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Hi Guys,

I've been going to the chiropractor for the past couple weeks, a few times a week. He does it with physically adjusting me, popping & cracking, twisting, etc., not with that new technology stuff. if ya know what i mean, lol. I'm starting to wonder if i should have talked with my current RA doctor about it (my most recent one switched to an emergency doctor. My past one said it was ok though but then again that one also over dosed me.... Anyways, I've been extra painful & stiff lately. My neck gets sharp pains shooting through it multiple times a day. You know the kind that happen every once in a while when you turn your head to fast....thats what it feels like except it doesnt go away for quite a while & just comes & goes. I've had lost a semi-large amount of ROM for quite sometime in multiple joints including my back & neck so you can just imagine how it feels when he jerks me around. he SAID he would be able to help with things....i know he MEANS well. is it normal to get worse THEN better after a chiropractor?? i still have some appointments with him. but am unsure.

thanks guys!!!!
daddysgimpygirlI've never to been to a chiropractor.  I would definately discuss your current problems with your RD before going any further with chiropractic treatment.  Hello. Because I've always insisted on living like I was twenty until arthritis became a permanent part of my life my chiropractor of many years has put back together many many times.  (My physical therapist has been most helpful, too!)

1. No, it isn't uncommon to become rather stiff and sore after a treatment but it shouldn't last more than a couple of days and you definitely shouldn't feel worse or have more problems than when you went in.

2. What exactly do you mean by a few times a week? You're appointments should never be any closer than every four days and that's without the complication of arthritis.

3. Most chiropractors, including mine, now use a device called a responder to make needed adjustments. It isn't necessary to twist, turn and pull on the body.

Yes, I've gone in to have my neck realigned since arthritis became a part of my life. Had instant relief and nothing else.

Trust me, if you talk with your gp or rheumy they will advise you not to seek the help of a chiropractor. Incidentally, insurance companies recognize their value and are included in most insurance plans and by Medicare, etc. - Take Care -

thanks both of you!!

i see my RA doc on the 7th of december now.
the main thing that is worse than before i started seeing him a couple weeks ago is those pains in my neck. I see him ummm about every other day or sometimes every 3 days.

the device you mentioned is what a friend of mine was telling me about that hers uses. however mine doesnt even have that, he is more of a small business kinda thing.

im kinda anxious for my appointment to get here. it is a new RA doc as i mentioned before. im kinda bummed though, i loved my other one who switched to emergency dr!!

im glad the chiropractor helps you!! its great to have something that helps with the discomfort of things.

alright well i have an appointment early tomorrow so i better get off of here.

thanks again!!
daddysgimpygirl Hello. Don't know what country/state you're from but may I offer you some advice? 1. If you're in the U.S. you can contact your state medical board for a list of reputable chiropractors; 2. If you live in a metro area or near one you can contact the better business bureau or equivelant; and 3. Ask friends, relatives, or people you come into contact with frequently and feel you can trust for recommendations.  - Take Care - watchingwolf39042.3510532407If you feel worse after adjustments why are you continuing?  Usually that's a sign that you shouldn't be stressing your body with chiropractic treatments, and yes, it is a stress.  Soft tissue and gentle manipulation, not bone on bone adjustment should be the course for people with RA/PA/OA. Think about the damage that's done to your joints and soft tissue from RA.   Think about how the chiropractor manipulates and adjusts, and the stress that it's bearing on an already damaged and distressed joint.   It's sort of an adverse treatment.  I'd look for treatment that's more gentle to my body.  That's just my opinion based on being an operating room nurse.  Please take care and if you decide to continue with treatment ask the chiropractor to use a more gentle approach.    I never had pain after going to the chiropractor...but I didnt like having my neck adjusted, it just made me nervous. I did ask my doc about it and he said there was no problem with me going except he didnt recommend my having my neck adjusted because of the bulging disk in my c-spine. So, I guess my reservations were putting me on the right track. If you are having the problems as you described, you should see your doc before continueing with the chiropractor.

Please be careful with Chiropractic treatment! I see a wonderful Chirporactor who really helps me but I know my treatment is very different to the treatment he gives people without arthritis and I also know that some (so-called) chiropractors aren't as highly trained/qualified/knowlegable as mine and could do damage to fragile joints like ours! The right chiropractic can help enormusly and it can be tender at the time and for a while after but it shouldn't be worse! I am concerned by the symptoms you describe, one of the rare complications of chiropractic is stroke caused by interfering with the blood vessels that supply the brain, I think it's about the same risk as having your hair washed at the hair dresser but still a risk so get it checked out. I would always aske the Chiro if s/he has treated people with arthritis before and what s/he suggests and listen for her/him talking with knowlege about the disease and it's complications, they should know about it! My Chiro was very knowlegable but wanted to look up my meds etc before he started treatment.

Good luck

KT

 

IT's hard to know about chiropractic because a lot of doctors don't "believe" in it. I used to see a chiropractor regularly before I developed RA and it really helped (especially in my neck), but I stopped going because when I told him I had RA he said I had to find out what was causing it, like my diet and stuff. I took that to indicate he didn't know a lot about RA. I also read in "Plan to Win" to not let anyone ever adjust your joints.
As usual, the jury is still out on chiro.
Incidentally, I now have a memory foam matress and an ergonomic memory foam pillow and it's like I'm getting regular chiropractic! So yummy...
Thank you very much all of you!!

the question about continuing even though ive been feeling worse is a good one. makes me feel kinda dumb when ya say it like that. lol. i just figured it was normal.

i know he knows about jra/ra, however, i did get a chance to talk to one of my doctors, not my rheumatologist, but a doctor none-the-less. a little fyi-she has RA as well. she recommended me to one who uses the newer technology that you guys mentioned. this chiropractor she recommended does get really annoying though, my family used to go to him. he thinks he can cure anything & everything!! ADHD, the common cold, arthritis, the list goes on & on. the chiropractor im seeing now was recommended from family & friends, everyone says he is great!! they are all relatively health problem free though. i guess you could say i like to think i am as well. lol. im wasnt sure if i was just having an extra bad couple weeks or what, as im sure you guys know, they do happen. but im thinking you guys are deffinately right in that i should talk with my rheumy before doing anything else. although, i totally forgot to mention one other reason i was in seeing the chiropractor....i have a curved spine. not sure if that makes a difference or not though.

your reply's are all really informative!! thanks again for each & every one of them!!

take care & happy thanksgiving!!
daddysgimpygirl

Going to a Chiropractor was thevery best treatment I could have done. Initially I was reluctant but I could see the relief my sister felt so I did go in adn I am hear to tell you it was the difference between night and day for me.

Mine uses the device called the responder or whatever it is and he pops all my pieces back into place. YEs it takes time, and yes I was a bit sore a few times while my body was adjusting to my back and hips being in proper alignment. I continue to go to the Chiropractor adn always will and feel only better physically and emotionally because of it.

Jode

Hi again,

One of the things I found good about my Chiro is that he doesn't claim he can 'cure' arthritis. He was very upfront about that. His goal is to help with pain and mobility. We often talk about how joints can be damaged from external things and how this can affect the PA I have. He works around the most tender joints, trying to loosen muscles etc rather than manipulate damaged or inflamed joints. What he says makes sense, don't be afraid to challenge your Dr or Chiro, ask for explanations, if something seems impossible ask how and kee asking it until you understand! Don't let him near you with that spring loaded hammer thingie until you're sure of what he's doing - you wouldn't take a drug without knowing what it does or what the side effects might be would you? My Chiro and I have a kind of parallel treatment plan, he eventually wants to help me cut down on the extra drugs like the cox-2 inhibitors, he agrees totally with my need to have mtx and infliximab to try to halt the disease. I leave the chiro office with  spring in my step and feeling light and bendy (I may not be bendy but I feel it!). I sometimes feel a little tender to the touch but never worse than when I went in - I wouldn't go back! My Rheumatologist says he's neutral about he chiro but I think thats because he has to be - he did say that if it helps and doesn't ahrm, do it! I can honestly say that it keeps me at work, in the past 13 months I have had 3 days in hospital (obviously couldn't go to work) and 1 day at home recuperating but that was all the time off I had, in the 12 months before that I had over 8 weeks off in total.

I hope you find something that works for you - I'd cross my fingers if they weren't so swollen

KT

I know some people get tremendous relief from the Chiro. The biggest concern with RA is manipulation of your neck if you have cervical damage. I would want films before they manipulate it to make sure there's no problems. There are cases where neck manipulation of a RA patient has caused sudden death because they didn't know there was damaged discs.

You might also consider seeing a D.O. instead of a M.D. because they combine traditional medicine and manipulation.

If the treatments are uncomfortable and make things worse, I wouldn't keep going down that route. You might consider someone that does good massage therapy. In fact, your Rheumy might write you up for physical therapy that focuses the massage therapy on those places. Plus, they give you exercises to help you manage problem areas. This might be less stressful on your body. And, I love a good massage.


i would suggest you meet an expert a chirpractor may be the one

if you encounter any problems with these poses, you should consult an expert.


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There is a chiropractor at this clinic named Jackson. Apparently this is a family member. What say we send some emails letting them know we don't appreciate spamming and ask them to either stop or we will post to the www that they are filthy spammers. What do yous say? Click the link to the email site. Give a fake email address if you want. If someone will, post a form letter that we will all send.
 
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I did the chiro route before I was diagnosed with RA.  They (around here anyway) demand that at first you go 3 times a week for several weeks ($$$$$ copays---more money for them).  When I started going to an RA dr., he asked about it and he seemed concerned that it was not the best route to go with RA.  Frankly in my case, it didn't help much anyway.  Just made my checkbook slimmer. 
 
My sessions with a physical therapist didn't seem much better.  Just my experiences. 
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i would suggest you meet an expert a chirpractor may be the one

if you encounter any problems with these poses, you should consult an expert.


Chiropractor Lawrenceville GA
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