Hello first thing I need to tell you is ( this is not a scam ) I am a 51 year old man and I am Disabled and I live with my wife and granddaughter I have been Disabled for 14 years I have severe rheumatic disease severe Fibromyalgia a Bad knee which makes me wear a leg brace and a degenerate disease in all my joints which makes it very hard to just get around I have to get help from my wife to do anything. We have very little a Month to live on but with Rent,heating ,electric, phone and all the things it takes just to live it is not much and it just breaks my heart to have to tell my granddaughter she cant have that candy bar or maybe you will get that doll for your birthday when I know it is not true we are frizzing in our own home we have very little money for anything else even food and I have no savings and I cant get any gov help even food stamps so hear I am the only thing I know to do ask for your help if anyone could just send 5$ or just 1 or 2 $ it would sure help God bless you all Jim send money to 445 E P st. Atchison Ks 66002 again God Bless You All ( this is not a scam )
(I also heard about this, it is getting popular to ask for money on the internet and it IS a scam) I googled Mr. downandout and look what I found....how pathetic!!!!!!!!! HOW TO TURN INTO ,000!!!!!! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE! Hello my name is Jim I am 47 years old and I have seen a lot of things but this one really works if you do just what is says you will get money and it is so much fun.I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of .00! So I thought, Yeah right, this must be a scam,but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send .00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured: what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and .00, right? Then I invested the measly .00. Well GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about .00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over ,000.00! In the third week I had over ,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over ,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth .00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works....Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It's easy. It's legal. And, your investment is only .00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and ,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper;PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST. Now get 6 US .00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a .00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1)Matt Madracki P.O. Box 1529 Sutton West, Ontario LOE I RO #2) Mike Degen 10 Deer Run Lebanon,NJ 08833 #3) Crystal Bonifer 6331 Sean P.kwy St.Louis,MO 63129 #4) Ritchie Espino 19147 Little Plain Pkwy Oregon City, OR 97045 #5)Abe Husein 2180 NE Parvin Rd Kansas City MO 64116 #6) JW Griffin 445 East ‘P’st. Atchison,Ks 66002 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only .00 (.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you're in business! ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step4)Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) (Just example you log on any search engine like, yahoo.com, google.com, altavista.com excite.com and then you search with this subject, $millionaire message board$, or $money making message board$, or $employment message board$, or $money making discussion$, or $money making forum$, or $business message board$. Step5)Visit these messages boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your first one! Congratulations... THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! * *REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made .00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me .00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another .00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional 5.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional 6.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me ,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive ,625,00! With an original investment of only .00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another .00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU is now!! So, can you afford .00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, & quote; what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember: play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work for all of us! Also remember that if your thinking of not playing fair, your probably not the only one, & in the long run we'll all LOOSE MONEY (think about it)!!! Let's get this CASH!! Ow ow ow!!! Can we sign him up for the bosley hair? and maybe one for Erectile Dysfunction? and maybe one for information on syphilis? and one on a penial pump? and one on zoloft? and one on enzyte? and one on how to lose weight in 2 weeks super fast? and one on G.L.A.D.D.? and finally and not least... Then let downandout become a penpal to a guy named "bubba" in the state pen doing 80-life and the return address is downandout's address. Oh and let's not forget to mention that if "Bubba" included a in his letter to downandout that downandout would come visit him and they could have conjugical visit. Yeah imagine it... then "bubba" starts telling his block buddies "send a to this address and tell him "bubba" sent ya!"
Joonie & Hillhoney, Thanks for my morning laugh. The guy doesn't just have balls, he's sleazy. I like your ideas. No sense in getting mad at people like this; it's not good for us to be stressed and he's not worth it. He's a low-life scumball. He'll get his in the end. The second he said "This is not a scam" I knew it was. Too Funy!! I say we all at least sent him an envelope full of trash to at least jam up his mail box so he can open a bunch of crap along with his money. The nerve of some people!! Just when I think I've seen it all..... OR~ If you don't have anything better to do you can call him: 913-367-4381 and give him a piece of your mind!! What a dumb ass for posting his home address. MR. GRIFFIN; you're an idiot!! As soon as that nice young Nigerian man sends me my cashiers check I'll get back to you!
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HoaxBustersHome.html This is a Ponzi scheme - only updated to the internet age. It is also highly illegal. Anybody want to turn him in to the police? I also think the FBI is involved in the Internet stuff. Pip Geesh! MAybe he should sell his computer and buy that dolly for his granddaughter.....this person should feel shame! What a hoax and congrats for the research on this creep. There must be somewhere we can turn this con artist in to the feds. LOL what is so funny is that he comes to a board where we all suffer and try to find money for our meds! Like we will send him cash? I guess he needs to get in touch with one of the movie stars that like to donate money for people. I guess standing on the street corner with a cup held out is out dated. Now it is fromt he comfort of their homes! lolol.......He probably even has cable which is more than I have!!!!!!!!! lolol For that matter he prob has a better computer! Hey you scammy! Go to your local county to ask for help if things are so bad......ooops forgot we found out you were scamming us....well then take your pathetic scam elsewhere! There are oh so many creeps in this world! jode hell turn him into the feds i say exploting the sick is well sick. send this ass to jail. Good research! What a low life that guy is. Some other resourcse - The Federal Trade Commission http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/doznalrt.htm has a scam complaint form: https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 And they particpate in a central registry of scams: Snopes is another good place to check out scams and urban myths: http://www.snopes.com/ Oh poor down and out, don't you know karma is an ever turning wheel. It is always a disgrace to read about someone having an illness they don't have or thinking people with an illness are feeble minded. I guess you figured it out by now, there are no feeble minded people on this board. You should pray that RA doesn't come to visit you and bite you on the butt. By the way you are committing interstate fraud and the FBI might be interested in you.
LuAnn lol!! Too Funny. I personally like the idea of flooding his home address with junk mail (I started that one today!)...or better yet; Let's just all start calling his home number in the middle of the night when we can't sleep because we're in pain. Let it ring a few times and then hang up. Don't forget to do *69 so he can't call you back if you don't have a private number. Most cell phones have free long distance. I think this could work. lol I don't think his name is Jim, I think it's something starting with a W. His last name is Griffin. He's really stupid though. It's not real hard to do a reverse directory and get a name to go with an address. A phone number too!! What an idiot!! I'm sure he's hit every message board coming and going. He's unlikely to come back here to see our thoughts on his subject......But just in case he is: Mr. Griffin you're and idiot!!
Misunderstanding my eye! We're glad to have ya here Will.....pop in and out when every you have time. We appreciate your help. There isn't a big difference between a spammer and a scammer, just a pc. Report both, even if they threaten you. I did. the ftc has a place to send spam? i NEVER knew that, and i even pay for a reporting program and send my spam reports to spamassasin and 2 other major spam watchdogs. oh goodie....someplace else to send me spam! thanks! Oh PEOPLE!!!!!! If you call him it's not *69 (that gives YOU the last call your phone received). It's *67 (that blocks YOUR number from being seen or *69 from the person YOU called). FYI. Happy Harassing
Ok I will be sending him some mulah in the mail soon. I just need to remember to ask hubby where his play money is at... he has some 1 Million dollar bills with clinton on them
Heck! I might even send him more than one... as we get our stamps from the in-laws for free
say there are people and services in your area that will help.
Well I must say that selling the computer and disconnecting your online service will buy a lot of candy bars. Hubby and I only had online service after we were able to pay all of our bills first.
Let's not get mad, let's get even! LOL
http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/
http://www.dailystrength.org/index.php?option=com_mamblog&am p;Itemid=47&task=show&action=view&id=22338
If you want to report him, go to www.fbi.gov. I've reported so many spammers, they think I'm one now. So, one of you will have to do it.
IRS since he has been polite enough to include his name and address.
Maybe he should give his share to the IRS like the rest of us have to.Oh, that's a good one, Lorster.i have been down and out for few years but would never ask my friends here or in chat for money.i don't wish ra on anyone but this guy is different,i hope he does get servere ra. i like the idea of sending him junk or calling in middle of night too,lol,
Wonderful - Totally Wonderful. We all have physical limitations BUT our sense of humor is certainly in tact. If you can, give yourself a pat on the back!
Absolutely love the ideas I've seen on this board today. Since a stamp doesn't cost much I put a packet full of junk mail in and envelope and sent it to him.
Also printed out copies of his post and am sending it to my state tax commissioner and attorney general. They have at their disposal all contacts needed to investigate and shut this scam down.
Subject: Griffin
From: Jerry.Cross@atchisonlec.org
We will contact Mr. Griffin and advise him to stop bothering you on your web site. He is a subject known to us and hopefully after a visit from us he will stop.
Lt. Jerry M. Cross
Subject: Griffin
From: Jerry.Cross@atchisonlec.org
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:40:25 -0600
I just spoke to him myself and he assured me that it must have been a misunderstanding. I told him to stop and if he didn't we would take further action.
He assured me that he would not bother anyone any further. Let me know if he pulls anything else.
Lt. Cross
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