I wrote this on another post where one of our members was so excited about a cheesecake filling and then someone else decided to rain on her parade of happiness...........what the heck has this board come to? DO we not come here for friendship and support and to share our individual happiness and the small things in our life that make us forget that we have this horridly painful and destructive disease if not just for the moment it takes us to read it?
DO people actually forget that we are at war and many of our families have lost a son or a daughter or a nephew or a niece, not to mention the children and wives of our nation are left at home in grief and in fear that their loved ones will never return to them alive? Are people so caught up in being mean spirited that they do not realize that there is tragedy all around us and we should be thankful that we have this place to share the minute happiness we feel at times?
C'mon...... I am sure you are all aware that there have been several of our soldiers that died this week. All of them had a mom and a dad and families and loved ones that have been permanently effected. I am sure everyone is aware of Anna Nicoles' funeral and how her selfish mother tried to stop it after she laid in the morgue for all too long due to law suits; this was a true rag to riches story that ended horribly and many people are in grief due to the greed and wanting center stage of others and their is a child without a mother and must be under protection her entire life. I am also sure that most are aware of the tragedy with the ball players that were at the height of their young glory who were in a tragic accident, not even to mention all those who died from the tornadoes and those who have lost everything due to the destruction. Do some people so easily forget that not only have adults died this week worldwide but many young adults and children as well?
Why, oh why is there so much hatred here where we as RA sufferers come for piece of mind, friendship and information?
Just wondering.
jode
I haven't said much for the past few days because I'm tired of it too. I've admitted to enjoying the drama; but what's been happening lately isn't entertainment at all....it's horrible mean spirited meanness.
I too saw the cheese cake post; and was happy to see that no one responded directly to the person in question. Let's please just continue that. They just want to get everyone upset; and they have been successful in doing that but they will not run any of us off so what's the point?
Their comments are so random. They post old clips of things that were said and just need to be left in the past. At this point they are only trying their hardest not to be forgotten; and frankly I think everyone has finally decided what they are saying doesn't matter. No one cares what they think....and no one is waisting their energy getting upset about it anymore. Who are they anyway? We don't really know; and they don't really want to tell us.
Not everyone here is so mean and heartless Jode. It's one person.....at the most three that are involved. Please don't group everyone in there together. Eventually they'll stop. Just please try to ignore them.
There certainly are more important things in the world. You're right about that.
Oh I do not blame the board at all nor the "good people". I was just stating that it is a shame that the mean few have to drudge up old stuff and just try to make turmoil when there is so much else that they could be contributing, maybe...and that may be it, maybe being cruel and brutal is all they know to contribute. How horrible must their mother and father feel to raise such a waste to society?...hopefully they can turn themselves around huh? As for me, I do not value their opinion at all.
lol....... I have to laugh cause I am a caught up in the Anna Nicole saga, I am into it big time,oh yeah, that is me definately glued to each bit of information. I will try to wean myself off of it though.I am not so enticed for the entertainment but for the logistics and legalities of it and I have many reasons as to why. My main reason is because whether morally or not, she made something of herself for her and her son and many others and she might well be one of the most wealthy people in the United States to pass away. SHe did this all with her drive and motivation to succeed, and without so much as a H.S. diploma I understand. I admire someone like that.
jode
I've been watching the Anna Nicole Smith thing too. It's a shame what her mother's been doing.....and now Daniel's father is trying to get involved. Where was he when the boy died? Why is he so interested now? It's absolutely rediculous!
I'm just glad they have finally buried the poor lady. I hope she'll be able to rest in peace now.
It's all so very sad.
Oh it is so sad. From what I understand, the dad had nothing to do with Daniel, never paid child support or anything adn I am not so sure he even went to his funeral. During the court case he said for Anna to be buried in the Bahamas next to Daniel, then all of a sudden, he wants to exume the body....oh so Anna's mom and her lawyers finally got to him huh? They are both in the best place they could be as far as I am concerned and if Dannielynn ends up in California it will be a horrible life for her the way I see it.
THey just want money, the more dysfunction, the more air time the more money. I am sure all of them will have book deals and movie deals from all this and that to me is wrong.
WHen Christopgher Reeves died then his wife, not all this hubub was made and their poor son is left without any parents! How many regular everyday life people must endure these same circumstances?! It is all because of money and a lot of it.
Oh well, a benefit of being average and or poor I guess! Glad I am not the only one keeping up with the story. I have not had the tv on all day, been getting things done. I was just hoping so much that Howard could bury Anna in the Bahamas next to DAniel. Anna's mom is a horrible person just like Anna said she was. I mean who in the H!!! would try stop their daughter funeral in the steaming hot weather of the Bahamas onboard an airplane with the Funeral about to begin.......and.....after 3 judges already ruled...then, THEN!! she shows up at the funeral. She is a cold hearted and cold soul is all I have to say.
jode
I agree [QUOTE=jodejjr]SHe did this all with her drive and motivation to succeed, and without so much as a H.S. diploma I understand. I admire someone like that.jode
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She'd be among the last people I'd ever admire. She was a wreck...couldn't speak properly because of all the drug use. I'm also pretty sure that had she not done all that she had done during her life to be where she was, her son would still be alive today. But because of the lifestyle that she chose, he was around some pretty bad people and circumstances.
I do agree that her whole life is sad, but well....those were because of HER actions. She chose to be where she was and what she did.
No, she is not someone I would admire or would like to see my daughter admire as a woman.
I can't say I admired her either. I was horrified when I saw that video with her stoned out of her mind and obviously preg. with that child. I wasn't surprised....but horrified to see evidence of it. What kind of person does that? Obviously an addict. And Howard knew she was doing it. Almost proves it wasn't his child in my opinion. I fully expect for the results to show that Larry Burkhead is the real father of that child....and I kind of think he'd make a good father. Seems like (And it could all be an act) he's already in love with that child; and he's only held her once.
The story is kind of like a train wreak. It's awful to see; but you still can't help but look.
I watched Anna's biography on A & E and she definitely was not someone to admire. Pity perhaps, but only to a degree. She married Howard Marshall the elderly oil tycoon, and then deserted him, alone, sick and begging her to visit him, but she didn't have time for him, unless she needed him to send her another check. She had her own home in LA and was having huge drug parties there way back then. When her sick, frail husband Marshall was admitted to the hospital a week before he died, she didn't even come to visit him, even though she was told he was asking for her. She may have only had an 8th grade education, but she was good at manipulating men to get what she wanted.
My real sympathies are with her son and now her daughter. It is heartbreaking to see everyone clamoring for custody, simply because they want control of her estate. How will that poor little child ever have a normal, happy life?
And they buried her with part of her late husands ashes? What? That sounded crazy!
My main reason is because whether morally or not, she made something of herself for her and her son and many others and she might well be one of the most wealthy people in the United States to pass away. SHe did this all with her drive and motivation to succeed, and without so much as a H.S. diploma I understand. I admire someone like that.<<
Yick. I have to disagree with that. I don't admire her at all and always felt embarrassed for her. She was famous, but that sure doesn't mean she made something of herself. She showed her lack of class, social grace and heart on a regular bases. I think some of these young women (e.g. Brittney Spears and Lindsay Lohann) would be wise to pay attention to Anna Nicole Smith's tragic life and death.
She did it all by marrying a very rich old man for his money. How sick is that?
She made something of herself alright,.....look where she is now.
I too feel for the baby....so sad...she'll never have a normal life. Money doesn't buy everything.
CinDee
Wow, I don't like it when people judge me...isn't that what we are all doing here with Anna Nicole Smith?
She was an addict, addicts do things that normal people wouldn't. She was also raised by someone who claimed to love her, but has shown some perhaps, uhmmm, poor judgement since her daughters death and probably well before her daughter died.
No one truly knows anything about her, it is mostly speculation. I agree, she is where she is mostly due to her own doing, but it had to start somewhere, right? I blame the parents some. Most people don't wake up one day and say, "I think I'll become an addict and screw my life up". She clearly had no self esteem, where do you think that started, home? Just my 2 cents, not trying to start a war
Phatgirl Phatgirl2 I did see that...I wonder if it is true? Could be another twist in the saga! Phatgirl Ya know what , I am entitled to my opinion whether all of you agree or disagree. She has a hell of a lot more money than any of us will ever see and so what if she was a drug addict........dang, she made something of herself in spite of it all and made a good living doing it and I do not blame her for her son's death. SO what if Larry is the dad, Howard has been the only father Dannielynn has ever known, and yeah you can see by his pupils he was drugged most of the time or maybe that is how his body is. So what about the Lupus??????????????????? JODE and also..I think the woman deserves all that millionaires money for being there for him, would you kiss that old man??????????? No, probably not but she did, that has to be worth a billion just in itself. so there! jode Hehehee @ JODE! Kissing an old OLD man is worth billions. Heck sometimes I think I need to be paid a million for kissing hubby when he eats chili.
I too was sad to hear of her death. But it kinda made me go into the conspircy theory mode. I mean it does seem wierd and all. And I watched most of her reality show and thought some of that was just wierd on how Howard K. Stern dry humped her and a few other things. But ya know... I cannot help but think he helped to kill her and in some way thought that if he did not help her to get better, she would eventually die and he would get most of her money. I was watching Larry King Live last night and they were talking to TMZ.com and ET correspondent. One of them said HKS was on 7 life insurance policies of hers. They also said that this coming week... the medical examiner is to release his report and he stated that it will be a surprise to everyone. They both did mention that someone said she had lupus, but they is believed her death was drug related. I just think they are all out for her money. I do think she did make something of herself, but the last decade she has really went down hill. If you have watched any of the "lost interviews" they showed on Extra and ET, she did not seem as ditzy and seemed like she knew what she was talking about. It is just a sad story all the way around for everyone. Money is the root of all evil. So true, I never watched her reality show, I thought she was just a lard lump out for money at the time. I still believe though it took a tremendous amount of corage, motivation adn drive to do what she did, not that it was right mind you. Initially I truly thought HKS had something to do withe her death and even felt initially he had something to do with Daniels death. Whatever the outcome you can be certain that the lawyers will all fight about it and somehow the truth will prevail , hopefully. Yeah, and who has 7 life insurance policies when they are already wealthy....I think that was definately planned. If I ever learned anything, you never ever take a life insurance out on anyone or be beneficiary if you have not been married to them for a long time...it does not look good asnd is always questioned. My ex fiance' wanted me to take a life insurance policy out on him and I told him there is NOWAY! I remember when HKS had even stated himself that Daniel stated that he wondered why he felt so sleepy... and this was just hours before Daniel died according to HKS.I also wondered why Anna was taking so many drugs during her pregnancy, I am sure Dannielynn is dependent on drugs and that is part of the hush of it all.Perhaps the child was never meant to live? Who knows. It all comes out in the wash so they say. jode Yep, I so think he had something to do with both deaths. I mean he put up with her for 15 years, and has been waiting for that money to come thru for just as long. I believe she kept him around because he knew way more about her than she wanted people to know. And she in a sense became his sugar momma to keep his quiet. I am sure her reality show was one of the many ways she tried to keep the money flowing in. One of her friends on Larry King Live a few weeks back talked about how ANS talked about how HKS would make them money when they needed it, by leaking out personal photos, or something else that she did not want to be made public. I think TrimSpa, like her reality show, was just another gig to keep HKS from leaking more personal stuff about her. I mean there is only so much someone can leak to the press before they get to the hardcore stuff before the money runs out again. DO people actually forget that we are at war and many of our families have lost a son or a daughter or a nephew or a niece, not to mention the children and wives of our nation are left at home in grief and in fear that their loved ones will never return to them alive? Are people so caught up in being mean spirited that they do not realize that there is tragedy all around us and we should be thankful that we have this place to share the minute happiness we feel at times? [/QUOTE] Nope, We here never have a chance to forget this. We have been so busy getting friends and family ready to fly out to Afghanistan (deployment) the last two weeks that we haven't even watched the news or for that metter TV at all really. Generally we stop watching it altogether for awhile after they fly out anyway. So the story about the blond, the drugs, the rich and famous? Well...at the moment we just don't have the time to keep up with all of it, even though I'm sure someone in our circle of friends is watching it. They haven't been keeping us up to date....After our job is done, then we might have time to watch television. I'll keep on reading this thread, heck maybe I'll figure it out!
So Jen, who do you know is going off to war? I feel for you I honestly do. I remember when my nephew was shipped out...horrible, just horrible. jode No nasty reply here, her son was dragged through her life that was not always moral or even believable. Her life was all he knew. There is not a doubt in my mind that she married the elderly man for his money but he must have gotten something out of it as well. When there is money there is always going to be an argument. She liekd all the press it gave her and it would not surprise me if Howard was behind most of the decision making. No doubt in my mind she was drugged secretly by him, then got addicted, to me it was his way of controlling her an dher money. Oh well the saga continues. SO glad I have led a boring life in comparison. It Happens, "A Lot". I have been on several other forums only to find "party poopers" constantly puting others down and treating them like dog ----. Just because some people aren't happy, doesn't mean they have to bring it down on everyone else. Some people just feel better when they make others feel killing themselves. I don't know what the other post was about, but I have seen it before. I don't know why they do what they do, but it happens everywhere. Maybe one day these people will finally grow up and find out that everyone should be treated with respect and if they don't agree with something, either put the correct answer in the post or just keep their typing shut. I guess that would be my worst problem. I hate it most when people argue others but can't bring proof to why the person they are treating bad is wrong. They tend to sit there and say "you are wrong" "where did you get your information" blah blah blah. Sure, some things have questions, but I have seen them keep yelling when the proof was handed with a url. Some people will never change. They hate themselves and only they can change that. But, yep i have seen it forum after forum after forum. Sometimes the same person in multiple forums causing trouble. Just do your best to help those being bashed so they don't get frustrated and make their health worse. We should be helping here, not hurting. My Best friends are an Army couple, I have been watching thier kids for 7 years. They adopted me in a way. It takes alot of people to get him ready to fly out. He's high maintenance...
My daughter is getting married in 2008 and her fiance's best friend, the man who will be the best man at their wedding, is currently stationed in Baghdad. I correspond with him frequently, he sends me photos of him and the guys in his unit, etc. Last week he sent me an email saying, "I bet you're seeing what's going on here and you're worried, but don't be. I'm fine, my free time just got shortened up though!" What a wonderful gift to be able to hear that in real-time! My thoughts and prayers are with Bob and his unit.
Marshall asked Anna to marry him and she kept turning him down. She said she wanted to make something of herself first. It took her 2 and a half years to accept his proposal and then they were married. It wasn't like she just married a rich man on a whim.
Marshall was very sick and his son forbid Anna to see him. He would only let Anna in to see Marshall for 30 minutes at a time.
Read the transcript from Larry King's show here
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0205/29/lkl.00.html
People are just too quick to judge. Just like with RA, people can assume what it feels like, but only you know.
I enjoyed Anna. She was a classic. She was always entertaining to watch and I liked her guts. Now Madonna has always got on my nerves
The one who really suffered from her life was her son, not her. That poor kid saw his mother as an addict and followed her down that path. Maybe it's a blessing (Oh lord I'll get nasty responses for this) that she's not in the daughter's life.
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