Pain can be easily tackled and controlled.
I brew herbs (wild lingzhi formula) for 2-3 hrs. I take 3 times a day - morning, day and night. The result NO PAIN but much gases have been continuously disposing. These also help to release vowels and urinations. The detoxing process help to control pain and reduce swells if any.
I have no fear and know the positive way to "tame" and control the disease. This is what I term as "DO IT RIGHT"!
VOWLES. I'm so sorry. I had to.I bet you are one stinky person to live with
Power to beef and wild lingzhi formula!!! Are we treating RA or Gout??
It is good GenaRogers for you to reproduce the post. It emphasizes the power of Wild Lingzhi one of the fungi.
Recently a Wild White Truffle, a fungus valued for it aromatic taste, was sold for a price of US0,000!
In my opinion, the arthritis' disease gout/RA is Dynamics. A Gout sufferer may also have RA, Psoriasis, Hypertension, kidney problem etc.. I believe your RA is STATIC and I presume according to medical science you also believe there is NO CURE!
My view and experience differ from yours. It is that simple because you travel in a super highway but I walk in a natural path.
KoKaKo88,
While I believe there is truth in your message and it is great that you share your experience. To be a true master of the natural path is also to master your thoughts and emotions.
Your message would be better received if the reader did not preceive the ego and pushing of beliefs upon another that has chosen a different pathway.
Do it right or wrong is not for you to decide.
May you become the master of your own ego.
Have a Blessed Day,
LuAnn
stemcell4me please reflect your "pushing" messages not mine. What "I" term.... How you think and interpret is not my concern but accusation is wrong.
To GenaRogers, Wild Linghi is a herb that I treat gout/RA. Even herb to treat Gout a form of arthritis is relevant. If your sweeping message is to pinpoint irrelevant disease, then I have to point out methotrexate, also a cancer drug to treat RA. Are you saying those who taking methotrexate RA also suffer from cancer? Are these diseases relevant?
Katie...can you make another one except instead of saying poof...put in "A-E-I-O-U"? Please....do it for me!LMAO. I will try, but only for you. hahahahayay! I like the art...how do you get it to post here? I cant even load my own avatar since the board crashed in june.
Putting the right perspective is the correct statement. Urgliness, naegative and insanity is your perception, Hillhoney.
I post messages with rainbow colours, positive, fresh hope, pain free, free from punitive arthritis and no fear. I have unlocked the doors of suffering. What and how the group's think and behave may lead to its reflection.
Why are you not telling more about yourself, Hillhoney to begin with?
Kokako88: {{How you think and interpret is not my concern but accusation is wrong.- your statement}}
Crunchy, just for you.
RELEASE THE VOWELS LITTLE COW!!!!
I mean this in a good way, Katie, you are not right!watchingwolf I always take care of myself otherwise I would not post the bright side of life.
Messages are encouraging for persons to look at positive natural approach and to gradually attain better QOL.
Any unscrupulous thinking and interpretation to continuously obstruct good intention should really take care. It is rubber ball that bounces back, a natural distribution. watchingwolf take care.
ariscolwell, the little cow having much problems - hard stools, dark stools and no stool such irregular habits no wonder the picture of little cow looks so helpless and sick.
Oh too many complains about pains, swellings, restricted movements, so restless, tired etc.. All I can say is poor pitiful little cow!
Katie.....thankyou for the cows....they have brought me a smile this morning. Which I greatly needed!!!As I said in my first post, I agree with what you have accomplished for yourself. (I am neutral in this post).
You have complete freedom to express yourself but limited ability to control the responses of your thread. Maybe the responses are trying to tell you something, like try a different direction of expression.
The continued debate only exposes the lower self.
"Doitright" Just curious, what does that mean to you?????
Peace,
LuAnn
Kokako88: {{Any unscrupulous thinking and interpretation to continuously obstruct good intention should really take care. It is rubber ball that bounces back.}}watchingwolf, my messages are my experiences and are intended for others who are willing to take on natural foods to improve healthy lifestyles and elevate energy levels to deal with this dreadful disease, arthritis. By so doing, the severity of disease can be gradually reversed, drugs are no longer required and there is a significant improvement of QOL.
I have learned from a friend these words "Positive Emotion". He explained that positive emotion is to help directly or indirectly those who are suffering/distress to release all the negative effects and regain positive results. It is disheartening to read the sufferings and the drugs side effects (that I have had experienced) messages in the forum.
My messages are not to invite agreement or disagreement in the audience. They are facts of my life and the information is awareness and lifetime experiences to learn and work to recover from the disease. If anyone benefits and regain the healthiness, I feel happy and is a plus in good deed.
Now I realise why I keep coming back despite much bombardments and discriminations from a group of "drugs faithful" gang. All my messages differ from their "stronghold" belief and term others as frauds.
Hey! Now! I say dark, hard, cow patties are the best...
to watch someone else eat for .
During my many visits to various practitioners while being in "denial", I had many opportunities to visit with people who tried to help themselves the "natural way" vs the "prescribed way".
Your experience, knowledge and generalization that there is NO "natural way" to treat RA or its symptoms is your belief and view.
There are thousand of herbs perhaps ascribe to arthritis treatment but only appropriate herbs and herbal formula works effectively. Yes I want to help the surfering and well as aiming to be a multi millionaire. The most difficult hurdle is the concept being dismiss too quickly as it is normal not to accept what is not in the medical dorm.
To approach big pharmacaetical cos. is a difficult process. Before any constructive result is materialized, perhap the formula is being analiysed, robbed, copied and patented. I have in the past years wrote to a few arthritis organisations but to no avail. It is a spider web kind of industry. Monetary power, conection, track records of industry can only in the circle. As such others can only in the secondary industry of supplements. This the what the society is all about.
KOKAKO - FOR THOSE OF US IN MAJOR PAIN THAT HAVE TRIED MANY ALTERNATIVE TREATMENTS INCLUDING THE ONES YOU SUGGEST. YOU CAUSE PAIN. YOU ARE NOT KIND, YOUR EGO HAS TAKEN YOUR COMPASSION. YOU ARE NOT HELPING ANYONE EXCEPT STROKING YOUR OWN EGO. WHEN YOU LET GO OF ALL THAT EGO, YOU WILL TRULY HEAL.
Katie-Those were "vowels from the bowels" Thanks...it's a purty moo cow.If you cannot overcome pain and suffering examine yourself, your intakes and make rectification, don't get angry, make ridiculous remarks, jeolous because the more you abuse others, the disease can get even with you.
For those who choose natural foods and eat well to improve energy level to reduce pain and suffering, indirectly I also increase my energy level and disease will not attack "happy and healthy" cells. Disease likes to attack "angry" cells
On the contrary, I have no fear of the disease, no pain, no suffering, better QOL, confidence, positive direction, no expression of anger, no complain because I like to convey a positive message "do it right" and "do it naturally".
Within a round circle, no matter what one does and tries there is no way out. Once one is outside a round circle, one looks at different perspective.
"Within a round circle, no matter what one does and tries there is no way out. Once one is outside a round circle, one looks at different perspective."
With your head in your own ass, no matter what you do or try, there is no way out. Once your head is OUT of your ass, you have a different perspective.
Katie But what exactly is the competition here???
Right KoKoNuts? :)
Crunchy - I have no idea. I'm just having fun. Haha
I believe the game is called One Upmanship!arriscolwell, very funny, coconut head in your ass, I too having fun no wonder you cry pain in your ass HA, HA, HA.
Such a deformed creature, YAK! TORA! TORA! TORA! Next round the disease is going to bomb your ass.
Whoa there. Not nice Kokako. Normally I do ignore your posts because of your egotistical way of getting your message across. No one person here is better than the other nor is one treatment better than another. It all depends on what works for the individual. If doing it your way works for you and you want to share it with other people, do so in an informative way. Not in a way that makes people feel inferior for choosing a method of treatment that differs from yours. I feel that is what really bothers people here. So, in turn, people will try to make you feel as you have made them feel. And I see that someone has finally succeeding in that endeavor.
Many people here supplement traditional medicine with herbal medicine. However, they do not shove that down our throats with saying that their way is the only way and the right way and make us feel inferior regarding our own personal choices. Some of them are even afraid to speak up on the subject for fear they will be attacked as you are. You have taken something that could possibly help someone and almost destroyed it with your actions and words. Who is going to want to follow the recommendation of someone that threatens and wishes ill will on someone? That is not in any way helpful to anyone. In the end, you trying to be helpful has turned into a hinderance.
No one here has threatened you with any ill will. They have poked fun at you because of your actions and the words that you chose. You know where Katie got the idea to post that picture? From me. Because of something I said regarding you. I didn't wish you ill will with what I said. I just felt that you have cranial rectal syndrome regarding your words and actions. I just simply kept the flaming away from the board because it doesn't belong here. If you feel the need to wish ill will upon someone you wish it upon me and not her. An apology is in order here from you to her. Threatening and wishing someone sick is just wrong and shows a a very small minded person on the inside. Not that I was all that right in saying what I did because I wasn't. But I didn't threaten you or wish sickness upon you. Karma is a b*tch and can tend to be a very ugly one at that.
Oh yes, one other thing. the "creature" in that picture is not deformed. He is quite flexible. Try to see the good side of things for once. I wish I could be that flexible. Even in my days that I did play sports.
A kokako is a very pretty blue colored bird that is native to New Zealand. Their song can be heard across the forest. Can yours?
I only heard crows calling in distress not birds singing soothing songs. Crows have ill feelings and bad intentions and they like to "poke" funs!
This is a world of equality. In my opinion I come to know for those arthritics harbour angry and hatred cells in their bodies often have ill feelings and like to "poke" funs on others usually excite the disease to wage war on them. The disease also knows how to "poke" funs and cause such unforgetable pain, swell and restricted movements to belittle them. I belief this is a kind of disturbed state of equilibrium in the body system for those ill intended persons. Only one can help in his healing.
Kokako: Your quote, "I only heard crows calling in distress not birds singing soothing songs. Crows have ill feelings and bad intentions and they like to "poke" funs!" - Thus, if you're a bird singing a soothing song then why are the birds (crows aren't the only birds that cry out in distress) you are singing to not soothed? Perhaps they regard you as a sheep in a wolf's clothing?KT
Do you suppose kokako is using other boards to promote herbal cures other than arthritis? This possibility sends shivers down my spine.!![QUOTE=watchingwolf]Do you suppose kokako is using other boards to promote herbal cures other than arthritis? This possibility sends shivers down my spine.!!
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I've seen him on the "eHealth" boards. He's also in a couple of Yahoo groups which discuss herbs.
So his thing is herbs...cool, whatever. Everyone's got a "thing" or two they like to talk about.
KT297, on the contrary, I feel dishearten, pitiful and can perceive the disease is at random causing pain, suffering and torturing the body and the soul. There is no happiness but fear, uncertainty, anger and hate. For some, their love ones may leave them for good.
Natural foods link to the body system and to scientific studies (cheese) and watchingwolf you should promote in other board to uplift your energy level.
Logiatrix, herbs give me new life, herbs relieve pain and suffering, herbs enable me to sleep well, herbs regulate the equilibrium in the body system, herbs kill germs and fight diseases, herbs heal chronic diseases, herbs are plants and gifts from God!
That is why I talk about herbs
Okay, kokako88.cheese, how about you go to website to look for the main herb i have posted many times! I do not have to prove to you. You learn and prove yourself. Kokako: There you go again telling people what they should do rather than guidance and encouragement.!!It's well established at this point in time, that no matter what any of us say or do, Kokonuts is going to keep on keepin' on. And we're going to keep on laughing. There is no changing someone's mind in a case like this. That goes for us too.
I posted back only because the whole thing made me laugh. And I like to laugh. Period. There was no other motive, than a simple chuckle. So get over it.
I thought we agreed long ago not to egg him on anymore? The last thing ANYONE with ANY kind of disease needs is to get worked up over something stupid. Guess what. This whole thread is stupid.
Koko - go play in traffic.
watchingwolf, there you go again. Each time I have to repeat over and over again. You are so good at picking faults and poking funs but refuse to search in the website and look up yourself.
If that is the case you find interesting please post your history, what drugs you take what are their effects, how are drugs doing for you, are you improving or deterioating? Why is that so? When you claim the drugs work well? Why are you being prescribed this and that drugs? Tell us more. The next time round I am going to ask you the same question again. Is that interesting?
pin cushion, you live in South Africa where natural remedies are way of life that does not mean all the herbs you know.
Even Dr Paul Cox, a Harvard PhD in rainforest biology travelled to Pacific Island and SE Asia's forests to study how plants could be used for medicinal purposes. Other scientists also have explored the forests to find plants. The world is vast, so knowing some herbs if not relevant you just cannot represent nor be a spokeperson.
Kokako: Am not about to discuss the specifics of what I have endured with RA & OA with you before relenting and seeking the services of the medical establishment for which overall I have very little faith. However, my experience with my doctors and my treatment plan has been very positive and has given me back my quality of life. No, I'll no never live like I'm twenty again, but living like forty is A-Okay with me. May your life change for the better in that you become a positive role model for others.watchingwolf, you have your opinion but don't get into personal. Pity yourself not others! You can draw any conclusion you like. I do not like to drag into endless exchange of words with you. I wish you well in your treatment & improved QOL as you have mentioned, so need to know more.
My messages are for those who are willing to receive.
arriscolwell, if you think you are clever and find joy to ridicule and laugh at others and knowing your whole thread is stupid, I wish you well. An Arthritic who has such "bad" cells in the body can soon know how the disease like to enjoy to attack and get even with you. In my experience, arthritis also fond of punishing heavily on such a person who has "bad" cells in the blood system. Perhaps the equilibrium of the system. Watch out you know best in your body! "kakoka". Your true knowledge is in the gift of double-talk."wolfwatching", your first sentence is passing an accusing & stupid remark and the question asked is egocentric.
This thread is now feeding on the emotions of the readers.
When you yield to this impetus and write more to poster it only expresses the anger and more substance feeds to the poster again.
This is a vicious circle of action, reaction and gradual intensification will continue.
This poster will not stop until all those that feed into his thread cease to do so.
All that tells me is that he wants an argument, thrives on it, cannot live without it. Can you imagine living that way? We can all see how narrowed minded he is, how uneducated he is.
RA is being used here and I do not like it as I know we true RAers don't either. THis person has not learned that not all meds work for all people.......copper bracelets don't work either.
I hope all those who celebrate Thanksgiving have had a peaceful, enjoyable day as we gave thanks for our forefathers and what we have.
I am just gonna focus on what works for me and what doesn't work for me and not be bothered with someone trying to sell something or diligently insist that their product or whatever is better. As for demeaning the character of our RAers, well lets just say that this group has been around the block a few times and we take care of our own. It is a shame that there are still big bullies.
Oh and Kokako...don't bother to smear what I have said, I will never read it cause I will not be bothering with this thread anymore.......I have better things to do with my time. ***geesh, I am sure I have said that to him before***
The whole problem is you do not accept natural foods don't talk nonsense, try to ridicule and create problems. This person has been on meds for over 20 years and knows what is all about and don't include irrelevant product you are selling like copper bracelets.So how 'bout them Mets?"wolfwatching" to answer disgusted and egocentric question/s there are conditions as follows:
1. arthritics must have taken drugs for over 20 years;
2. arthritics must have bedridden for over 3 months and not responded with drugs.
Otherwise they are not in the catogory/level of arthritics to ask such questions because they do not know the extreme pain and suffering.
*ahem* SO HOW 'BOUT THEM METS? I see a bunch of hypocritical hateful posts here by regulars. Ever hear of the saying "to each their own" ? That applies to everyone.Hi Dessy! I am really hesitant to jump into all this, but there is a therapy that claims remission and even sometimes cure for many RA patients. No, not herbs! It is a safe, fairly low-cost therapy that has been proven successful in NIH-sponsored clinical trials. If you are interested, check out either of these websites: www.roadback.org or www.rheumaticsupport*ahem* SO HOW 'BOUT THEM METS?