I bought 2 of these on ebay yesterday. His shipping clearly stated that you the 2nd item ships free. However, he is hasselling me to pay an extra 4.95. He is not being honest about the contract and I am so frustrated!!!
He has now changed the auction so that additional items ship for 9.95!
Just wanted you guys to know that I am getting the run around and he is being terribly rude. So, think twice before you deal with this guy!
There goes my stress level. Just another idiot who thinks he's trying to 'help' us, then sends us into more pain. What a joke.
Laura
Maybe you didn't see the word in my post EACH
It wasn't good enough that I was selling them at cost but you had to try and stiff me on shipping too... I gladly refunded your money..
I am not going to argue with you on this forum or elsewhere.
Your auction clearly states shipping for each additional item: free right under the shipping and refund policy. The auction speaks for itself.
On a good note, my money has been refunded so we are no longer under contract with eachother.
Thank you!
BEWARE
This nasty person has been trying to make money from this forum ever since he joined.
As with many other things. His fortune is highly dependent on our
Hey E_A_G_L_E_P_U, slither on out of here.
You were a snake when you came in, you are a snake going out.
SLITHER ON
"EaglePi":
We are responding publicly to you in this forum in an attempt to salvage our good name, which you seem intent upon dragging through the mud.
We made one other attempt to smooth things out when you drew such ire from a couple of forum members with your original post. (Right or wrong... it is their forum.) And I think we had at least neutralized things. But now you seem intent upon simply iritating people.
This has gotten out of hand and offering our product at "your cost" is simply not acceptable.
If one were attempting to bastardize or otherwise destroy the reputation of a product, this would certainly be one of the primary methods. Frankly, the corporate owners are shocked and think this must be some sort of clandestine effort of the part of a competitor.
Surely this is not the case.
Nonetheless, we (I) will not capitulate to this type of representation of our product. We have spent years building a sterling reputation with ALL of our clients - from orthopedic clinics to drugstores to national catalogues to Internet resellers to thousands of individual customers. And none of them have had any complaint about us, our product or our service.
We by-passed early opportunities to 'go national' with Wal-Mart, Walgreen and other fine retailers so that we could do even more market research and improve on an already great product.
Every single 'unsolicited' comment/testimonial has been double thumbs up. And I will not allow this negative, unprofessional comfabulation to taint our reputation (though indirect as it is).
Therefore, we (again) offer to refund your original investment. Simply ship all of the units you have and within 48 hours of receipt we will credit your Pay Pal account or send you a check... your choice.
We ask you not to continue offering or discussing our product in this forum or any other forum, newsgroup or blog.
Bill Lewis
V.P. Corp. Comm.
JointHeat, Inc.
cc: bill@billsteensland.com, boblewis02@gmail.com, fletch@jointheat.com, jenee@jointheat.com, sharon@jointheat.com
And the poster above is king snake, just call him "slick willie". He had not just the opportunity to stop the spamming of his product from the time that members objected, he had an obligation to apologize and ensure that his company would not be doing anymore spamming. Instead, he issues no apology, stands by his spamming sales rep, and spams himself just as he has again today. Hey Slick Willie, SURE, WE ALL BELIEVE THAT YOU PASSED ON OFFERS FROM WALGREEN AND WALMART..................................................... ................
SPAMMING IS SO MUCH MORE LUCRATIVE
Sorry but when I am piled on for nothing and then someone can't read and blames me for lying I take it personally.
As far as me selling MY product for what I want you have no say over that. I bought it and it's mine. If you want to stop me from selling it at cost, you can always buy the 34 I have left.
Then we'll all be happy
"levlarry"
Be very careful...
http://www.medialaw.org/Template.cfm?Section=Libel_FAQs
Can I Be Sued for Something I Put on the Internet?
Yes. The laws regarding defamation apply to Internet as they do to more traditional media. However, federal law protects Internet service providers (ISPs) and other interactive computer services from many lawsuits.
What is Libel?
Libel and slander are legal claims for false statements of fact about a person that are printed, broadcast, spoken or otherwise communicated to others. Libel generally refers to statements or visual depictions in written or other permanent form, while slander refers to verbal statements and gestures. The term defamation is often used to encompass both libel and slander.
In order for the person about whom a statement is made to recover for libel, the false statement must be defamatory, meaning that it actually harms the reputation of the other person, as opposed to being merely insulting or offensive.
The statement(s) alleged to be defamatory must also have been published to at least one other person (other than the subject of the statement) and must be "of and concerning" the plaintiff. That is, those hearing or reading the statement must identify it specifically with the plaintiff.
The statement(s) alleged to be defamatory must also be a false statement of fact. That which is name-calling, hyperbole, or, however characterized, cannot be proven true or false, cannot be the subject of a libel or slander claim.
The defamatory statement must also have been made with fault. The extent of the fault depends primarily on the status of the plaintiff. Public figures, such as government officials, celebrities, well-known individuals, and people involved in specific public controversies, are required to prove actual malice, a legal term which means the defendant knew his statement was false or recklessly disregarded the truth or falsity of his statement. In most jurisdictions, private individuals must show only that the defendant was negligent: that he failed to act with due care in the situation.
A defamation claim -- at least one based upon statements about issues that are matters of public interest -- will likely fail if any of these elements are not met.
While on many of these issues the burden of proof is on the plaintiff, the primary defenses to a defamation claim are that the statements are true, are not statements of fact, or are privileged. Some defamatory statements may be protected by privilege, meaning that in certain circumstances the interest in communicating a statement outweighs the interest in protecting reputation. For example, most, if not all, jurisdictions recognize a privilege for fair reports of what is said, done, or published out of government and judicial proceedings, and for reports of misconduct to the proper authorities or to those who share a common interest (such as within a family or an association). Privileges do vary somewhat from state to state in their scope and requirements. They generally apply to non-media defendants to the same degree as to media defendants.
A successful defamation plaintiff may be entitled to a jury award of money damages. In some instances, the plaintiff may also be awarded punitive damages for particularly reprehensible conduct. The parties to the claim are entitled to appeal and cases are carefully scrutinized on review to protect the defendant’s First Amendment rights.
Defamation claims can be brought by living persons and entities that are considered "persons" under the law such as corporations, unincorporated businesses, associations and unions. Governmental entities cannot maintain actions for libel or slander, although a government official can bring suit for statements about the official individually.
Libel and slander are civil claims, but a handful of the states recognize an action for criminal defamation. Prosecutions are rare, especially against the media.
Under the American federal law system, defamation claims are largely governed by state law, subject to the limitations imposed by the free speech and press provisions of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as interpreted and applied by the Supreme Court and other courts. While the elements of defamation are largely identical throughout the country, because defamation is a matter of state law there can be important differences on substantive and procedural details of the claim in the separate jurisdictions. And as a result of the application of First Amendment requirements to the claims, the specific elements as well as the burdens of proof with respect to those elements may be different depending upon whether the plaintiff is a public or private figure, whether the defendant is media or non-media, and the character of the statement(s) at issue.
More detailed information on libel and slander in each American jurisdiction, and in
What is Slander?
Slander is a defamatory statement made verbally or by gesture. The same rules generally apply to both libel and slander, which are often grouped together under the term "defamation." In some jurisdictions, the statute of limitations for slander is shorter than for libel. See What is Libel?
What are the Top Awards in Cases Against the Media?
The updated list is available here. MLRC publishes an updated list in its annual Report on Trials and Damages. The annual report is summarized in press releases, and is available for purchase here.
Help! I've Been Sued for Libel!
If you have been named as a defendant in a libel suit, you should not ignore it. Your failure to act may have severe legal and financial consequences. You should find a lawyer who is well-versed in First Amendment issues to advise you. See Where Can I Find a First Amendment Lawyer?
Hey Slick Willy,
I have sent all posts concerning eaglepi, jointheat, you, wparrish and myself LEVLarry to my lawyer. After reading all posts he started to smile. He seldom smiles unless he is getting a check. We have also sent all posts in a form of a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission. Don't threaten me on my forum.
[QUOTE=levlarry]Hey Slick Willy,
I have sent all posts concerning eaglepi, jointheat, you, wparrish and myself LEVLarry to my lawyer. After reading all posts he started to smile. He seldom smiles unless he is getting a check. We have also sent all posts in a form of a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission. Don't threaten me on my forum.
[/Wow Lev...your forum huh!!!! so tell us more about YOUR forum...lol