Not treating this monster isn’t an option | Arthritis Information

Dear Folks, as we know on this forum we must, must treat this disease. If someone can manage without the current 'super meds' then more power to them, BUT it involves preventing damage to our joints and our vital organs, so those of us who are in the advanced stages of this KNOW. Please visualize this: I witnessed my grandmother 60 years ago in a hospital and she was curled up, her hands were closed and she cried out in pain when my father and mother 'helped her to the potty'. She was in such pain, unable to MOVE. we know that pain, but we are lucky to have our super meds!! WE ARE LUCKY, trust me!!

"we are lucky to have our super meds!! WE ARE LUCKY, trust me!!"

I cannot trust you because "to have super meds" there is PAIN but without super meds there is no pain that is exactly my experience!!

You are lucky because without the meds I would be bedridden right now. feelingbetter

I am not lucky but it all about mindset and belief on herbs and natural food. With that conviction, I explore, find, use the herbs to systematically overcome the disease.

I was bedridden before, so I know precisely what is real felling better and enjoy QOL.

You have your conviction of feelingbetter with meds, good luck to you in the years to come.

hurts amen for supermeds and surgeons. They have made my life liveable

pammy416, I admire you endurance thru' many bouts of unbearable, supermeds and surgeons to be liveable.

But you are not free from drugs and worries as you still have to go to battle fields with the disease!

Yes RA is a battle and some "battle fields" are worse than others. We people with advanced disease do not have the luxury of implementing herbs and natural foods and mindset to undo the damage that this horrible disease has done to our bodies. Surgeons and Supermeds absolutely make my QOL better. Sure, there are low risk or even risky side effects that are probably not doing my body any good but I have to weigh my options and live for today. Kokako88, I have no doubt that your treatment plan works great for you. But as you know if you've have RA for any length of time, "everyones" treatment plan is different.

I wish you well if your conviction and choice that supermeds and surgeons absolutely make your QOL better. In fact you have gone thru' medical providers & specialists, supermeds, and under the knife of surgeons. All these professionals and high power drugs are luxuries and to some laymen are beyond their means!

Simple people take appropriate herbs, are more conscious of the natural food we eat and ensure good daily toilet habits. It is because we know how to nature systematically the healthy bodies in preparations for series of battles to coerce and weaken the "monsters" in such manner that they have no room in the healthy bodies so that they can leave and abundant their positions peacefully and naturally. A simple, natural and "friendly" approach that can "tame" the "monsters" to accept defeat willingly. That is what I term as effective result

I belief the "monsters" dislike being "bombarded" and treated aggressively with supermeds and cuts under the knives. The "monsters" can run amoks and can become more fearful and damaging under constant "bombardments" of supermeds and finally cuts under the knives. When they are immunized and have developed to "super monsters", every single battle is a test of better QOL or suffering.

Every one makes a decision according to one's conviction. As long as one is happy and better one's QOL the rest is not important.

kokako88, I try lots of things what is your treatment plan?

I agree with everyone - we need to do what is right for us and we have options now. I just read a book about someone last night who had RA so severe that she has practically every joint in her body replaced now, she had to wet the bed one night because she couldn't get to the toilet and she had to eat her dinner with her face in her plate at times - she was dx in 84 and I pray for us all that it never gets to that point for us. I do agree we should take the best care of our bodies possible but we must all do what works for us best and I am glad we have the options we have.

It is not trying a lot of things but the "correct things". As a saying goes "Rome is not built in a day".

The tendency for most people is that they "have tried a lot of things do not work" so generally the belief is "all alternatives can not work".

I cannot describe in scientific term as a layman but the feelings and experiences.

Firstly one needs effective and appropriate herbs to stop the "monster" from inflicting excruciating pain at each onset of attack.

Next the herbs can monitor and keep track with the "monsters" advancement from joint to joint during attack until the "monsters" lost Their ammunitions and come to a halt.

Then it is the time for the herbs to coerce the "monsters" to surrender in a "friendly manner" and "neutralize" their damaging actions. These follow by cleansing and converting processes by churning "them" into gases, and wastes to be disposed gradually and naturally. The processes may continue for days/weeks depending on severity.

I term it "friendly manner" because there is no pain. Apart from swells and inconveniences it is normal QOL to carry out daily rountine!

Back to normal, there is no need to take meds but drink wild lingzhi tea often and eat natural food selectively. That is all

I am sad to read, see people suffer and eventually die from other complications like heart/kidneys problems etc. after long term of medication. I respect their choices and convictions. As long as one gains QOL, happy and comfortable, all else is not important.

kokako8839148.8793402778Thanks for all the posts. I'm glad to hear all sides of this issue, but my experience is that I need the super-delux-meds,.

I experienced meds & disease inseparable 20 years ago. Perhaps in my past years I believed because other alternatives never came close.

Almost 20 years I have not taken any drug but only herbs and daily diet of selective natural food. I have reversed the severity gradually to no flare and better QOL for many years. So afterall super meds in treating arthritis are not indispensable. In fact the damaging side effects by far are greater than benefits

I know many sufferers depend entirely on super meds as life savers and cannot live without them.

Viewing from the top of a mountain I command a wider and clearer picture. Life is great free from flare. No worry and fear of uncertainty about changing and upgrading from super, extra-super and extreme super meds. No pain and no suffering and back to normal healthy life performing daily rountines. That is the real QOL and result.

kokako8839149.8492013889der Doitright, I'm really happy you have that view from the top of the mountain, but believe me if I could have done without these meds I would have and I would have known it as I 'had to get off of them for 3 months'. I was in such pain and so stiff/swollen and sore I couldn't walk!! No one likes to take drugs, and would select other choices, but WE MUST go with wat works for us. congratulations on finding your cure!

I sympathize your endurance of such pain stiff/swollen joints that you counldn't walk.

To get off drugs, I have appropriate herbs as alternative. Not any herbs but effective herbs that can ease pain, reduce swelling, cleanse the toxic, turn into wastes and dispose the wastes naturally.

To fight series of winning battles with the disease, my secret weapons are:

a. appropriate wild lingzhi and herbs;

b. daily diet consists of selective natural food that includes choice fruits & fruits' juices, vegetables, fish etc.;

c. good daily toilet habits.

Although it is as easy as a, b, c; but it requires determination, discipline, conviction, consistency to continue fight a series of flares and emerge all winning battles with the disease. Each winning bout is a plus for healthy body and a minus for the disease. The ultimate result is no threat (not remission) from the disease i.e. what really works.