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Parasites benefit MS patients

By CHRISTINE DELL'AMORE
UPI Consumer Health Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- Oddly enough, being infested with parasites might lessen the symptoms of multiple sclerosis, researchers reported in January's Annals of Neurology. Scientists at the Raul Carrea Institute for Neurological Research in Buenos Aires found support for the theory that the autoimmune response from a parasitic infection can weaken the inflammatory reaction that sparks MS symptoms.

The researchers studied 12 patients with MS who had parasitic infections, 12 patients with MS who were not infected and 12 healthy individuals. The patients underwent a neurological exam every three months and a brain MRI every six months; immunologic evaluations were done between the last 12 to 18 months of the study, which lasted nearly five years.

During the study there were only three MS relapses in the infected group, compared to 56 relapses in the uninfected group.

It's possible parasites may spur growth of regulatory T-cell numbers or activity by generating or activating new cells, the authors wrote.

Since intestinal parasites inhabit their hosts for long periods of time, in order to enhance their survival they may develop molecules that prevent inflammation. The authors note more research is needed to find out which molecules dampen these inflammatory reactions.

Lynk39101.0581018519There is a lot of information coming out right now that is focusing on the
"Clean Theory". This is the way it was explained to me when I attended a
nursing seminar not too long ago. Some researchers are saying that we,
as an advanced, industrialized, affluent society, have become too clean.
We bathe too much, are totally pre occupied with our homes being clean.
We use products on our bodies and houses that kill...everything. We are
eating antibiotics like candy. And, this is leading to a real imbalance in or
bodies flora and parasitic counts. We have disrupted them. And we do
not want to kill them as they are very important in our bodys normal
functioning. When we kill these, and our immune systems are not given a
chance to "work out" on a regular basis by honing in and killing whatever
comes along, the immune system gets bored and finds something else to
do, it attacks our healthy cells. There is a lot of research being done on
this topic right now. Looking back at my own situation, I have had a
struggle with my "super clean" ways. My house had to be emaculate at all
times and it was nothing to do the old...clorox scrub from top to bottom,
that along with all the gallons of antibacterial soap at work that I have
used, i feel has been somewhat responsibe for this RA. I have really had
to take a step back and look at my lifestyle. I do not use antibacterial
anything and I buy earth friendly cleaning products. I use olive oil based
soaps. It is more costly, but I feel that I am no longer contributing to this
clean theory. I hate to see my kids in this situation. While I feel this is
not the only reason I came down with this, it was one piece of a large
puzzle and I will do anything to stop what I feel to be a practice that can
destroy my health. So back to the parasites. These are part of our normal
flora and while we don't need an abundance of them, we need some of
them to do their job.

So, why are people being 'cured' of their MS on a combined antibiotic therapy (CAP)?  The parasites may have some benefit that the researchers are over looking.  Instead, they are saying the parasites are the cause of the remissions.  Think of the recent work done with maggots.  Maggot's - yucky creatures - apparently clean wounds and secret a substance so that wounds heal.  The person gets a benefit of wounds that heal and the creature get to eat.  Ok, that's more symbiotic, but you get my drift. 

Lorster - Clean Theory is something they use for asthama all the time.  But it cannot be all that's going on, like you said.  I used to joke that I didn't have to worry about my kid getting any of this because the house was always messy or one step up from social service intervention (LOL).  But look at us now.  And I have read stuff that say they tested the sinks of ABX soap users and were not able to prove resistance.

Food for thought,

Pip

I recall that many moons ago that they were bathing newborns with Dail Soap, which at that time was much stronger than it is now and babies were dying soon after birth and nobody knew why.  It was because the soap was killing the germs that newborns need to survive.  The dial soap people hushed it up somewhat, but I have always remembered it and have tried to apply to my everyday living, 
There are too many germ killing products out there and the odors from them will give anyone a sinus headache or an asthma attack. Too much perfume in everything!
Lorster, thanks for sharing that info.

Ok, I agree about the over clean stuff, but I can't imagine the conversation with the doctor about the parasite treatment. Let's see...

Doctor, "I have a new treatment for you that's right on the leading edge of research."

Patient, "Great, what is it. I certainly don't want MS."

"We are going to invest you with parasites by sending you for a couple of weeks in a third world country. Of course, there is some risk that the wrong parasites met infect you. But I believe that the benefits for you far outweigh the risks. What do you think?"

"I think not."

"You are just being a difficult, unreasonable patient. I won't treat you any more. You can just go for a second opinion."

Okay, extreme, but my first reaction.

umm  I  don't  know  but  parasites?   I  dont  think  I  would  say hey  doc  I need  some  parasites  please  I  do know  that  some  of  them are   hard  to kill off  in fact  I  heard a  doc  say  some  worm is  almost impossible  to kill off  because  you  almost have  to kill  the  pt   to kill  the  worm

now  for  ra  folks    some  parasites  actually  cause  joint pain   so  I   don't  know  if  i  would  run off  and  ask  for  some  bugs  from the  doc   just  yet.

I  read  somewhere  that  85  per  cent  of  americans  are  already  infested  because  of our  bad  food   supply  so  I  not   sure  having  enough  bugs is  a  problem.

hell  just eating  at   mcdonalds  once  probably means  you  have  parasites  lol.

That's the cure then. Eat a McDonald's. And we thought it was bad for us.

Just kidding. Mark you made some good points. I just can't stand the thought of them giving me bugs as a treatment option. It creeps me out. Guess I'm not desperate enough today.

What would be great is if they could learn to understand the molecular process or chemicals released by the parasites which trigger the T-cell growth.  Then perhaps you could take a pill or shot that would start the same reaction.  I hope that is where this research will lead.

Have you heard about the treatment using bat spit for stroke victims.  It sounds so amazing - I know if anyone in my family ever suffers from a stroke I am requesting it!  It's use is becoming more and more common and it is apparently saving many lives, and preventing the devastating damage done to the body by a major stroke.

BAT SPIT ??? 

How do you get a bat to spit anyhow? Offer it chewing tobacco? Insult it's mother?

   Doctor: "You have a choice in treatments. . ."

   Patient: "Oh, good. What are they?"

   Doctor: "You can be infested with parasitic worms. . ."

   Patient, horrified: "Or . . .?!?"

   Doctor: "You can hang out in a cave until a bat spits on you."

   Patient: "I've gotta get a better HMO"

Lynk39101.7006597222

Lynk, that was definitely funny.

Hillhoney, it would be great if it leads to something really helps. A lot of things in nature do. I think that there are a lot of answers out there which is why it is such a shame that so many habitats are being destroyed.

Hey, if a bug can cure me or at least not destroy my body in the process of making me feel better, I would go for it. Just don't make me touch one. Same thing goes for the bat.

Too funny you guys!

Hillhoney -

I don't suppose you have any articles or anything on the bat spit.  I'd really like to see it.

Pip

I saw it on TV - actually saw a woman from TN that was treated with it and in spite of the fact that she had a massive stroke, she didn't have any damage!

Here's an article I found searching on google:

http://www.thestar.com/article/153695

Duh - why didn't I think of Google!

Thanks - I copied the article for my files.

Pip


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