILES AND BOMBS CANNOT DESTROY THE REALITY OF LIFE!!!! YOU HAVE WELL MADE ROAD OF TREATMENT TO FOLLOW WHY LOOK AT OTHER PATH AND START THESE NONSENSES. I CHOOSE THE NATURAL PATH SO THAT I CAN CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN TOP TO SEE SUNLIGHT. I HAVE A PARAMOUNT VIEW ABOUT THE ARTHRITIS. THERE IS NO CONFLICT. WHY IN THE WORLD THERE ARE MISSILES AND BOMBS ATTACKING AND TRYING TO DESTROY MY IDEA OF LIVING IN PEACEFUL WORLD AND ENJOY LESS SUFFERINGS! THEN THERE IS GREAT ENGLISH TEACHERS SHOWING SUCH SUPERIORITY AND REGARDING OTHERS AS "NATIVES" WITHOUT KNOWING HIS/HER JUST COMING OUT OF CAVE NOT TOO LONG AGO. BY KNOWING ENGLISH DOES NOT MEASURE YOUR INTELLIGENT LEVEL. THIS WAR STARTS AT PERSONAL LEVEL.
Such herbs are wonderful and very effective to suppress and have ability to control the disease movement and progression during flares. Nature has a its own way - no compromise.
Fiona, can I have some tasty soup?
Terinski, you posted you are nice person. How can it be your tone sounded disparity, such as "native". Tracing back to history probably you come from the cave not too long ago. Even you can "see" English is not my mother tongue, what is the difference? From my side I can "see" you are probably thinking highly of yourself as a racist! It reflects the level of your thinking!!
This is one thing I do not like about this forum, not being able to have the option to put a poster on ignore (not that we've needed it lately) or post a complaint to a moderator.
Doesn't anyone have the authority to delete this? "Good Grief" as Charlie Brown would say.
Let's all act like the nice ladies that we are and ignore this mad man.
Luv
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