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After reading all your posts re: Roxy, I couldn't help but remember how I was ganged up on about 6 months ago now, for not "supporting" her.  I had only posted once or twice and the things said to me made me feel terrible.

I am putting this here to remind you how bad it can be to gang up on someone to defend a person that really only thinks of herself.

Please try to understand.

Thanks

 


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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:22pm | IP Logged

I rarely ever post on this board but felt the need to at this point. 

If you have any feelings left for this man, please let him go.  He will never be sober in your household because he gets no support.  Even drunks have feelings.  You come here and admit you are using your daughter and his son to get your way and that you are staying w/him for his money.

I was married to an alchololic and I divorced him.  So I don't have a lot of sympathy for drunks, but you obviously think of noone but yourself.  His counselors have probably been telling him to leave you since you called and yelled at him in rehab.  If you truly wanted to make this marriage work, you would at least show him enough respect to not try and turn his son against him.

I have been reading your posts for months and you are truly one of the most self-centered people I have ever come across.

When I am in terrible pain from RA, I try to remember that the people I lash out at in frustration are the ones that do their best to try and handle the situation we all live in.  You cannot scream and berate them for never doing enough if you expect them to be there for you.

I am sorry in advance to the folks on this board that I may have offended by being so frank, but this last post was just way over the line.  I was very upset at the way you treat both your daughter and Colton.  It is sooooo unfair of you to put them in the middle of your problem, and I cannot stand to see parents do that to their children.  Colton has been through so much in his young life, your behaviour is not helping him.

I hope this can shock you into seeing the light.  Finally, someone that stands up and says "I don't support what you are doing."

Frankly, you should blame yourself.



Edited by crispy on 08 December 2006 at 11:03pm
arriscolwell
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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:37pm | IP Logged

The posts that Roxy leaves on this board are only half the story. It is very rude of you to assume that you know the entire situation. While she is very sweet to pour her heart out to us, you have to understand that doesn't mean she tells this board EVERYTHING. If for YOU leaving your husband was the best thing, that's great. But for you to TELL SOMEONE ELSE to do it, is very very VERY presumptuous and mean. Not all alcoholics are going to behave the same. Not all people with RA are going to behave the same.

You speak of "drunks having feelings" and while I do not disagree with you, ROXY HAS FEELINGS TOO. This disease has devistated her and is a HUGE adjustment for her, and drunk or not, that is something Brett has GOT to help her with, or there is simply no relationship. For you to say that SHE needs to stop being self centered is disgusting. After all that she has done FOR him, to help him, and he REJECTED IT. She is bearing her soul to him, and you say that she is SELF CENTERED? How dare you.

And I will be the FIRST person to tell you that Roxy and I have had our moments, and honestly we don't always get along. She drives me crazy sometimes and I think she makes some...odd...decisions but NEVER, NEVER have I thought that she was self centered or ANY of the things that you have accused her of.  Roxy is still a beautiful person who is stuggling VERY hard with far too many issues at one time. If anything at times I have said that she was too forgiving, and too nice.

You did not stand up and say "I don't support what you're doing" You my friend stood up and said "You are a terrible person" and then you quickly stabed that knife into Roxy's back and walked away.

Shame, shame on you.

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lorrie
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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:39pm | IP Logged

Roxy,

I agree with Cheese and Hillhoney - get yourself some good advice - fast!  Realise money to pay for the advice might be hard to come by - any hope of tapping into help from a social service organisation or gov t. social service dept?   Lifeline in Australia has a section that gives help on managing finances.



Edited by lorrie on 08 December 2006 at 10:43pm
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RASara82
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Hillhoney
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roxy
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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 11:16pm | IP Logged

Crispy,  You need to know me to tear into me like that.  I have been VERY supportive of Brett.  I go to his AA meetings, ask that there be no alcohol at family gatherings, do not drink in front of him, and he turns his son against him.  Colton told his Dad, he will not live with him if I stay with him and he is drinking.  Yes, I did lose it when I was flaring and he called but do you know this is the third rehab I have gone through Brett.  I have hardly spoken a harsh word with Brett.  I have dealt with drunks in my career and I know there is no point to engage.  I love Brett with all my heart and he knows it.  He tells me he knows it.  He also tells me I am good to him.   Everyone I know says Brett will go on a drunk and kill himself if I leave him.  Yes, I worry about money.  I am disabled, I have a disabled daughter and a sixteen year old son.  You just have no idea of the whole picture.  If Brett got sober and treated me with half the respect I give him, I would happily spend the rest of my life with him.

PS  I don't Lash out at people when I flare, I come here and pour my heart out.



Edited by roxy on 08 December 2006 at 11:24pm
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arriscolwell
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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 11:20pm | IP Logged

I apologize for getting so worked up so fast...though I still stand by my beliefs in the situation. It frustrates me that this board is not moderated because I feel that this is something that was innapropriate for a post. If something like this were to occur on RA Sushi, it will be handled differently.

Roxy, you are such a strong woman.

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roxy
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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 11:25pm | IP Logged

PSS  Katie, I thought we ALWAYS GOT ALONG
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arriscolwell
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joey2
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Posted: 08 December 2006 at 11:33pm | IP Logged

arriscolwell wrote:

I apologize for getting so worked up so fast...though I still stand by my beliefs in the situation. It frustrates me that this board is not moderated because I feel that this is something that was innapropriate for a post. If something like this were to occur on RA Sushi, it will be handled differently.

Roxy, you are such a strong woman.

Forums are for opinions and crispy expressed hers. What do you expect to get in return when you spill your guts on an open forum? Some things just should not be said in public. How is everyone supposed to know the whole story? From the outside it does look like the whole story because everything is on here, every little detail.

If it was a moderated forum would you have deleted crispy's post? If so that is one sided, controlling and sad.

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Crispy, since I'm in this I feel the need to speak up. I knew Roxy only half as well as I know her now. She had me hook line and sinker at the time. So that was how I felt. Now, having lived and learned a little more, I see what was really going on the whole time. I'm sorry that this seemed to have hurt you so much. Maybe if you had made it clear in your post that you had been watching Roxy do this for the past 2 years, the outcome would have been different. But at the time of your posting, she still had a lot of us fooled. I didn't know her as well as I do now. And regardless, there is one thing in life that I just don't think anyone has any right to advise someone else on, and that subject is divorce. So I still stand beside my opinion that it was never anyones place to tell Roxy to leave Brett. I think only in the extreme case that someone's life is directly in danger does anyone have the right to speak up. But that's just me. I, possibly, see marriage in a different light than you do? But anyway, I dunno. I guess I'm really apologizing to you for the fact that I was fooled by her, and it resulted in your hurt feelings. That just sucks all the way around the board. However, like I said, the base of the topic - someone telling someone else to leave their husband - still crawls under my skin. But I think that's just due to my personal views. Does that make sense?

Thanks for the apology.  I was really upset about her using the children as a weapon between the two of them.  I guess I didn't make myself clear, so for that I am sorry.

When I read the post about the kids, it just burned me up and I should have thought it through more before I posted, but anyway, it was really hard to be ganged up on when I knew how this just goes on and on.

Anyway, thanks for the sort of apology........haha.  Oh and have a great time at the concert.LoL I will. I know how certain topics can really burn people up. I know I have my cinchers too, everyone does. I've probably flown off the handle over one or two things on here that just rubbed me the wrong way. It's human, right?
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